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02-15-2009, 11:51 PM
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who would you guys most like to see us get?

Now I'm talking players that can be had and I dont see us making an offer for a big player anytime soon look for some moves like we made last year like Brandon Bochenski and Jan Hlavac.. i thought Hlavac ended up being a really good deal seems we paid what a 7th?

kind of deal like this do you guys see happening?

some i think...
Dan Ryder one season left at .773 (hes playing in newfoundland again and puting up some good numbers) CGY fans want to get rid of this guy hes can put up points and would be a good young guy to get for cheep// he was the mvp in the playoffs for his team why not take a flyer?

Andrew Ladd one season left at 1.55... i dont know how much it would cost to get this guy from Chi but hes a guy i think could do really well on the preds

Rob Schremp RFA... now I know kid has some holes in his game but I think he can be had for cheep and he plays the wing in AHL so could help us there...

Petr Prucha RFA... once scored 28 seems to be not wanted in NYR again had for cheep might do somthing here given the chance...

Jonathan Cheechoo 2 seasons 3mill...I put this here bc lets have it hes not the player he used to be but hes not really old...San Jose may move him to make cap room for Mike Grier,Ryane Clowe, and some others kinda pricey kinda high risk for us but still might be worth it

Radim Vrbata (if bought out this summer) probably sign for cheep all depends on how hes doing over where hes playing now i guess..

Michel Ouellet UFA... again sign for cheep not sure how hes doing in the ahl right now but hes able to put up points at times...



now mostly nothing big here i know just some little tweaks I can see happening.. of them all Id love to get Andrew Ladd....feel free to rip and add some players you guys can see =)

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02-16-2009, 12:05 AM
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Dan Ryder might not even make the NHL and has had trouble scoring in the AHL. He's only 22, but he's not a solution.

I doubt Ladd is available.

Schremp is a lot like Cal O'Reilly. Trotz and I have similar feelings on Cal. (That means no.)

Prucha will likely never live up to that 30 goal season he scored on a line with Jagr. He could probably be another good throw-away finding for Poile, though, and we might be able to hang onto him, unlike Hlavac.

Cheechoo is too much money for a player underacheiving the way he is. He's not worth taking a chance on despite a respectable track record.

Vrbata is one of the most inconsistent players to ever skate in the NHL on a regular basis.

Ouellet skates like he's standing on a shag rug. Having actually had a couple of opportunities to see him play... he doesn't really bring anything we don't already have or can't find within our own organiation.

All that said, I would rank your options like this:

1. Ladd
2. Prucha
3. Schremp
4. Cheechoo (ranked lower mainly due to his contract)
5. Ouellet
6. Vrbata
7. Ryder









The player I want the most is Alexei Ponikarovsky. The guy is huge and is a consistent 20-goal scorer.

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02-16-2009, 01:04 AM
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Dan Ryder might not even make the NHL and has had trouble scoring in the AHL. He's only 22, but he's not a solution.

I doubt Ladd is available.

Schremp is a lot like Cal O'Reilly. Trotz and I have similar feelings on Cal. (That means no.)

Prucha will likely never live up to that 30 goal season he scored on a line with Jagr. He could probably be another good throw-away finding for Poile, though, and we might be able to hang onto him, unlike Hlavac.

Cheechoo is too much money for a player underacheiving the way he is. He's not worth taking a chance on despite a respectable track record.

Vrbata is one of the most inconsistent players to ever skate in the NHL on a regular basis.

Ouellet skates like he's standing on a shag rug. Having actually had a couple of opportunities to see him play... he doesn't really bring anything we don't already have or can't find within our own organiation.

