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02-23-2009, 09:27 PM
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A. Kostitsyn Stats (w/ regards to pairings)

Just some Andrei Kostitsyn stats with regards to the players he was paired with. Note that I'm not trying to promote a certain trio really, and if I was, well, these stats don't really favor the trio I'd be advocating anyway. These are just a summary of some stats I think people here might be interested in. If you're interested in other stats (with regards to AKost, since he's all I've done), let me know.

Remember, these are statistics: they're just numbers, they don't take into account hot streaks, slumps, etc.

The stats shown are Andrei's stats when playing on that trio for the majority of a game. I could do other players, but it takes awhile... note that the ordering of players is LW-C-RW, and that it is sorted by points, then goals, then games played, then plus-minus.

Scoring Per Trio
A. Kostitsyn - Lang - S. Kostitsyn: 12GP, 8-5-13, Even, 31 shots
A. Kostitsyn - Plekanec - Kovalev: 26GP, 5-4-9, Even, 53 shots
Pacioretty - Plekanec - A. Kostitsyn: 2GP, 2-3-5, +2, 8 shots
A. Kostitsyn - Koivu - D'Agostini: 5GP, 2-2-4, +3, 17 shots
A. Kostitsyn - Higgins - Dandenault: 2GP, 2-0-2, +1, 5 shots
Latendresse - Plekanec - A. Kostitsyn: 2GP, 1-1-2, -2, 5 shots
A. Kostitsyn - Lapierre - S. Kostitsyn: 1GP, 1-1-2, +2, 3 shots
A. Kostitsyn - Lang - Kostopoulos: 2GP, 1-0-1, Even, 5 shots
A. Kostitsyn - Maxwell - D'Agostini: 2GP, 0-0-0, Even, 1 shot
A. Kostitsyn - Lang - Kovalev: 1GP, 0-0-0, -1, 1 shot
A. Kostitsyn - Higgins - Kostopoulos: 1GP, 0-0-0, -3, 3 shots

These show Kostitsyn's stats when paired with a specific player. Note that Andrei has (as of Feb. 21) 56 GP, 22-16-38, +2... so you can figure out the math when not playing with a player.

Scoring When Paired With...
Plekanec: 30GP, 8-8-16, Even, 66 shots
S. Kostitsyn: 13GP, 9-6-15, +2, 34 shots
Lang: 15GP, 9-5-14, -1, 37 shots
Kovalev: 27GP, 5-4-9, -1, 54 shots
Pacioretty: 2GP, 2-3-5, +2, 8 shots
D'Agostini: 7GP, 2-2-4, +3, 18 shots
Koivu: 5GP, 2-2-4, +3, 17 shots
Dandenault: 2GP, 2-0-2, +1, 5 shots
Latendresse: 2GP, 1-1-2, -2, 5 shots
Lapierre: 1GP, 1-1-2, +2, 3 shots
Kostopoulos: 3GP, 1-0-1, -3, 8 shots
Maxwell: 2GP, 0-0-0, Even, 1 shot

Enjoy (or not).

Note: The information here was provided by both NHL.com and this website:
http://www.cs.unb.ca/~mwf/habs/


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So, he has 2 goals when playing two games with Dandenault.

Those two should always be on the same line.

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For all your statistical needs of this nature:

Here: http://www.cs.unb.ca/~mwf/habs/

The most interesting stat being, our most productive defensive pairing on the PP is Markov... and A. Kost. hehe.

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Yeah, it's what I used for this, and the Kovalev-Koivu stats from '05-'06.

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I'm sending this to Carbo.

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Morale of the thread?

Recall Sergei and invest in a bionic leg for Lang!


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A. Kostitsyn - Plekanec - Kovalev: 26GP, 5-4-9, Even





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And if I am not mistaken, in those 26 games with plek and kovy where he scored 5 goals. 3 were in 1 game vs pitts.

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5 points in 2 games with Pacioretty.
9 points in 26 games with Kovalev.

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is there some possible way for carbo to read it....im serious the numbers don't lie

andrei-pleks-kovi....should never ever play together again
andrei-koivu-dags...on the other hand are gr8 TOGETHER

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it's a no brainer who he should be playing with and who he should not... i guess it is easier to see from the comfort of our couches

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He looks best on RW with Pleks and the numbers prove it.

