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02-27-2009, 10:06 PM
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People are too quick to try and trade Higgins. Without getting points, he did a lot of things to help us win tonight.

With a lot of vets maybe moving on we'll need him more next year.

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02-27-2009, 10:09 PM
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We already have Shawn Belle.

Who are you talking about? The list of young RFA D-men does not have a lot of guys that:

1) Are available.

OR

2) Are worthy of trading Higgins for.
I was thinking about young like Cam Barker or Jack Johnson

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02-27-2009, 10:11 PM
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Kostitsyn Koivu Tanguay
Pacioretty Plekanec Kovalev
Latendresse Lapierre Higgins
Stewart Metropolit Kostopolous
(Chipchura/Sergei/Dandy/Laraque/D'Agostini)

The problem that I see is that even if Dandy and Laraque are traded, and Sergei is kept down, we have way too many players. Metropolit may be a stop gap unless he lights it up and plays outstanding, but I see a trade coming.

I would like to see Plekanec stay to eventually take over center duties from Koivu in a few years because he's only 26. But until then we have a unique opportunity when our great young players are light on the wallet. Koivu and Lapierre aren't going anywhere, so I think Plekanec is the odd one out. He may be packaged with Chipchura and/or Higgins and some draft picks/prospects to land a big center. I definitely don't see a Tkachuk type signing. We already have WAY too many wingers. It's either an offensive right-handed center or nothing.

I definitely like the moves that we've made though since last year to become tougher. Calling up D'Agostini, Pacioretty and Stewart who all play a more physical style. I do think that we are a top 4D and top 2 center away from contending strongly this season.

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02-27-2009, 10:13 PM
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wow i didnt realize that D'Agostini has the worst +/- ratio of the team with -14
lets put it this way

pacioretty is the better player and SHOULd stay with the team the rest of the year, but if i know the habs, dagostini is the one who will stay and max will be sent down..

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02-27-2009, 10:19 PM
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Tanguay - xxx - Kostitsyn
xxx - Plekanec - Kovalev
Higgins - Koivu - Pacioretty
Latendresse - Lapierre - Kostopoulos
Metropolit


yeah i know... that just doesnt happen

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02-27-2009, 10:20 PM
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I was thinking about young like Cam Barker or Jack Johnson
Thanks for dropping a couple of names to emphasize your point. I figured this was just the classic "dump Higgins" mentality we've seen a lot of lately. However, these players make some sense. However, I doubt that either of those trades would go down.

I highly doubt that the Kings would move Jack Johnson as he's a big piece of thier future. The Kings would need to rob us blind to give up on him.

I would rather not see the Habs trade Higgins straight up for Barker. I have seen a ton of the Hawks this year and Barker has offensive promise, but really needs to work on his defensive game. Besides, the Hawks would want a center in return, as that's where their need is. Higgins is terrible at center and the Habs can't afford to give up a centre without getting one back right now (unless that center is Chipchura).

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02-27-2009, 10:54 PM
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My lineup is pretty much what Dripper has.

Tanguay - Koivu - A. Kostitsyn
Pacioretty - Plekanec - Kovalev
Latendresse - Lapierre - Kostopoulos
Higgins - Metropolit - D'agostini/Dandenault/

Markov - Schneider
Hamrlik - Komisarek
Bouillon - Gorges

The first line could be killer, and the seconds line would probably be better with Pacioretty instead of Kostitsyn. Third line was damn good before Latendresse got injured.

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02-27-2009, 10:55 PM
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Send D'Agostini down

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02-27-2009, 11:14 PM
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Going by Carbo's past attitude, its gonna go by talent level first. Unfortunately, that's gonna put Kostopolous out of the lineup unless one of the better players doesnt deliver or is hurt. Assuming nobody else comes or goes...

L1 Higgins-Koivu-Tanguay
L2 AKostistyn-Plecs-Kovy

These top 2 lines I wouldnt change

L3A Lats-Lapiere-Pac
L3B Dago-Metro-Stewart

Bottom 6 players are all interchangable. I wouldn't say any of these guys are 4th liners.

Reserves in order of use: Kostopolous, Sergei, Chips, Dandy(if hes still here), BGL(if hes still here)

Defence is fairly simple

Markov-Schneider
Hammer-Komi
Bouillon-Georges

Reserves: Breezy, Janik

Of course if Lang makes a miracle recovery, then all hell breaks loose in the lineup of forwards. Fun problem to have.

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02-27-2009, 11:20 PM
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My lineup is similar, if not the same as some on here, but here is what I would like to see.

Tanguay Koivu A.Kostitsyn
Pacioretty Plekanec Kovalev
Latendresse Lapierre Higgins
Stewart Metropolit Kostopolous Laraque

Markov Schneider
Hamrlik Gorges
Dandenault Komisarek Brisebois, O'Byrne

I think Dandenault needs to be in on D rather than Breezer, he was playing good before he broke his arm. And I would keep S.Kostitsyn, Dags, and Chips in Hamilton, or at least in the press box. I think Lapierre Latendresse and Higgins would be awesome together, kind of a crash and bang line that could put some goals in.

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02-27-2009, 11:21 PM
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There's no way Carbo sits TKO. He's his favorite player. Didn't he say something like 'I would like to put 12 Tom Ks on the ice'?

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02-27-2009, 11:24 PM
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There's no way Carbo sits TKO. He's his favorite player. Didn't he say something like 'I would like to put 12 Tom Ks on the ice'?
He sure did, I love Tom the Bomb too, but not at 21 minutes a game.

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02-28-2009, 01:42 AM
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Wow, there's alot of people living in the twilight zone The exepriments are done... what you see is what we're going to look like in the playoffs, Tanguay will take D'agostini's spot next to Koivu and Higgins where he belong and that will be that, plain and simple

edit: post #6000!