All that said, I would rank your options like this:

1. Ladd
2. Prucha
3. Schremp
4. Cheechoo (ranked lower mainly due to his contract)
5. Ouellet
6. Vrbata
7. Ryder


The player I want the most is Alexei Ponikarovsky. The guy is huge and is a consistent 20-goal scorer.
for the most part I do agree but I just look at who we have and who we have coming up... and it makes you realize how much how much they had invested in rads...and was just thinking of a move like Hlavac last year who when done you said mah no big deal.... but given the chance was able to do good def worth what we paid... Poni is one i have thought about just forgot when I made my post lol .... yes i think he would be good with Legwand and shouldn't cost much to resign after next year.. all in all I just think we need to add at least 1 more top 6 now and some depth in the ahl that could maybe step up wouldn't hurt (thus rider).. i think if we do nothing team is going to fall up front .. and i do think were going to make at least one small move in the next couple of weeks bc were still fighting for a playoff spot and im sure ownership would LOVE at least 2 home games

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A few guys I wouldn't mind seeing in a Preds uniform:

Bill Guerin ($4,500,000 - UFA)
Richard Park ($750,000 - $750,000 - UFA)
Nik Antropov ($2,050,000 - UFA)
Matt Stajan ($1,750,000 - $1,750,000 - RFA)


There a few others, but these are some somewhat realistic ideas to toss around..

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Poni or Antropov out of Toronto

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hey I was just going around people's boards, getting the feel for what people want from Toronto, and I would have to say that if you made a pitch for Poni (probably not Antropov because he would cost you a lot more, and you guys draft really well might I add) he would likely cost you a second round pick and a lesser pick (kinda like the rumor that was going around of him getting traded to Vancouver) or a mid-tier prospect... on another board people were saying Poni for Franson straight up.. not sure if you would do that or not, but that's the thoughts on other people's minds.. just thought I would share.

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03-03-2009, 12:35 AM
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hey I was just going around people's boards, getting the feel for what people want from Toronto, and I would have to say that if you made a pitch for Poni (probably not Antropov because he would cost you a lot more, and you guys draft really well might I add) he would likely cost you a second round pick and a lesser pick (kinda like the rumor that was going around of him getting traded to Vancouver) or a mid-tier prospect... on another board people were saying Poni for Franson straight up.. not sure if you would do that or not, but that's the thoughts on other people's minds.. just thought I would share.
I highly doubt Poile would pull the trigger on just about any move involving Franson. No way Poni for Franson straight up. I would love to see Poni on the Preds, for the right price of course.

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Cheechoo is finally healthy again. He's just the odd man out in the Sharks' top 6. On any other team, he should be a top 6 forward so considering that $3m cap hit isn't that much...

Would you trade Zanon + your 2nd for Cheechoo? Sharks could use a depth dman and a pick for Cheechoo.

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Cheechoo is finally healthy again. He's just the odd man out in the Sharks' top 6. On any other team, he should be a top 6 forward so considering that $3m cap hit isn't that much...

Would you trade Zanon + your 2nd for Cheechoo? Sharks could use a depth dman and a pick for Cheechoo.
Cheechoo's value has dropped significantly. There's no way I would do that trade. Too bad it seems injuries have derailed his career.

If we are going that route I would rather see one of the Toronto boys coming here.

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i would rather have cheechoo than either of the toronto guys...but we can't really afford to lose Zanon. I think we're more looking to deal picks\prospects...and I will say this now...if we make a trade, I'd bet dollars to donuts Cody Franson is included.

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Hamhuis+ for P. Bergeron!

Then 2nd rd pick for D. Morris.


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Satan! He's on waivers and could help us without having to sacrifice a pick or prospect, and then we could still add someone else....

He's got 17 goals 19 assists, +3.. what do you guys think?

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Do you guys see the Preds being buyers or sellers? Or just sticking with what you have and hoping the sneak into the playoffs with it? Curious.

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Do you guys see the Preds being buyers or sellers? Or just sticking with what you have and hoping the sneak into the playoffs with it? Curious.
As odd as it sounds...Poile is in the position of doing both buying and selling. We have pieces that are spare parts here and are UFA's at season's end and then we also have some needs that must be addressed too.

Will be interesting to see how it all works out...

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Satan! He's on waivers and could help us without having to sacrifice a pick or prospect, and then we could still add someone else....

He's got 17 goals 19 assists, +3.. what do you guys think?
No. Doesn't fit the culture of this team.

And if Pittsburgh is waiving him with all the secondary scoring they need, he obviously can't be counted on a scorer. And if you can't be counted on a scorer next to Crosby/Malking, he's certainly not going to flurish next to Legwand, Ward, etc.

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No. Doesn't fit the culture of this team.

