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02-27-2009, 11:41 AM
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I like Vaanenen. He's not the best defensemen in the NHL but he's probably one of the best for that 6th/7th role.

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02-27-2009, 11:43 AM
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Real good waiver pickup, looking at his stats, in any other situation he wouldnt' have been placed on waivers. He'll be a real solid bottom pairing defenseman. I think we will see Gillis trade a defenseman for to improve the 3rd line.

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02-27-2009, 11:44 AM
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I didn't realize he was 28 - thought he was older. Depending on how he plays I could see Gillis viewing this as a longer-term depth solution on the blue line.

I agree it was a steal on waivers. Had Philly not had the Briere-crunch it seems they could have turned this guy into a 2nd or 3rd rounder at the deadline.

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I like Vaanenen. He's not the best defensemen in the NHL
Actually, he is. We just don't know it yet.

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02-27-2009, 11:50 AM
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This is just the Canucks acquiring depth for the playoffs. He'll probably bump O'Brien, Davison or Nycholat for the time being. But I don't think we will see any of our other depth defenders moved out.

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02-27-2009, 11:56 AM
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Great move. I wouldn't mind seeing him as the #6 on the team.

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Looks like a good pickup. I'd say he'd be our 6th D over SOB.

Mitchell
Ohlund
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Salo
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02-27-2009, 11:57 AM
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Defensemen like Vaananen usually go for mid-round picks around the deadline so this is awesome to get him for free. If they can sneak Nycholat down to Manitoba through waivers the Canucks will be pretty set for depth. It's nice to know that the Canucks can survive one injury and not have to insert Davison/Nycholat in the lineup and instead still roll with 6 competent NHL defenders who are all capable of logging 15+ minutes per game.

As for Vaananen, just looking at the numbers he's been quite good for Philly. Of their regular defensemen he's been on the ice for the fewest GA/minute.

I actually sort of hoped they'd pick up Metropolit too but I didn't think that Vaananen would even make it to the Canucks on the waiver list.

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good pick up

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In other good news, Vaananen is a +25 in 476 career NHL games, and despite apparently being a physical defensive defenseman has only logged 482 PIMs in that many games. Looks like Mitchell-lite to me.

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02-27-2009, 11:57 AM
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Looks like a good pickup. I'd say he'd be our 6th D over SOB.

Mitchell
Ohlund
Bieksa
Salo
Edler
Vaananen
SOB
Davison
Nycholat

Another European.....joy.

If Gillis moves out SOB for this guy, I will turn against him. Beware.

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02-27-2009, 11:59 AM
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Looks like a good pickup. I'd say he'd be our 6th D over SOB.

Mitchell
Ohlund
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Salo
Edler
Vaananen
SOB
Davison
Nycholat
I think we see SOB and Raymond packaged for someone...

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02-27-2009, 12:00 PM
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I think we see SOB and Raymond packaged for someone...
Yes, good point. If Gillis is using this is a pre-emptive measure in order to set up the dealing of Ohlund or Salo, then I will continue to have his back.

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02-27-2009, 12:02 PM
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Another European.....joy.

If Gillis moves out SOB for this guy, I will turn against him. Beware.
Vaananen is a tough, physical defensive defenseman. He has twice as many hits and has blocked almost twice as many shots as O'Brien has in only 46 games.

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Yes, good point. If Gillis is using this is a pre-emptive measure in order to set up the dealing of Ohlund or Salo, then I will continue to have his back.
I'm sure he'll sleep better knowing that.


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02-27-2009, 12:04 PM
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Lets not get off topic

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Vaananen is a tough, physical defensive defenseman. He has twice as many hits and has blocked almost twice as many shots as O'Brien has in only 46 games.
Plus he's not a total minor penalty machine. Only 22 PIMs in 46 GP this year, and his career PIMs are also quite low. We could save ourselves from a lot of minor penalties by replacing O'Brien with this guy.

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02-27-2009, 12:05 PM
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I'm sure he'll sleep better knowing that.

Sorry, did not think I needed to add an "" to that.......but here it is for future reference.

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02-27-2009, 12:07 PM
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Plus he's not a total minor penalty machine. Only 22 PIMs in 46 GP this year, and his career PIMs are also quite low. We could save ourselves from a lot of minor penalties by replacing O'Brien with this guy.

If he is so good, why did Philly decide to get rid of him? Could they not have dealt this awesome physical shot blocking stud for at least a late round pick?

Cmon people - this is not the second coming of Bobby Orr - it's another teams cast-off. Let's curb our enthusiasm a bit - ok?

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02-27-2009, 12:09 PM
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I see him becoming a long term position with the canucks Leaving Ohlund. I personally think SOB can be a 5th dmen for us especially during the period of games where he didn't take a penalty.
Bieksa
Mitchell
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Salo
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02-27-2009, 12:10 PM
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even if there is no package for SOB (i dont think there is)

aquiring a 7th D man who can easily fit into our 6, is just saying to our d-men:

"If you're gonna dog it now, we got plenty a guys who're ready to take your place. let's see some grit and make this a good run."

i dont see anything wrong with this pickup - february is a tough month for NHLers, lets show some determination

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02-27-2009, 12:14 PM
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If he is so good, why did Philly decide to get rid of him? Could they not have dealt this awesome physical shot blocking stud for at least a late round pick?

Cmon people - this is not the second coming of Bobby Orr - it's another teams cast-off. Let's curb our enthusiasm a bit - ok?
Nah, I still like the pick-up that much.

The fact is a lot of Philly fans are not overly thrilled with losing Vaananen. He played quite a few games on their top pairing beside Timonen, and though he's struggled recently his career numbers indicate he's a very capable NHL defenseman. Had there not been a cap-crunch for the Flyers he'd have been kept, and could likely have garnered a mid-round pick at the deadline. Picking up a good depth defenseman for nothing, and not having to move any assets to fill one of our needs is reason for a slight celebration in my eyes. Honestly, I wanted Vaananen, but never thought he'd fall to our waiver position.

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02-27-2009, 12:15 PM
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If he is so good, why did Philly decide to get rid of him?
If you read what the Philly fans said in the thread, then you'd know.

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02-27-2009, 12:16 PM
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Excellent pick up... Great size and Sami has someone to boast how good the
Finnish team will be next year


Ossi Väänänen
Position Defense
Shoots Left
Height 6 ft 4 in (1.93 m)
Weight 215 lb (98 kg; 15 st 5 lb)

(Born August 18, 1980 in Vantaa, Finland)

He was drafted by the Phoenix Coyotes in the 1998 NHL Entry Draft as their
second-round pick, 43rd overall.

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If he is so good, why did Philly decide to get rid of him? Could they not have dealt this awesome physical shot blocking stud for at least a late round pick?

Cmon people - this is not the second coming of Bobby Orr - it's another teams cast-off. Let's curb our enthusiasm a bit - ok?
Kunitz, Pomminville, Sullivan St. Louis, Briere.....need I go on?

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