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03-01-2009, 11:16 PM
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My dad oopsied.

The interview wasn't live. It was taped about 30 minutes after the game, and it was apparently in the same vein of the stuff the DMN had, according to a friend who works on the FOX4 show. It did have more emphasis on the "we were tangled up and couldn't get over there" issue, but more of the same in general.

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That's pathetic, and frankly the last straw from lazy, heartless Mike Modano. I'll say it once and I'll say it again, I hope he retires. He's a total drag on this team, and his sorry ass needs benching.

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when did this eye gouge happen? the only time it seemed steve ott had the upper hand was after moen delivered 16 punches to the head, jersey'd ott, and then tripped on the end boards...

i'm pretty sure it is, judging by this quote: "You don't like it when a guy eye-gouges you after a fight"

isn't there a rule allowing for suspensions when a known goon starts a fight late in the game (never mind after the horn!) or is that just a fine to the coach for putting him on the ice? either way, how does moen not get intent to injure for taking on a player who can't fight back, because he is wearing a cast? and why don't the officials do anything more than just stand and gawk? those guys should be getting fined.

friday should be fun.


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03-02-2009, 03:27 AM
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when did this eye gouge happen? the only time it seemed steve ott had the upper hand was after moen delivered 16 punches to the head, jersey'd ott, and then tripped on the end boards...

i'm pretty sure it is, judging by this quote: "You don't like it when a guy eye-gouges you after a fight"

isn't there a rule allowing for suspensions when a known goon starts a fight late in the game (never mind after the horn!) or is that just a fine to the coach for putting him on the ice? either way, how does moen not get intent to injure for taking on a player who can't fight back, because he is wearing a cast? and why don't the officials do anything more than just stand and gawk? those guys should be getting fined.

friday should be fun.
I believe the eye gouge happened when both guys were on the ground, immediately after they fell. Moen starts kicking his legs almost immediately like something's going on. That's when I think it happened.

The officials didn't seem to handle the end well at all, imo. I think an instigator was missed, but I think it should have been on Giguere and Moen a third-man in.

The rule you're talking about involves instigating.

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03-02-2009, 03:33 AM
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when did this eye gouge happen? the only time it seemed steve ott had the upper hand was after moen delivered 16 punches to the head, jersey'd ott, and then tripped on the end boards...

i'm pretty sure it is, judging by this quote: "You don't like it when a guy eye-gouges you after a fight"
At the end (34 second mark of youtube clip), when Ott is on Moen you can see Moen's legs start kicking- I'm guessing because he had a finger in his eye. Then you can see the ref actually pull Ott's hand back when he saw what was going on (about 38 second mark).

Also, isn't Ott's RIGHT hand injured? The referee pulled his left arm back so I don't believe it was the casts faults.

I'm only going off of deductive reasoning here, but this looks intentional to me.

Not to mention, it all started because Ott hit Nieds three times- twice after the buzzer. He made his bed in this one.

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Moen has said he thinks it might have been unintentional, and Ott says it was an accident. The fact that Moen doesn't disagree with Ott's assessment leads me to believe Ott here. Little punk that he is, an eye-gouge would be unlike him. Borderline hit? Like him. Nasty stickwork? Very much like him. But the biting/gouging/hair-pull/ stomping business has never been his thing.

And it all started because Giguere overreacted to a play that happens every single game. Ott was asking for a retaliatory slash. Jumping him is over the line, especially a goalie who wants to start a fight with an injured guy but is too chicken to actually fight himself.

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At the end (34 second mark of youtube clip), when Ott is on Moen you can see Moen's legs start kicking- I'm guessing because he had a finger in his eye. Then you can see the ref actually pull Ott's hand back when he saw what was going on (about 38 second mark).

Also, isn't Ott's RIGHT hand injured? The referee pulled his left arm back so I don't believe it was the casts faults.

I'm only going off of deductive reasoning here, but this looks intentional to me.

