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02-26-2009, 04:21 AM
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Don't waste so much time on typing crap, we don't wanna waste our time reading unless you have something to say, rather then something not to say. The fact that you used the line "he plays with Malkin, and Crosby" shows all there needs to be to even bother reading. Your typical HF response "he is playing with Crosby", or "Malkin", therefore his stats are overrated.
Maybe you should take a look in the mirror, if all of your 11,000+ posts are like this, your pretty much wasting everyone elses time. At least I try to make a point, before just completely, ripping somebody.

I don't think too much of your general sports knowledge, if you can't even admit that playing with superstar players doesn't help other players. Thats just a poor comment, all superstar players in all sports leagues make the players around them better. I think Whitney is a good d man, I just think that his stats are inflated and he is closer to a 40pts player to a 50+ pts player. Thats it.

You need to get off your high horse, and stop thinking that all us HF posters are just ripping players who play with Crosby and Malkin. I'm sure people have made similar comments about players playing with Ovechkin. It happens and it is a reality.

Back on terms of this thread this trade is still awful for the Avalanche. Whitney for Wolski is a basic wash talent wise. The problem is Stewart is worth more than some **** picks, thats the thing that most Avs fans, along with pretty much everyone outside Pittsburgh, think the Avs get fleeced, if you take Stewart out of the trade I think it would be most fair for all the teams involved.

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02-26-2009, 04:37 AM
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You can't say that Whits goes from 59 points to 40 because of Sid and Geno. Do you really thing that they added 19 points to his season?

Also, you make it sound like the Avs are a bunch of AHLers. I have a feeling that Smyth, Hejduk and Stastny might be able to 'give' Whits 1 or 2 points in a year.


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02-26-2009, 04:57 AM
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3 way is a good way of putting it, because the Avs get ****ed.

I wouldn't trade Wolski for Whitney, and I sure as hell wouldn't trade Stewart and a 5th for a 3rd and 4th. Additionally, acquiring Whitney would be a terrible move for the Avalanche unless they make other deals. They already have 5 D making over $3 million next year and they certainly don't need to make that 6. I'm not saying that Whitney is a bad player but his contract wouldn't be all that great for the Avs to pick up. If we are trading Wolski and Stewart, it needs to be for a starting goalie or possibly a great shut-down D.

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02-26-2009, 05:30 AM
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So Pit gives Whitney, Staal, Kennedy, Satan, 3rd and acquires Wojtek Wolski, Chris Stewart, Alexander Frolov, LA's 2nd round pick and you think this is a fair trade? WOW.

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02-26-2009, 05:51 AM
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whitney has been a minus player every year except his one magical year, and yes his stats are inflated by playing on that pens PP, put liles in his spot, most likely same point totals.
this is obviously some pens fanboy's wet dream, lets move on.

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02-26-2009, 06:46 AM
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This is based off of something that is likely not legit, but it makes for a halfway interesting proposal...to me, it's a little much for the Pens, but is this salvageable...?


Los Angeles acquires: Jordan Staal, Tyler Kennedy, Miroslav Satan, COL's 5th round pick

Colorado acquires: Ryan Whitney, PIT's 3rd round pick, LA's 4th round pick

Pittsburgh acquires: Wojtek Wolski, Chris Stewart, Alexander Frolov, LA's 2nd round pick


To break it down a bit...
LA gives: Frolov, 2nd, 4th
Col gives: Wolski, Stewart, 5th
Pit gives: Whitney, Staal, Kennedy, Satan, 3rd


Ideally, I wouldn't want the Pens to give up Kennedy...

Carve it up...
I do not want to be rude but for the Avs, oufff!!!!

I know you are a Hockey's Future Staff but with that trade proposal you lost a lot of credibility.

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02-26-2009, 07:38 AM
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02-26-2009, 08:12 AM
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I do not want to be rude but for the Avs, oufff!!!!

I know you are a Hockey's Future Staff but with that trade proposal you lost a lot of credibility.
It wasn't his...but one someone probably made up at letsgopens.com...and Ecklund gave the e4 to it...

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02-26-2009, 09:34 AM
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I know you are a Hockey's Future Staff but with that trade proposal you lost a lot of credibility.
Read the post. It helps to make sense of things. Use this newfound ability throughout your life.

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02-26-2009, 10:08 AM
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In reply to the original proposal, the Avs do come out the worst. Perhaps if the Pens pick they acquire was the Pens 1st rather than the 3rd it would look a little better. Or maybe add someone like Vitale or Jeffrey to the original deal if the Avs happen to covet a different prospect.

Out of curiosity, do 3 day deals happen very often? lol

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02-26-2009, 10:27 AM
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What I find really hilarious is the fact that the Avs give up a pick as well. As if trading away Wolski AND Stewart were not enough in the first place...

Replace Whitney with Fluery and this deal begins to make some sense.

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02-26-2009, 11:36 AM
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It wasn't his...but one someone probably made up at letsgopens.com...and Ecklund gave the e4 to it...
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Thanks for the support, I know that reading is overrated but geez...

I think I asked what could be done to salvage this proposal, but perhaps it's too far off to be saved...?

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02-26-2009, 12:39 PM
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So Wolski+Stewart+Frolov+2nd>Kunitz+Tangradi=this rumor being horse****.

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02-26-2009, 09:28 PM
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Thanks for the support, I know that reading is overrated but geez...

I think I asked what could be done to salvage this proposal, but perhaps it's too far off to be saved...?
Especially with Whitney in Anaheim...

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You're kidding, right?
Offensively at least... will Staal put up a 70 point season?

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