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02-23-2009, 02:28 PM
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Which is why he left money on the table?
How do you figure that? Sundin signed for a pro-rated $10 million deal that was always on the table. Nobody offered more than that and the Rangers couldn't clear any space at all for Sundin to even try and take less money.

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02-23-2009, 02:32 PM
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How do you figure that? Sundin signed for a pro-rated $10 million deal that was always on the table. Nobody offered more than that and the Rangers couldn't clear any space at all for Sundin to even try and take less money.
http://www.vancouversun.com/Sports/S...991/story.html

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Sundin is so eager to help the Canucks win, he accepted a deal for less than the $10 million Vancouver had originally offered, allowing the team to save enough money under the salary cap to add another impact player this season.

Neither side would confirm that Sundin’s salary is the $9 million range, but player agent J.P. Barry conceded his client voluntarily accepted less than the $10 million Canuck general manager Mike Gillis pitched per season when NHL free agency opened on July 1.

“We left some money on the table so Vancouver could pursue other players,” Barry said. “That’s been part of the discussion. The way they’ve managed the cap, they feel they can go out and acquire another top-end player.”
His contract actually pro-rates to $8.6 million. Still a ton of money, but he did leave some for the Canucks to use at the deadline. Instead of minimal to no space, the Canucks now have around $2.5 million, which prorates to a $6 or $7 million player.

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His contract actually pro-rates to $8.6 million. Still a ton of money, but he did leave some for the Canucks to use at the deadline. Instead of minimal to no space, the Canucks now have around $2.5 million, which prorates to a $6 or $7 million player.
Sundin is Canuck. Move on, especially you.

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02-23-2009, 02:42 PM
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His contract actually pro-rates to $8.6 million. Still a ton of money, but he did leave some for the Canucks to use at the deadline. Instead of minimal to no space, the Canucks now have around $2.5 million, which prorates to a $6 or $7 million player.
My point is, Sundin didn't accept less money to sign in Vancouver. Vancouver was completing against themselves once the season started and teams spent close to the Cap to get ready for the season. Gainey had been trying to get Schneider since November but couldn't get a fit until now so there's no way the Rangers would find an early taker for an insane contract like Redden, Rozsival, Gomez or Drury to sign Sundin.

With the 3rd highest pro-rated salary in the NHL, Sundin certainly didn't take less to sign in Vancouver. Throw in 100k and he'd be making Crosby money

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02-23-2009, 02:49 PM
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Keep in mind this is the same Steve Simmons who was convinced that Mats Sundin's hip injury was 'Mogilny-like' and 'career threatening.'

He rates up there with Marty York in terms of credibility.

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Keep in mind this is the same Steve Simmons who was convinced that Mats Sundin's hip injury was 'Mogilny-like' and 'career threatening.'

He rates up there with Marty York in terms of credibility.

Agreed. The story is BS. My favorite part:

"One more Sundin truth: His agent contacted the Rangers and Montreal in a last-ditch effort to avoid signing in Vancouver. When neither responded, he moved West ..."

Gainey moved on after July 1st and by the end of the summer so did everyone but Vancouver. Who else could take on the 3rd highest salary (pro-rated) in the league as early as December? Who could move a contract to free up that kind of cap space as early as December? Last ditch effort? Heh.

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********,Sundin would have never signed in Montreal and Gainey knew and went out and signed Lang before the season even started

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As a Canucks fan I can easily say I don't give an iota of any sort of caring about whether Vancouver was Mats 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or 29th choice. For a franchise that has historically had issues luring marquee free agents to sign with them (Messier excluded obviously...and we all know how that went) it makes little to no difference to me whether Mats ended up here because he truly wanted Vancouver over say, New York or Montreal, or whether it was Vancouver by default. As a Canucks fan, all that matters to me is that he's in blue and green. Period.

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I doubt most Hab fans really care at this point, there's enough to worry about on the ice right now.

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They are just trying to save face.. Too late Mat's Enjoy Vancouver

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I'm a fan of Vancouver and Montreal .. and I wish New York had of responded.

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While quite possibly true.... again, even if it wasn't, he'd say that. Doesn't prove much.

Ever heard a player sign and say "I wanted to go here and there, but christ, the cap is annoying... so Vancouver it is!"
Steve Simmons is an idiot. If he spoke French, he'd be a perfect candidate for a job at La Presse.

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Agreed. The story is BS. My favorite part:

"One more Sundin truth: His agent contacted the Rangers and Montreal in a last-ditch effort to avoid signing in Vancouver. When neither responded, he moved West ..."

Gainey moved on after July 1st and by the end of the summer so did everyone but Vancouver. Who else could take on the 3rd highest salary (pro-rated) in the league as early as December? Who could move a contract to free up that kind of cap space as early as December? Last ditch effort? Heh.
Sundin was probably looking to take less, but not the 1.5 to 2 million he'd be looking at out east.

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Sundin will utlimatly fail and Iginla will utimatly win the west. Sundin is a loser, always made the bad decisions. Good player tho.

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