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03-03-2009, 05:01 PM
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I love how careful everyone is around here about insulting Bob.
and why wouldn't we be? no need to insult Bob... he's more than earned his credibility. Widely recognized as one of the best in the business.

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I love how careful everyone is around here about insulting Bob.
No real need to be "careful", if Bob was going to get chased away by people taking little shots at him it would've happened long ago. I think most people with a clue just have respect for the guy.

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I doubt Ohlund gets traded
ohlund will NOT be resigned by us.might as well trade him for a younger version.IMO

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For a signed Jbou (most likely teams will work out signing before trade according to rumors with philly)

Ryan Kesler would be an interesting return for a sign Jbou

I wouldnt mind Edler center (not sure whom for top 2 lines) and a 1st either

Something around Hodgson has potentials as well.

If not worked with a signing,

Edler, 1st and spec perhaps

something along those lines seems to be about the rumors (carle, jvr, etce etc)

Be interesting to see where this might go

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How on Earth could the Flyers even manage to have close to the cap space for Bouwmeester. I mean they're not trading picks or prospects (most likely JVR since he's brought up in all Flyers trades this season) for a rental, even if it is Bouwmeester. But it seems so unlikely that they could unload enough salary to afford to resign him next year, Briere, Lupul and maybe more would have to go, and then I'm not sure the benefits outweigh the losses.

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The only way I'd want to see the canucks make a pitch for JBo would have to have picks that are conditional, depending what prospects/players we give up.

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Flyers could make a better offer.

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i hope this rumor is true, i would love to see Bouwmeester in a Canucks uni.

Grabner/Raymond are going to have to be involved.

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For a signed Jbou (most likely teams will work out signing before trade according to rumors with philly)

Ryan Kesler would be an interesting return for a sign Jbou

I wouldnt mind Edler center (not sure whom for top 2 lines) and a 1st either

Something around Hodgson has potentials as well.

If not worked with a signing,

Edler, 1st and spec perhaps

something along those lines seems to be about the rumors (carle, jvr, etce etc)

Be interesting to see where this might go
Hodgson, Edler, Kesler are all extremely unlikely candidates to be traded. Bieksa and Ohlund are much more likely as far as defenseman go.

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ohlund will NOT be resigned by us.might as well trade him for a younger version.IMO
except he has a little thing called a No Trade Clause

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Bieska has to be in there simply from a Vancouver cap perspective. Bouwmeester is a better player. Vancouver already decided they are going for something big the season with Sundin. If they have the Sedins, Sundin, Ohlund and J-Bo as UFAs...tough summer. Sedins and J-Bo would be the top priorities.

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Ohlund, Raymond, Sauve, 1st, Conditional 1st(Re-signs, or SCF) for Bouwmeester

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Hopefully they get him. Would mean the teams on Kabs NTC list may turn to him in the East later tomorow.

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hmmmm if we trade bieksa i don't see the point. Bieksa has about the same points.. can't we trade ohlund + Raymond + 1rst round pick + prospect?

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except he has a little thing called a No Trade Clause
Which he would waive.

Honestly, I really don't see Florida moving Jay-Bo to Philly unless they seriously overpaid. Why would they want to deal him to a team they could be facing in the playoffs?

If it's between Vancouver and Philly, assuming Bouwmeester will be dealt, I think as long as Vancouver offers something reasonable (Ohlund, Raymond, 1st round pick?), a deal will get done.

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I can't see the Canucks putting together a better package than the Flyers. If Gillis wants Bouwmeester, I think he's going to have to make him an offer he can't refuse come July 1st.

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Bieska has to be in there simply from a Vancouver cap perspective. Bouwmeester is a better player. Vancouver already decided they are going for something big the season with Sundin. If they have the Sedins, Sundin, Ohlund and J-Bo as UFAs...tough summer. Sedins and J-Bo would be the top priorities.
It's pretty clear that Ohlund is not coming back and you've got to assume that the Canucks are prepared to play next year without Sundin.

JBo at around $6m along with Bieksa, Edler, Mitchell, Salo adding up to $14m probably means a defense costing around $21-22m.. with Mitchell and Salo coming off the books in '10 and '11, respectively. It can be done.

Although whether Florida wants to resign Ohlund (or whether Ohlund would want to sign in Florida) and as such whether he has any value for them is highly debatable.

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Bieksa would be the guy the Panthers want back, along with some good picks/prospect (perhaps Schneider or Grabner).
Refer to my avatar. Schneider means nothing to us.

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I can't see the Canucks putting together a better package than the Flyers. If Gillis wants Bouwmeester, I think he's going to have to make him an offer he can't refuse come July 1st.
Agreed. As much as I don't mind Raymond,Lupul/Briere give a lot more bang to the lineup now. How does Grabner help us now? We do need a ready NHL Dman back in return if Bou is dealt.

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I love how careful everyone is around here about insulting Bob.
Well I don't know about you but I don't want Bob to call me an assclown!

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I can't see the Canucks putting together a better package than the Flyers. If Gillis wants Bouwmeester, I think he's going to have to make him an offer he can't refuse come July 1st.
Given the state of the NA economy it's a wonder Backstrom got what he did today. Assures Gaborik is out.

I'm sure Bouwmeester will get the 6-6.5M he wants, but it's still a bonkers amount of money to give out with this level of uncertainty.

On the same token. Who is going to pay BOTH Sedins 6M per season, which they supposedly want. You have to take BOTH of them and I cannot think of a single team with that sort of room. I think it would be a two horse race for them: Vancouver and Toronto (space, and Burke). I think they would only get 5-5.5M if they insist on being a package.

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As long as they retain him, fine. But to give 1st rounder, and 2 prospects, or a prospect and a roster player is asinine for 20 games of service from Jaybo.

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Bieska has to be in there simply from a Vancouver cap perspective. Bouwmeester is a better player. Vancouver already decided they are going for something big the season with Sundin. If they have the Sedins, Sundin, Ohlund and J-Bo as UFAs...tough summer. Sedins and J-Bo would be the top priorities.
the canucks have enough cap space to add JBo's contract (and then some) without having to lose any salary off the roster.

so if they are going into a "tough summer" where several key players are hitting UFA status, does it really make sense to move a guy like Bieksa who can play huge minutes signed for a couple more years at a very decent contract?

personally, if they price is too high, I'd rather see Florida trade JBo to Philly... could be a trade they remember for a long time, and help them forget the Luongo deal!! Florida and Philly could very well be playing in the 1st round ... wouldn't it be great to see Florida move their best player to a conference rival that beats them in the 1st round

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Campbell got a 1st rounder and Bernier.

Why would Florida realistically be getting more than Soup?

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Which he would waive.
Why would Ohlund waive it? If he were being dealt to a legitimate Cup contender, I could see it. But Florida?

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the philly offer might be better, but what happens if florida moves up one spot and faces the flyers in the first round? what happens the year after that?

martin should be looking towards the west, where bouwmeester will hardly ever come back to haunt them

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