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02-28-2009, 02:32 AM
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D'Agostini is Michael Ryder Take 2.. if other GMs like what they see then Bob should use him as bait to get a reliable defensive defenseman.

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02-28-2009, 02:40 AM
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Oh and my lines would be..

A. Kostitsyn Koivu Tanguay
Paciorretty Plekanec Kovalev
Higgins Lapierre Latendresse
Stewart Metropolit Kostopoulos

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02-28-2009, 04:55 AM
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I'd definitely give D'Ago some time to re-unite the line that was setting the team on fire before Tanguay's injury.

Tanguay - Koivu - D'Agostini
Higgins - TRADE (Reinprecht? Antropov?) - Kovalev
Pacioretty - Plekanec - A. Kostitsyn
Latendresse - Lapierre - Kostopoulos
Metropolit, S. Kostitsyn

- (Chipchura/Stewart are going to help Hamilton win the Calder Cup.. where-as Kostitsyn belongs here, even if he has sucked this season. Not to mention, Sergei was incredible in the playoffs last year).

Markov - Scheinder
Hamrlik - Komisarek
Gorges - TRADE (O'Brien)
Brisebois

- Brisebois was incredible in the playoffs last year, but we need more of a shut-down, physical type guy.. and O'Brien would bring that. He may of played his last regular game in the Canucks line-up tonight.


TRADE: Dandenault (low pick?), Laraque (waive?)

PROPOSAL:
To Vancouver: Francis Bouillon, Mathieu Aubin, 4th
To Montreal: Shane O'Brien

- After acquiring Vannanen, Vancouver now has a #6 better than O'Brien. This could open them up to trading him especially to get two (albeit small) assets in the process, instead of possibly losing him for free.

To Phoenix: Brock Trotter, 3rd
To Montreal: Steve Reinprecht

- Phoenix needs help on the wing, yet we have no depth there after Pacioretty and Quailer. Maybe with the loss of Ballard and possibly Morris, they may be more into a defensive prospect like Carle?

What would we need to add/change?


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02-28-2009, 05:11 AM
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Kostitsyn Koivu Tanguay
Pacioretty Plekanec Kovalev
Latendresse Lapierre Higgins
Stewart Metropolit Kostopolous
(Chipchura/Sergei/Dandy/Laraque/D'Agostini)
I would put d'Agostini ahead of Stewart. Even if you want to pair up Koivu and Tanguay (I would prefer to try the top three vets on three different lines), I would make the following changes: d'Ago in Latendresse's spot, and Latendresse in Stewart's spot.

Pacioretty Plekanec Kovalev
Tanguay Koivu Kostitsyn
Higgins Lapierre d'Agostini
Latendresse Metropolit Kostopolous



Another option is to insert Stewart for Metropolit, moving Higgins to Center.

Pacioretty Plekanec Kovalev
Latendresse Koivu Kostitsyn
Tanguay Higgins d'Agostini
Stewart Lapierre Kostopolous
...spares: Metropolit, Dandenault
...move: Laraque
...Hamilton: Chipchura

What I like about these lines is that each of the top three combinations has a proven productive veteran, an established 24-26 yo to second him, and a 20-22 yo with offensive potential to round them out. Each of the lines has playmaking as well as finishing ability. I would not want to be the opposing coach and try to figure out who to match my defensive specialists against!

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02-28-2009, 07:48 AM
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Tanguay-Koivu-Pacioretty
A. Kostitsyn-Plekanec-Kovalev
Higgins-Lapierre-Latendresse
Stewart/Laraque-Metropolit-Kostopoulos

It ultimately becomes a numbers game, and while D'Ago certainly deserves to be up on the big squad, I think he's the odd man out. Either him or the other rook Pac. Playing either with grinders on the 4th line wouldn't be utilizing them properly anyway...

For next year, if we go young and give the kids a shot, and doin't make a trade:

Kostitsyn-Plekanec-Kostitsyn
Pacioretty-Koivu-D-Agostini
Higgins-Lapierre-Latendresse
Kostopoulos-Chipchura-Stewart/Laraque

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02-28-2009, 07:54 AM
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I'm terribly exited about Tanguay's return! I'm rather positive he'll be paired with Koivu again, but who else will be put with them. Probably Higgins, so far, I feel he's been playing better ever since our team turned 180 degrees (I suspect he wants and will leave the team after the season). I think he'll start with them.

I hope Lats plays well when he comes back. I don't know what to add for him, I don't hate him, I don't adore him either.

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02-28-2009, 08:26 AM
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I'd say it's pretty much set in stone that Carbo will go back to the lines he wanted to start the season with:

A. Kostitsyn - Plekanec - Kovalev
Higgins - Koivu - Tanguay

I would love to swap Andrei for Higgy, and then flip Tanguay and Kosty from LW to RW, but I don't think that's realistic with Carbo.

I hope to see a line which showed a lot of promise in the very short time it was together:

Pacioretty - Lapierre - Latendresse

and then a fourth line of:

Stewart/Laraque - Metropolit - Kostopolous

That looks like a pretty solid group of forwards IMO. D'Agostini and Chipchura down to Hamilton to help with the Calder Cup run, Sergei in Montreal watching or filling in for injuries/slumps.

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02-28-2009, 08:54 AM
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One Tanguay is back, Dandy and BGL are "gone", then probably D'ago once Lats is ready to come back

something like

Tang, Koivu, Higgins
Kost, Plek, Kovy
Lats, Lap, Kosto
Stewart, Metro, Pac.

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02-28-2009, 09:43 AM
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Without any trades..

Tanguay-Koivu-A. Kostitsyn
Pacioretty-Plekanec-Kovalev
Higgins-Lapierre-Latendresse
Kostopolous-Chipchura-D'Agostini

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