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is there anybody who can send this to habs i/o or eric engels on hockeybuzz or somebody who can make people see this.

i really want people to fully comprehend the the andre pleks kovi like does not work and for carbo to stop trying to force it

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So...

9 pts in 27 games with Kovalev (26 with Plekanec, 1 with Lang)
29 pts in 29 games away from Kovalev

Hmm.

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is there anybody who can send this to habs i/o or eric engels on hockeybuzz or somebody who can make people see this.

i really want people to fully comprehend the the andre pleks kovi like does not work and for carbo to stop trying to force it
As long as we are stuc with Kovalev, Carbonneau will have to use him on this line, because he don't produce anywhere else

We should stop blaming Carbo, Kovalev have becam an anchor to his line combos

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So...

9 pts in 27 games with Kovalev (26 with Plekanec, 1 with Lang)
29 pts in 29 games away from Kovalev

Hmm.
Carbonneau must be aware of this. But I think he comes from the Driving a square peg in a round hole with hard work School of coaching.


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9 pts in 27 games with Kovalev (26 with Plekanec, 1 with Lang)
29 pts in 29 games away from Kovalev

Hmm.
Jeebus.

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He looks best on RW with Pleks and the numbers prove it.
Hmm... gotta check that site to see if MaxPac - Pleks - A.Kost ever saw the light of day...

edit: indeed, they have (and I watched those games... haha, not a morning person, so the memory...). 2nd highest productivity (rate) on the PP among lineups put out there. Can't find anything about their even strength time together, though... guess they were only really together 2 and 3 games ago, but still. One of those games was the Pittsburgh game in which A.Kost and Pleks got 3 points each, MaxPac with 1, playing most of the game together. I would have stuck with that, but I guess Kovalev coming back, and his apparent Koivu allergy, made Carbs break up that line.


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Jeebus.
Don't worry with our luck another team will realize this.

They'll also realize that the 20 or so wingers that have as many goals did it with more shifts and more time on the ice (sometimes ridiculously alot more) than him.

They'll also realize that he got his goals by never playing in a position to net an empty netter, by having started playing on 5 on 3s very late in the season and by playing almost the whole season on his off wing, and 26 games with a guy that never passes and doesn't forecheck aggressively.


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Hmm... gotta check that site to see if MaxPac - Pleks - A.Kost ever saw the light of day...
Yup.

Pacioretty - Plekanec - A. Kostitsyn: 2GP, 2-3-5, +2

The specific game dates were February 18th and 19th, by the way, where they looked awesome together. These were the two games before Kovalev's return.

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Yup.

Pacioretty - Plekanec - A. Kostitsyn: 2GP, 2-3-5, +2

The specific game dates were February 18th and 19th, by the way, where they looked awesome together. These were the two games before Kovalev's return.
After this line got dismantled... I gave up hope on Carbonneau ever getting the line combinations right

the day we see Tanguay - Koivu - A. Kost, I'll fall off my chair

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After this line got dismantled... I gave up hope on Carbonneau ever getting the line combinations right

the day we see Tanguay - Koivu - A. Kost, I'll fall off my chair
he was too busy being obliged to accomodate our mighty lord Kovalev

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After this line got dismantled... I gave up hope on Carbonneau ever getting the line combinations right

the day we see Tanguay - Koivu - A. Kost, I'll fall off my chair
Brain Teasing Quiz

Top lines that have been successful this season

1-Pacioretty Plex AKost
2-AKost Koivu D'Agostini
3-AKost Lang SKost

The regular lines that have never worked this season

1-AKost Plex Kovalev

So, our top line is:.....wrong....wrong again...wrong...It's the AKost Plex Kovalev line!!!!!

On every single poll on this board, I've given my support for Carbonneau. On this issue, I think he's making a terrible mistake.

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Completely agree, AKost is producing more when he is away from Kovy (he looked great with Koivu and Dags ).

Dags/ Tanguay when hes back - Koivu - AKost

MaxPac - Plex - Kovy

Is it really that complicated ??

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