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According to TSN, Havelid, Lehtonen, Armstrong and Hainsey are all on the market, in addition to the team's free agents (Most of which are worthless).
What would your team give up for these players?
Ron Hainsey (4 years @ $4.5M)
Kari Lehtonen (RFA)
Colby Armstrong (RFA)
Erik Christensen (RFA)
Jim Slater (RFA)
Chris Thorburn (RFA)
Niclas Havelid (UFA)
Marty Reasoner (UFA)
Eric Perrin (UFA)
I'd love to move all of these guys, but I have a feeling that nobody would want Perrin, Christensen, Slater, or Thorburn.
The Jackets would take Hainsey on Re-entry Waivers. They were looking at signing him for about 3 mil per (his actual value) until the got all that dough waived in his face by the Thrashers.
What's the value on Reasoner? 4th rounder? Canucks need a third line centre, and at least he's posting 50% in the faceoff circle. I'd also take Colby Armstrong if the price was right.
According to TSN, Havelid, Lehtonen, Armstrong and Hainsey are all on the market, in addition to the team's free agents (Most of which are worthless).
What would your team give up for these players?
Ron Hainsey (4 years @ $4.5M)
Kari Lehtonen (RFA)
Colby Armstrong (RFA)
Erik Christensen (RFA)
Jim Slater (RFA)
Chris Thorburn (RFA)
Niclas Havelid (UFA)
Marty Reasoner (UFA)
Eric Perrin (UFA)
I'd love to move all of these guys, but I have a feeling that nobody would want Perrin, Christensen, Slater, or Thorburn.
Most of the proposals here are a fair bit under what the players are actually worth. Remember: Atlanta got 2nd and 3rd round picks from the Habs for their worst defenseman not named Exelby.
I do like the idea of Nylander for Havelid, though. Nylander seems to play well with extremely skilled players (*Cough*Jagr*Cough*), and I could see him being a good center for Kovalchuk.
While I wouldn't call Colby junk...here are some scenerios to bring him back to the Pens
Best case scenario: 3rd & 4th round pick
-This would be highway robbery, but anything is possible
Most Likely: 3rd round pick, Casey Pierro-Zabotel
-I think this gives Atlanta good value for Colby in a solid pick and a nice prospect who isn't really needed in the Pens system anymore with the addition of Tangradi
Far Fetched: Goligoski for Colby, Pick
-I don't see Shero doing this, but given how many rumors are out there linking Colby back to the Pens, it is safe to say that Shero wants him back in the fold...if he wants him bad enough and Waddell holds out long enough, this might be the only way we get him.
unfortunately lux, the first 3 players on your list all need to stay here. and aside from havelid and reasoner, we'd be lucky to get a bag of pucks for the rest of em'.
^ As much as you disagree, I think Kari is a detriment to this team, and that we will never be good unless he is sent packing. If the Philly rumors are true, then Waddell MUST pull the trigger. JVR is more than any Thrashers fan would have expected Lehtonen to be worth.
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Originally Posted by IslesDude
IMO the market value would be
Hainsey - 2nd + Prospect
Reasoner - 3rd/4th
Christensen - Very late pick. Atl would be better off holding onto him and hope that he develops
Lehtonen - The JVR rumors make you think he has considerable value. Not amazing, but young and has always been pretty solid aside from injuries
Havelid - 2nd
Armstrong - At least a second. A lot of teams seem to want him
Slater- He has good energy. MAYBE a late pick.
Thorburn - Waivers
Perrin - Waivers
I see these three as being a fair bit low, considering that Schneider's worth was more than all three of those, depending on the quality of prospect for Hainsey. Schneider was Atlanta's worst defenseman not counting Exelby, so if he's worth a second and a third, then that would be the minimum for any of the others.
^ As much as you disagree, I think Kari is a detriment to this team, and that we will never be good unless he is sent packing. If the Philly rumors are true, then Waddell MUST pull the trigger. JVR is more than any Thrashers fan would have expected Lehtonen to be worth.
i understand what you're saying and i respect your opinion on it, but I think people just do not give lehtonen enough credit. he is a great goalie and if what atlanta would actually get in return for trading him is similiar to the way he is underrated on these boards (yeah, i know. terrible comparison) then we'd end up getting shafted in a deal.
I see these three as being a fair bit low, considering that Schneider's worth was more than all three of those, depending on the quality of prospect for Hainsey. Schneider was Atlanta's worst defenseman not counting Exelby, so if he's worth a second and a third, then that would be the minimum for any of the others.
2nd and a 3rd for Schneider and a conditional pick.
Schneider has more value than Havelid, because Schneider can move the puck.
Hainsey in all likelihood would bring back a 1st and a prospect.
While I wouldn't call Colby junk...here are some scenerios to bring him back to the Pens
Best case scenario: 3rd & 4th round pick
-This would be highway robbery, but anything is possible
Most Likely: 3rd round pick, Casey Pierro-Zabotel
-I think this gives Atlanta good value for Colby in a solid pick and a nice prospect who isn't really needed in the Pens system anymore with the addition of Tangradi
Far Fetched: Goligoski for Colby, Pick
-I don't see Shero doing this, but given how many rumors are out there linking Colby back to the Pens, it is safe to say that Shero wants him back in the fold...if he wants him bad enough and Waddell holds out long enough, this might be the only way we get him.
Trade all them for bags of pucks except Lehtonen and Hainsey.
Lehtonen and Hainsey are apart of our future. I dont wanna donate to the Flyers by getting robbed for JVR. Flyers want to win now and are trying to rip us off and by doing so they are almost guarenteed to go to the cup with Kari.
Flyers want to win now and are trying to rip us off and by doing so they are almost guarenteed to go to the cup with Kari.
I think you're getting the goalies mixed up. Brodeur plays for New Jersey, Luongo plays for Vancouver, and Backstrom plays for Minnesota. None of those goalies are named "Kari", and none play for Atlanta.
For the record, getting JVR for Lehtonen would be highway robbery in Atlanta's favor.
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Originally Posted by illusion856
i understand what you're saying and i respect your opinion on it, but I think people just do not give lehtonen enough credit. he is a great goalie and if what atlanta would actually get in return for trading him is similiar to the way he is underrated on these boards (yeah, i know. terrible comparison) then we'd end up getting shafted in a deal.
The biggest problem with Kari is his extreme lack of confidence, and his tendency to allow a lot of weak goals. Atlanta is not a good place at all for a goalie with no confidence.
Most of the proposals here are a fair bit under what the players are actually worth. Remember: Atlanta got 2nd and 3rd round picks from the Habs for their worst defenseman not named Exelby.
I do like the idea of Nylander for Havelid, though. Nylander seems to play well with extremely skilled players (*Cough*Jagr*Cough*), and I could see him being a good center for Kovalchuk.
Yes, please!!
Actually, Kovy worked pretty well Savard back in the day, and Nylander is in many ways similar. If you could give them a tenacious RW who could keep up and battle for pucks, it could work.
Havelid for Nylander + Jurcina + 2nd, how about that?
