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02-22-2009, 11:10 AM
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NJ/Kings......NJ/Tor

Devils need a top puck moving defenseman(pp qb)and I still think they are a top 6 forward away from contending. I would love to see guys like Kubina and Arnott on the team but let's face it they are going to cost an arm and a leg, and NJ is already really low in prospect depth. There is also a cap issue as well and there isn't much room for guys like Kubina and Arnott. One yes.

Antropov Kubina to NJ for , PAndolfo(dump),Clarkson, Halischuk, Greene, 2nd.

If no Kubina...then...

Toronto/NJ
Antropov for a 2nd maybe add a mid level pick or prospect.....
Before you Leaf fans say that is not enough consider this. Yes, Burke is asking for a first, but the asking price is always high at first. Secondly, Antrepov is having another good year, is a UFA and has been injury prone every year until this year. I don't think he is worth more than a 2nd.


NJ/LAK
Pandolfo(2.5) for Priessing(2.75). Both signed until after next year and both players could use a change of scenery. Both have been healthy scratches.


PArise-Zajac-Langenbrunner
Elias-Antropov-Gionta/Zubrus
Rolston-MAdden-Zubrus/Gionta
Rupp-Holik-Shanahan

Martin-Oduya
Salvador-Kubina
White-Mottau
Salmella, Leach....

I honestly don't know what kind of cap space the Devils are saving with Rolston and Brodeurs injuries. Anyone know?
Thoughts..

PP1
Parise, Zajac, Elias, LAngenbrunner, Kubina
pp2
Gionta, Antropov, Shanahan, Rolston, Martin

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02-22-2009, 11:11 AM
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Toronto declines. Not sure bout my Kings though....

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02-22-2009, 11:13 AM
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whats the point of the LA one?

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02-22-2009, 11:16 AM
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Toronto could get a similar package for Kubina on his own. No way they do this.

NJ 2nd will be late, so there's no chance they trade Antropov straight up for it. It would depend on the prospect you throw in.

Edit: Missed Halischuk in the offer, so it isn't as bad as I thought. Still, we'd want your 1st round pick in any deal involving both of these guys.

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02-22-2009, 11:16 AM
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whats the point of the LA one?
If we don't get Kubina...Not too many other sellers that have other players available at reasonable $ and picks......

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02-22-2009, 11:17 AM
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Toronto says no.

Kubina = 2nd and prospect

Antropov= 1st i

Kubina for Clarkson/2nd

Antropov for a 1st or Tedenby

Kaberle for Clarskon/Corentte+1st+Tedenby

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Not sure about the kings, and NO for the Toronto trade.

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02-22-2009, 11:22 AM
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Toronto says no.

Kubina = 2nd and prospect

Antropov= 1st i

Kubina for Clarkson/2nd

Antropov for a 1st or Tedenby

Kaberle for Clarskon/Corentte+1st+Tedenby
Kubina's value....Yes, that is fair. BUt, Antropov is not going to ge you a guy like Tedenby. Burke is asking for a 1st for Antropov. Chances are he will probably get a 2nd...

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Kubina's value....Yes, that is fair. BUt, Antropov is not going to ge you a guy like Tedenby. Burke is asking for a 1st for Antropov. Chances are he will probably get a 2nd...
Not to sound like a broken record, but if Schneider can get a 2nd two weeks before the deadline, Antropov can get a late 1st, or a 2nd + prospect.

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02-22-2009, 11:28 AM
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Not to sound like a broken record, but if Schneider can get a 2nd two weeks before the deadline, Antropov can get a late 1st, or a 2nd + prospect.
I agree with that. 2nd and a mid level prospect...

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Kubina AND Antropov without including a 1st rounder? Seems too good to be true...

What Burke gets for Antropov at the deadline isn't really going to be about "what he's worth", its going to be about "what will other GM's give up to get him". Looking at the first two trades so far, I would be VERY surprised if Antropov was traded for less than a 1st. If Schneider can get a 2nd and Campoli and Comrie can get a 1st and Deaner, Antropov should get a 1st.

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02-22-2009, 11:31 AM
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I agree with that. 2nd and a mid level prospect...
2nd and prospect (depending on what you think a "mid level prospect" is) = 1st rounder

That being said, prices go up at the deadline... not down.

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I think the Kings would rather have a pick or a defensive prospect rather than an aging forward in Pandolfo.

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Preissing isn't a healthy scratch. and we don't have room for another forward unless Calder/Armstrong is/are getting moved.

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02-22-2009, 12:04 PM
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Preissing isn't a healthy scratch. and we don't have room for another forward unless Calder/Armstrong is/are getting moved.
Maybe not right now, but he has been for a lot of the season...

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I think the Kings would rather have a pick or a defensive prospect rather than an aging forward in Pandolfo.
Pressing has been a healthy scratch a lot of the season. Don't expect anything really.... If anything it would be Pandolfo and a fifth.

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I'd drive Preissing to the airport for this one. Pandolfo has (winning) experience that the Kings could use on the 4th line. FWIW, Preissing has VERTIGO.

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Leafs reject...if Comrie and Campoli can get McCammond and a 1st then we surely can get a 1st for Nik, who's played better than both combined this year.

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02-22-2009, 12:43 PM
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Kubina's value....Yes, that is fair. BUt, Antropov is not going to ge you a guy like Tedenby. Burke is asking for a 1st for Antropov. Chances are he will probably get a 2nd...
Point being, if a team was not willing to give up thier first this year I could see Burke asking for a top prospect instead of. Not saying he would get it mind you. I'm actually on the resigning Antropov bandwagon.

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I'd do Pandolfo for Preissing in a heartbeat.

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Although Pandolfo for Preissing may sound like a fair deal, I think Preissing has a higher ceiling.

Besides, there's no sense in trading for a guy who will most likely be a healthy scratch.

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Counter offer:

Boyd Devereaux(throw in?)
Tomas Kaberle
Lee Stempniak

for
1st, 2nd
Matt Halischuk, Mattias Tedenby, David Clarkson
Jay Pandolfo


Pavel Kubina
Nik Antropov

for
Matt Halischuk, David Clarkson
1st, 3rd
Jay Pandolfo

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No from Toronto.

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02-22-2009, 02:28 PM
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Although Pandolfo for Preissing may sound like a fair deal, I think Preissing has a higher ceiling.
Ceiling??? The guy is in his prime and still can't keep a roster spot on the Kings.

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Besides, there's no sense in trading for a guy who will most likely be a healthy scratch.
Pandolfo wouldn't be a healthy scratch, John Zeiler or Ivanans would be a healthy scratch.

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Preissing for Pandolfo? Most certainly!

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