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02-27-2009, 03:52 PM
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Maybe a later round draft pick at best. Klesla is a top line defenseman. Connolly is inconsistently healthy which complicates matters. Connolly is also done after this season because Buffalo isn't going to resign him more than likely. The Jackets aren't going to give up a lot to get Connolly when they could do the same to get Antropov and have a better chance of him staying healthy. The Blue Jackets have said that the Connolly deal is the more likely trade to go through at the moment so I'm assuming the trade wouldn't be much more than what is already speculated as Klesla for Connolly and possibly a late round draft pick like a 4th rounder. Why would the Jackets give up so much for a guy that more than likely is just a rental? They wouldn't...and neither would anyone else.

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02-27-2009, 03:54 PM
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Seriously?

Ottawa is all over that...
Maybe the Sens toss in an average prospect for Portland.

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02-27-2009, 03:56 PM
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Maybe a later round draft pick at best. Klesla is a top line defenseman. Connolly is inconsistently healthy which complicates matters. Connolly is also done after this season because Buffalo isn't going to resign him more than likely. The Jackets aren't going to give up a lot to get Connolly when they could do the same to get Antropov and have a better chance of him staying healthy. The Blue Jackets have said that the Connolly deal is the more likely trade to go through at the moment so I'm assuming the trade wouldn't be much more than what is already speculated as Klesla for Connolly and possibly a late round draft pick like a 4th rounder

Who exactly on the Blue Jackets has said this??? Where is the reliable source of this Connolly for Klesla business.

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02-27-2009, 03:59 PM
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Well then predicting trades is some what pointless then dont ya think?
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So you have never predicted a trade! Thats the fun part of these threads. Why not let him put some ideas down. I don't want to see you putting trade predictions up if your telling someone else its pointless.

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02-27-2009, 04:02 PM
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Who exactly on the Blue Jackets has said this??? Where is the reliable source of this Connolly for Klesla business.
According to reporters at the Columbus Dispatch the Connolly deal is the most likely deal to go through at the moment. And according to the Buffalo News the trade is likely to involve Connolly for Klesla, and any more details of the deal are obviously still be finalized if it's to happen. I would imagine the Jacket's wouldn't be willing to give up too much more, considering Klesla is a great D-man whose contract doesn't end until the end of next season, whereas Connolly might end up just being a rental because his contract would likely be too big for Columbus to resign. That's why I say at most they could add a 4th round draft pick because Columbus has two of them after Adam Foote resigned at Colorado


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02-27-2009, 04:11 PM
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According to reporters at the Columbus Dispatch the Connolly deal is the most likely deal to go through at the moment. And according to the Buffalo News the trade is likely to involve Connolly for Klesla, and any more details of the deal are obviously still be finalized if it's to happen. I would imagine the Jacket's wouldn't be willing to give up too much more, considering Klesla is a great D-man and would likely resign, whereas Connolly might end up just being a rental because his contract would likely be too big for Columbus to resign. That's why I say at most they could add a 4th round draft pick because Columbus has two of them after Adam Foote resigned at Colorado
Only way Connolly is moved is if he wants more than 3.5 mil per year. It was reported we offered his agent a contract extension last week. Based on his inability to stay healthy, I would guess that if he wanted more than 3.5 per year for 2 years.... that we wouldn't be too interested in keeping him.

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02-27-2009, 04:20 PM
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I don't see Florida getting rid of Frolik and Ellerby. Frolik is a young offensive talent which is something we desperately need, and Ellerby is possibly our next stud defenseman. JM loves the D, and also if we lose Jay we'll need to raise the next great defenseman right and try to keep him around. (Not that I think Ellerby is or will be quite as good as Jay, but I still wouldn't give him up.)

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02-27-2009, 04:23 PM
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I don't see Columbus trading Klesla for a rental. An injury prone one at that. If there is a deal on the table it is most likely a 2nd round pick and maybe a lower prospect. Klesla is more valuable to the CBJ than a rental and if he is traded it will most likely be this summer as part of a bigger deal.

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02-27-2009, 04:44 PM
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I just checked sports illustrated and there was an article about trades that make sense

"Buffalo sends Tim Connolly to Columbus for Rostislav Klesla and a third-rounder"

I think it would be more likely a 4th rounder, but this seems to be a well founded rumor that this trade will take place

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02-27-2009, 04:50 PM
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tampa hasnt had goaltending since khabibulin. now they find someone who is a legit #1 in the league, resign him and hype him as our goaltender of the future, to trade him away a year later? on top of that, he has a concussion and no timetable for return?

that would leave tampa with ramo (having a pitiful year) and a career ahler in mike mckenna?

some people only view tampa bay as this nhl community garden. your welcome to come pick the fruits as long as you leave some horse ****. surround our seeds with your manure for use to eventually bear more fruits with, thus continuing the cycle.

