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Who should be ahead on the depth chart: Kovalev or Kostitsyn?

View Poll Results: Who should be ahead on the depth chart?
Alex Kovalev 28 26.92%
Andrei Kostitsyn 76 73.08%
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02-25-2009, 07:00 PM
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Stop exaggerating, you look bad doing so.
Were they not the hottest line early in the season?..Yes.
Was Plek's line turning it up?..No.
Was Lappy's line doing good?..No.

Koivu/Tang/Lats was our only hot line, don't blame me for your poor memory.

Don't respond to my posts with 1 liners, you look bad doing so.

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02-25-2009, 07:08 PM
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He's also our leading goal scorer and only 5pts behind Kovy while playing 4min less per game than him.
The fact that Kovy plays more minutes is actually an edge for him over Kostitsyn, because that extra time is mainly because he kills penalties. You are kinda implying there that Kovy's extra points are because he plays more.. not the case.

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02-25-2009, 07:11 PM
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Well, I would honestly go with Kostitsyn. Both are inconsistent, but at least Kostitsyn is young enough to break out of his lazy habits. Kovalev, well, there's only 1 million references to him as an enigma for a reason.

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02-25-2009, 07:17 PM
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The fact that Kovy plays more minutes is actually an edge for him over Kostitsyn, because that extra time is mainly because he kills penalties. You are kinda implying there that Kovy's extra points are because he plays more.. not the case.
Substracting PK time:
Kovalev leads TOI for the season, Shifts for the season, TOI per game, shifts per game.

Total time on Ice (Only Even Strength and PP):
Kovalev: 1051 minutes
Kostitsyn: 886 minutes

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02-25-2009, 07:23 PM
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I don't think he should be ahead of Kovalev on the depth charts but the gap should be closed except Carbo refuses to let Akosts loose or give him the extra leash that he gives Kovy.

Akosts needs to get the chance to be a focus. He has the talent and sadly I think its being wasted by Guy.

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02-25-2009, 07:41 PM
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The results of this poll are staggering.

And it says so much about the Montreal Canadiens fans at HF Boards.

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02-25-2009, 07:44 PM
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The results of this poll are staggering.

And it says so much about the Montreal Canadiens fans at HF Boards.
I think my first post went like this, thanks for understanding, it's mind-boggling isn't it?

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Dude, can you read? I just said that "Koivu SAID". Go blame Koivu if you don't agree, don't say that to me.

So who do you vouch for? PK Subban?
Uh no, Kovalev.

as for PK, he's my chosen avatar that goes along with my user name. Before PK it was Andrei, and before Andrei it was Ryder.

also I've had Subban for well over a year and a half now, so no, not a bandwagoner because of the WJC.


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02-25-2009, 07:52 PM
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Kovalev is our best player now, there's no reason why akost should be ahead of him. When playoff time starts, who would you rather bet on? One bad season by Kovalev doesn't mean squat. It has happened to him his whole life but he does play better in the playoffs. Its not like Akost is on route to 50 goals or point per game anyways.

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The results of this poll are staggering.

And it says so much about the Montreal Canadiens fans at HF Boards.
This man is right. Its a reflection of how unprofessional and ignorant Montreal media has become.


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This man is right. Its a reflection of how unprofessional and ignorant Montreal media has become.
Some in the media don't like Kovalev but others like him alot. He's generally treated with respect. There's alot less noise around Kostitsyn (his mob ties are an exception).

As for the fans in Montreal (in the streets or on French language open-line shows), Kovalev is wildly more popular than Kostitsyn. It's not even close.


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02-25-2009, 08:16 PM
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Hey, i agree that Kostitsyn should be ahead of Kovalev but he doesn't compete hard enough to get there. Ever since he has entered the NHL, he has gotten better but he is still lacking in emotion and fire. When he is on fire he is hard to stop or contain. He can play like ovechkin in spurts but can't keep it up or skate hard for long. I am waiting for him to take his game to the next level but i fear like most here that that won't happen till he is on the right side with a top center. He just doesn't bring it enough consistently to produce on his own at a high pace like a top winger should.

I like AK46 and hope he keeps getting better cause we have high expectations for him. He has all the tools to be a superstar, he just needs to put it together. Maybe he needs a coach like Torts in NYR he whipped Vinnie into a superstar. I'm not saying i want carbo fired LOL, im just saying. With the Media frenzy, Kost doesn't really need any more pressure from Carbo right now.

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02-25-2009, 09:23 PM
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Kostitsyn, not even close.

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Oh holy **** people, are you kidding me with this poll?

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Oh holy **** people, are you kidding me with this poll?
Why? Because it badly exposes the disillusion of a few?

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02-25-2009, 10:31 PM
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Without Kovalev the Habs would be unable to pull a major upset in the playoffs this season. It would be possible to do so without AKost.

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Without Kovalev the Habs would be unable to pull a major upset in the playoffs this season. It would be possible to do so without AKost.
I strongly disagree.

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02-26-2009, 01:00 AM
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Kostitsyn is better than Kovalev.
Today, I'd choose him over Kovalev.

Make him the go-to guy and he'll become an impactful player for us. I'm expecting this to happen next year.

Right now, Kovalev is the ''leader'' so players look up to him, and see him as the difference maker. This doesn't mean that Kostitsyn can't be that player. I just feel he's playing in Kovy's shadow a bit.

im very afraid that carbo will find a way to ruin that

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02-26-2009, 01:36 AM
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The results so far are pretty interesting (read: amusing). I think Kovalev should be considered ahead on the depth chart, but behind Kosty in importance to the franchise. Kovalev could leave next year, and life would go on, but Kosty is an important building block for this team. Impact and importance sort of diverge in this situation.

Still, Kosty should be considered "#2" on the RW, although line chemistry/combos and special teams situations etc will actually dictate who gets the most ice time.

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02-26-2009, 10:26 AM
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Questions were bound to be asked... A serious argument can be made that Kovalev's role's on life support right now. Despite gilded first line RW conditions, his stats are very underwhelming.

Maybe he started on the wrong foot (he missed an important part of training camp), the fact he's never taken off is worrisome. If It was only selfishness or laziness, I'd be less worried, but the guy's an aging 36 year old vet who seems to have lost a step (go and look at videos from 3 seasons ago).

He doesn't make his teammates more productive, Kostitsyn does. Kovalev has less than half Kostitsyn's body check! He has less blocked shots than Kostityn despite playing on the PK!!! Seriously WTF?!? Every way you look at it, the situation looks embarrassing.


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