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03-03-2009, 10:15 PM
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This is a horrible extension, how will we find the money to resign Wellwood now?

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03-03-2009, 10:22 PM
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Just a question here ... Are the teams not allowed to sign contract extensions between after the trade deadline and before July 1st?

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03-03-2009, 10:29 PM
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Just a question here ... Are the teams not allowed to sign contract extensions between after the trade deadline and before July 1st?
If not, they could agree to an extension in principle I'm sure.

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03-03-2009, 10:31 PM
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Just a question here ... Are the teams not allowed to sign contract extensions between after the trade deadline and before July 1st?
Nope, they're allowed...way too much hay is made of signing FAs by the trade deadline IMO.

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03-03-2009, 10:36 PM
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Nope, they're allowed...way too much hay is made of signing FAs by the trade deadline IMO.
I thought so.. This made me confused though:

"VANCOUVER, British Columbia (AP) -The Vancouver Canucks signed forward Alex Burrows to a four-year, $8 million contract extension Tuesday night, avoiding the possibility of losing the gritty winger as an unrestricted free agent."

Sounded like if they didn't sign him now he would be available as a UFA...

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03-03-2009, 10:39 PM
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I thought so.. This made me confused though:

"VANCOUVER, British Columbia (AP) -The Vancouver Canucks signed forward Alex Burrows to a four-year, $8 million contract extension Tuesday night, avoiding the possibility of losing the gritty winger as an unrestricted free agent."

Sounded like if they didn't sign him now he would be available as a UFA...
I'm thinking the author meant that there was a chance he would ge traded if he wasn't signed by the deadline.

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03-03-2009, 10:40 PM
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I thought so.. This made me confused though:

"VANCOUVER, British Columbia (AP) -The Vancouver Canucks signed forward Alex Burrows to a four-year, $8 million contract extension Tuesday night, avoiding the possibility of losing the gritty winger as an unrestricted free agent."

Sounded like if they didn't sign him now he would be available as a UFA...
I'm assuming they mean losing him in general to free agency.

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03-03-2009, 10:42 PM
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I just saw this thread and I **** IN MY PANTS.

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I thought so.. This made me confused though:

"VANCOUVER, British Columbia (AP) -The Vancouver Canucks signed forward Alex Burrows to a four-year, $8 million contract extension Tuesday night, avoiding the possibility of losing the gritty winger as an unrestricted free agent."

Sounded like if they didn't sign him now he would be available as a UFA...
If they didn't sign him, he would be available as a UFA July 1.

I don't know what's not to get about that line...

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I just saw this thread and I **** IN MY PANTS.
I went out and slewfooted someone in excitement.

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03-03-2009, 10:47 PM
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Apparently the hold up was that the Canucks wanted 3 years and Burrows wanted 5 years, so they split the difference.

http://www.theprovince.com/Canucks+s...023/story.html

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03-03-2009, 10:52 PM
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Parabola refuses to change the thread title to "Four More for da sleeeeeeeeeeeeeewfoot"

Missed opportunity fellas.

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Nice, that is really reasonable if he can continue at the same clip
He won't, but it will still be a ridiculous bargain 4 years from now when 2M is nothing.

Nice signing.

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03-03-2009, 11:19 PM
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Where are you hearing this? They expect the cap to stay about the same for next season, maybe drop $1-2M at most, and possibly even go up a bit. So you expect the cap to drop 10+M in one season? Highly unlikely. Last I heard early projections are for the cap in 2010/11 to be around the $50M mark.

I agree with you that Gillis sees Burrows continuing his progression as a top 6 forward. He'll never be the go to guy, but a support guy with the Sedins, in a sort of Claude Lemieux-lite role would be great for this team going forward.
the north american economy is deteriorating at a pace not seen since the 30s and North American consumers and businesses are in more debt than ever before (considerably more than the depression as a % of GDP); league revenue could easily fall 20% next year...IMO

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03-03-2009, 11:23 PM
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IMO $2mill is too much in a cap world (with an expected drop in the cap) for a bottom 6 player. I don't think you can look at "last years" cap numbers while handing out 4 year contracts either!

I don't think Burrows was paid $2mill/yr over the next 4 yrs to be a bottom 6 player... I think they see a progression in his game and expect him to take it to the next level - he is a very good signing as a top 6 player, as long as he can continue producing consistently.

If the cap goes down to the expected $40-44mill in a year, having $2mill/yr tied up for any bottom 6 player, takes away the quality you can plug into your top 6. If Burrows regresses to the player he was last year - a solid 2-way 3rd line agitator who can put up some points - he's overpaid at $2mill under that type of cap. If he can continue playing as he has this year - let alone improve on that - he'll be a good signing on his current deal (with the potential of being a great signing!).
This is the risk with giving these types of players of this length. Everyone thought Cooke was good deal at 4 years for 1.5 mill before he forgot how to be effective.

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Just one?

Calgary game seven to force overtime with 7 seconds left.

Minnesota game one to force overtime with 1 second left.
OK I have a bad memory

Burrows just put the Wild away with his 2nd of the game

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This is a horrible extension, how will we find the money to resign Wellwood now?
I really don't want to be the one to make a joke about paying him in McDonalds coupons.

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the north american economy is deteriorating at a pace not seen since the 30s and North American consumers and businesses are in more debt than ever before (considerably more than the depression as a % of GDP); league revenue could easily fall 20% next year...IMO
I'm just going from what they were speculating at the NHLPA meetings they had a short while ago. I don't see how the league could manage a drop in the salary cap of that magnitude without having a rollback of salaries as well.

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Apparently the hold up was that the Canucks wanted 3 years and Burrows wanted 5 years, so they split the difference.

http://www.theprovince.com/Canucks+s...023/story.html
I wouldn't have minded 5 years, but it was a smart move by Gillis.

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Fair deal. Good worrk by both sides.

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awesome deal. well done Gilly.

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I wouldn't have minded 5 years, but it was a smart move by Gillis.
Most players in his position would opt for the shorter 3 year contract. It looks like he figured that he won't get another chance at a huge contract and just decided to take as much as he could get now.

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I'm just going from what they were speculating at the NHLPA meetings they had a short while ago. I don't see how the league could manage a drop in the salary cap of that magnitude without having a rollback of salaries as well.
I don't see how they are going to get the players to agree to that without another work stoppage...... unless there is a provision in the current CBA. My guess is we see a lot of very overpaid AHLers while GMs adjust to the falling cap.

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I don't see how they are going to get the players to agree to that without another work stoppage...... unless there is a provision in the current CBA.
This is what I'm wondering as well. I know the cap is related to hockey revenue, but I can't see how it would even be possible for the cap to drop at such a dramatic rate in just one season. I'm sure there is some sort of provision that would deal with such a scenario. I guess we might see a lot of one year deals this off-season.

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