Not to mention, it all started because Ott hit Nieds three times- twice after the buzzer. He made his bed in this one.
Ott has a cast on his hand and if he fights with it on he will get a suspension. That is why Moen and is zero NHL ability decided to jump Ott. A Cross-Check to the lower back happens in almost every game in the NHL. Does that give the right for 4 Ducks players to jump a guy who since he has a cast on and who can't defend himself because of it be explained logically? Yes...in one sentence it can..***** **** MOTHER ****ERS.

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03-02-2009, 09:10 AM
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I'm expecting at least 3 games, they'll want to keep him out of the return game.

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Steve Ott has received a one-game suspension for his eye gouging with Travis Moen at the end of Saturday's game.

He served that Sunday against Pittsburgh and is eligible to play Tuesday at San Jose.

Also, the Stars have placed Sean Avery on recall waivers. They had to send someone to the minors to clear the space for the move. My guess is Ray Sawada was sent, but it might be just an administrative move and he could be back on the West Coast trip.


Glad to be proved wrong, welcome back Otter

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03-02-2009, 12:08 PM
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great, at least the league didn't screw up too badly on this

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Last game was boring as hell without him, welcome back Ott!

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The human scud missile is back!

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What doesn't make sense is that Moen claimed immediately after the game Ott was pulling at his eye. A short time later Moen changed his tune to suggest it might have been an accident.

Getting a finger in the eye could certainly be accidental, but pulling at an eye would not be. Moen's changing tune leads me to believe he embellished his original claim.

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03-02-2009, 01:22 PM
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What doesn't make sense is that Moen claimed immediately after the game Ott was pulling at his eye. A short time later Moen changed his tune to suggest it might have been an accident.

Getting a finger in the eye could certainly be accidental, but pulling at an eye would not be. Moen's changing tune leads me to believe he embellished his original claim.
How in the **** is Moen not getting a game suspension.

This is what Moen did:
47.2 Aggressor – The aggressor in an altercation shall be the player (or
goalkeeper) who continues to throw punches in an attempt to inflict
punishment on his opponent who is in a defenseless position or who
is an unwilling combatant.
A player (or goalkeeper) must be deemed the aggressor when he
has clearly won the fight but he continues throwing and landing
punches in a further attempt to inflict punishment and/or injury on his
opponent who is no longer in a position to defend himself.
A player or goalkeeper who is deemed to be the aggressor of an
altercation shall be assessed a major penalty for fighting and a game
misconduct.
A player or goalkeeper who is deemed to be the aggressor of an
altercation will have this recorded as an aggressor of an altercation for
statistical and suspension purposes.
A player or goalkeeper who is deemed to be both the instigator
and aggressor of an altercation shall be assessed an instigating minor
penalty, a major penalty for fighting, a ten-minute misconduct
(instigator) and a game misconduct penalty (aggressor).

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47.9 Fighting Other Than During the Periods of the Game - Any teams
whose players or goalkeepers become involved in an altercation,
other than during the periods of the game, shall be fined pursuant to
47.20, in addition to any other appropriate penalties that may be
imposed upon the participating players or goalkeepers by
supplementary discipline or otherwise.
Players involved in fighting other than during the periods of the
game shall be assessed a major penalty and a game misconduct.
Should one player be deemed the instigator of the fight, the game
misconduct shall not be assessed to his opponent.
Any player or goalkeeper who would be deemed to be an
instigator pursuant to this rule at a time other than during the periods
of the game shall be suspended pursuant to 47.20.
In the case of altercations taking place after the period or game
the fine under this rule shall be assessed only in the event that an
altercation is commenced after the period or game has terminated.
Should players come onto the ice from their players’ benches after
the period ends and prior to the start of an altercation, they shall not
be penalized if they remain in the vicinity of their players’ bench and
provided they do not get involved in any altercations.

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03-02-2009, 02:26 PM
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Honestly, I feel for Moen than I do Giguere. I doubt Moen saw the original goalie mug of Ott, just turned around and saw Giguere locked around him.

I do think he was a third-man in (though apparently that gets a lot more leeway with a goalie involved). I feel Giguere should have gotten an instigator. I hope both got at least warned by the league, Moen for fighting guys who can't fight back and Giguere for jumping guys at the end of the game.

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