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02-27-2009, 05:55 PM
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tampa hasnt had goaltending since khabibulin. now they find someone who is a legit #1 in the league, resign him and hype him as our goaltender of the future, to trade him away a year later? on top of that, he has a concussion and no timetable for return?

that would leave tampa with ramo (having a pitiful year) and a career ahler in mike mckenna?

some people only view tampa bay as this nhl community garden. your welcome to come pick the fruits as long as you leave some horse ****. surround our seeds with your manure for use to eventually bear more fruits with, thus continuing the cycle.
I know, i just thought i'd throw that out there bc i saw that rumour in the hockey news....mike smith for ville leino....absolutely rediculous

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02-27-2009, 06:09 PM
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Longshot Moves: Detroit trades Jonathan Ericsson, Ville Leino and a first round pick to Tampa Bay for Jeff Halpern and Mike Smith.
No.. Just no

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02-27-2009, 06:19 PM
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Have you not listened to anything thats been said about the Panthers this year? The team has said they will look to trade him if they cant sign him before the deadline...depending if they get a good enough offer. This offer is said to have to include atleast one solid roster player coming back...so yeah.
Yes, it's known worldly, I'm not disagreeing with that. But that would make them sellers then. So which is it? They won't trade Bouwmeester if they are buyers. They would still be able to move him in the offseason before the free agency period and get a very good return...

*EDIT* Unless, of course, some teams makes an "impossible to pass up" offer at the deadline (but that seems kind of pointless to me). If I could bet on it, I'd say J-Bo is staying put until the offseason when they will get a similar return, if not bigger, because the team he goes to will already have a contract ready to sign.


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02-27-2009, 07:13 PM
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Ottawa Senators
Status: Sellers

Analysis: Team turning the ship in the right direction too late, preparing to get back in the elite next season.

Needs: #1 defenceman, young NHL-ready skilled players, draft picks

Attractive Assets (bold = very likely traded, italic = a good chance, none = longshot):
Filip Kuba, Chris Neil, Antoine Vermette, Chris Kelly, Mike Comrie*, Alexandre Picard

Possible Outcome: Nothing too drastic. Kuba for a 1st, Neil for a 2nd. *Comrie will be traded for a draft pick if a deal cannot be reached with the Senators; this is unlikely though. Vermette and Picard are not likely to be traded as well.

Longshot Moves: Ottawa trades Jason Spezza for top six forward, top four defenceman, high to middle 1st.
Agreed on almost everything, however I have my doubts Kuba will waive his NTC and that Comrie will be traded as Murray seems to be in love with him and thinks he can be re-signed. I also think your long shot may not be so much of a long shot at all, it's very possible that Murray panics and makes a deal like this minutes before midnight on Wednesday. Hold on to your hats come Wednesday sens fans.

I also think Smith can perhaps be traded as he is known for his beastly-ness in the playoff's on top of Murray wanting to dump one of our D men because we have too many...

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02-27-2009, 07:22 PM
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The assessment for Flames was rather poor as well. The last thing they would need is another defensemen like McKee when they all ready have Regher, Sarich, Vandermeer and Pardy who all play in a similar style. Klee is terrible and Clark has a pretty large cap hit for a fairly mediocre player. The Flames only real need is for a mobile top-four defensemen.

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02-27-2009, 07:52 PM
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The assessment for Flames was rather poor as well. The last thing they would need is another defensemen like McKee when they all ready have Regher, Sarich, Vandermeer and Pardy who all play in a similar style. Klee is terrible and Clark has a pretty large cap hit for a fairly mediocre player. The Flames only real need is for a mobile top-four defensemen.
That rumour was straight from the mouth of Al Strachan himself...so take it with a grain of salt i guess.

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02-27-2009, 10:56 PM
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Wheres my kings update??!?!?!?

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I don't agree with everything, but they make great reads.

Definetly going to read all the updates though

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pretty good idea, I suggest you to work your post with the comments of the fans and after, your post can be a good reference on march 4th.

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Agreed on almost everything, however I have my doubts Kuba will waive his NTC and that Comrie will be traded as Murray seems to be in love with him and thinks he can be re-signed. I also think your long shot may not be so much of a long shot at all, it's very possible that Murray panics and makes a deal like this minutes before midnight on Wednesday. Hold on to your hats come Wednesday sens fans.

I also think Smith can perhaps be traded as he is known for his beastly-ness in the playoff's on top of Murray wanting to dump one of our D men because we have too many...
Oh right, I completely forgot about Smith.

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02-27-2009, 11:04 PM
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when are u making the other teams????

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Kind of f-ing kills any credibility when pretty much evryone but Leaf fans know Bolland>Antropov.

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As for Lehtonen, this guy has been rumoured to be on the move for several years now, and nothing seems to ever get done. Many teams are after a backup and this kid has shown he can get it done at the AHL level, and still has the potential to be a solid starting goalie.
Lehtonen is already a solid starting goalie I don't think a team is going to acquire him to be a backup. With a bit more consistency (and an improving thrashers defense) and less injury woes (touch wood) he'll become a top 10 goalie (I rank him top 15 at the moment) with the potential to become an all-star.

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So you have never predicted a trade! Thats the fun part of these threads. Why not let him put some ideas down. I don't want to see you putting trade predictions up if your telling someone else its pointless.
don't think z40 was saying making predictions is pointless. IMO if you're going to make predictions, you've got to think about the salary cap. As z40 pointed out, there's no way a team that's already just about capped out can make a trade using 2 non-roster players. In Detroit's example, why would we add Smith without getting rid of ozzie or conklin? It doesn't make sense, one or the other would have to go the other way. I applaud the OP for everything up to the longshot deals.

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Dallas is not moving Neal!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes they will! . . Surrender Neal to the Pens immediatly! wahaha!

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