And if Pittsburgh is waiving him with all the secondary scoring they need, he obviously can't be counted on a scorer. And if you can't be counted on a scorer next to Crosby/Malking, he's certainly not going to flurish next to Legwand, Ward, etc.
My thoughts exactly. Pass on Satan

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I highly doubt Poile would pull the trigger on just about any move involving Franson. No way Poni for Franson straight up. I would love to see Poni on the Preds, for the right price of course.
Why? What are we keeping Franson for? If not Franson, then we need to rid ourselves of Blum, Sulzer, or Klein then...

To me, Franson has the most trade value (well Blum does, but I dont think we need to lose him) and I think VK, Franson, and a mid range pick for Poni and Antropov is a fairly even trade.

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Cheechoo is finally healthy again. He's just the odd man out in the Sharks' top 6. On any other team, he should be a top 6 forward so considering that $3m cap hit isn't that much...

Would you trade Zanon + your 2nd for Cheechoo? Sharks could use a depth dman and a pick for Cheechoo.
Zanon and a 4th for Cheechoo...

Zanon is our PK guy. We need a role player like him for the playoffs...

Now, if Sulzer had not gotten hurt and showed that he could play on our 2nd pairing with Hamhuis, I would more apt to taking this trade. But not now with Sulzer being hurt and a relative unknown on the NHL level.

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I still stand by my original post. Ponikarovsky.

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I wouldn't mind trading Franson, as long as it's for something decent, and NOT for a rental.

Sulzer is next in line to get a permanent place on blueline. We really dont' have the roster space for Franson anytime soon.

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I still stand by my original post. Ponikarovsky.
I second this. or Antropov

I also think Franson should be dangled over Hamhuis, Klein, Blum, Sulzer, or Zanon

I also think that Satan would be a low risk, high reward pick up.

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I wouldn't mind trading Franson, as long as it's for something decent, and NOT for a rental.

Sulzer is next in line to get a permanent place on blueline. We really dont' have the roster space for Franson anytime soon.
And that is why you should go after Poni, because he still has one more year on his current contract, he's not a rental, is big can hit and has a tank of a shot when he actually uses it!

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I also think that Satan would be a low risk, high reward pick up.
I just said this on the NPboard, but I think Satan would be ideal (and only for 1/4 of his $3.5M contract

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The assets we have to use (in order of likelihood of using them) IMO:

Koistenen
Minor goalie prospect
O'Reilly
Franson
Hornqvist
Other minor prospects
Ortmeyer
Mid-level prospects
Bonk
Ellis
DeVries
Hamhuis
Klien/Sulzer

Most likely teams to trade with (in order) IMO:

Toronto
Buffalo
Ottawa
Carolina
Philly
Colorado


Some potential trades IMO (most likely in bold):

Antropov for Koistenen and a pick (3rd)
Poni for Koistenen, minor prospect (Maki/Flynn) and a pick (4th)
Poni for Hornqvist and a pick (6th)
Poni for Franson

Afinagenov for a pick (5th)
Connolly or Kotilik plus Lalime for Ellis, Koistenen and two picks (4th and 7th)
Vermette for Ellis and Franson
Vermette for Ellis, Hornqvist and a minor prospect
Chad LaRose for Koistenen and a 5th
Scott Walker for a 7th
Upshall for Ellis and Franson (after trading Biron)
Lupul for Hamhuis (I think Lupul has less value than most think)
Lupul for Ellis, O'Reilly and a pick (ditto)
Lupul for Franson, O'Reilly (ditto)
Svatos for Koistenen, O'Reilly and a pick
Hejduk for O'Reilly and Franson and a pick
....Satan off waivers


Some of these are under-payment some overpayment- I'm guessing not making offers.
I think the Preds wind up keeping DeVries and Bonk for the playoff push.

EDIT: To avoid brick throwing, I have to say I think I'm way off on value on some of these, particularly Vermette.


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I kinda like the kinda like the idea of Scott Walker. He's the kind of guy who can turn up the volume. He'd come dirt cheap; only downside is he has another 2.5m left on his contract. Probably a deal killer.

Svatos would be nice. Antroprov for Kosisten and a pick would be hard to pass up on....


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I also think that Satan would be a low risk, high reward pick up.
It's a big risk. He's an almost no-dimensional player. You put him on the ice, and he's a risk. Especially if he's not scoring.

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