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03-04-2009, 11:38 AM
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Backlund is going nowhere! If Backlund is the asking price, we very likely will see a repetition of former years when the Flames were reported to be working on a deal around Jokinen but finally withdrew.
Backlund doesn't get you closer to the cup this season. Not expecting he's the return, but just saying. Jokinen is a bigger help, right now.

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Leopold from Avs to Flames for Nycholat who was just claimed from waivers plus prospect PLUS 2nd??

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Agreed. Jokinen would become the priority signing.
Jokinen is already signed until the end of NEXT year.

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Leopold from Avs to Flames for Nycholat who was just claimed from waivers plus prospect PLUS 2nd??
Wrong thread? Maybe?

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I hope this happens.

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WOW. HUGE for Flames. I want to know who the prospect is. Flames are stacking up.

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this is my speculation

1) if the flames get olli, that means 100% that cammy is NOT going to sign with the flames over the summer. olli will just take his spot

2) if olli is coming to the flames, lombo +1st is what its going to take

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Wrong thread? Maybe?
Yes it was. I have 3 of them open .

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Eh, I'd rather keep our own players. Injuries don't last forever. IF anything Calgary should be going after a defenseman...

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Fan960 is reporting that they are important pieces going to Phoenix, the deal is close to being done.

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If Sutter manages to grab Jokinen for only Lombardi or Boyd as roster players (not including picks/prospects).

The Flames have become contenders with Jokinen + Leopold for only Lombardi or Boyd off the roster.

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Eh, I'd rather keep our own players. Injuries don't last forever. IF anything Calgary should be going after a defenseman...
and done... good call lol

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this is my speculation

1) if the flames get olli, that means 100% that cammy is NOT going to sign with the flames over the summer. olli will just take his spot

2) if olli is coming to the flames, lombo +1st is what its going to take
How does it mean CAL will 100% not sign Cammy? Couldn't they just as easily re-sign Cammy, and move Jokinen (or someone else) before next season?

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How does it mean CAL will 100% not sign Cammy? Couldn't they just as easily re-sign Cammy, and move Jokinen (or someone else) before next season?
"IF" the flames acquire olli, why would sutter trade him 3 months later when he still has another year at 5.25mil??

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Leopold just added $250K of salary (pro-rated) or $1M of annual salary.

Does this hurt the potential Jokinen deal?

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Leopold just added $250K of salary (pro-rated) or $1M of annual salary.

Does this hurt the potential Jokinen deal?
He'll take a roster spot from someone making not a bunch less.

OR it allows Aucoin to be moved giving Sutter some more cap space to play with.

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Leopold just added $250K of salary (pro-rated) or $1M of annual salary.

Does this hurt the potential Jokinen deal?
it all depends on the pieces going back to phoenix. from what the media is reporting, it seems like it's possible even with the leopold trade.

personally, i dont see him coming to the flames but we'll see.

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Leopold just added $250K of salary (pro-rated) or $1M of annual salary.

Does this hurt the potential Jokinen deal?
All depends on what goes to Phoenix.

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All depends on what goes to Phoenix.
I thought Phoenix doesn't want salary?

Or maybe they will take a guy like Aucoin and flip him for even more pieces.

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I thought Phoenix doesn't want salary?

Or maybe they will take a guy like Aucoin and flip him for even more pieces.
Phoenix has to take back salary. With Jokinen gone, they will be below the cap floor.

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"IF" the flames acquire olli, why would sutter trade him 3 months later when he still has another year at 5.25mil??
Because he'd rather have Cammy, in that scenario, and because he may think he can play Jokinen's value up and move him again in the summer.

I'm not saying I think that scenario is particularly likely, but it's not impossible and I don't think trading for Jokinen "means 100% that cammy is NOT going to sign with the flames", as you said. It would make it more complicated to keep him, but not impossible.

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I thought Phoenix doesn't want salary?

Or maybe they will take a guy like Aucoin and flip him for even more pieces.
Flames fans are speculating an important D-man going back to Phoenix. Phoenix raded a good chunk of D to acquire Phoenix in the first place, and now that Calgary has Leopold, it may be more likely.

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I am guessing Lombardi, Pardy and a pick/prospect.

Pardy is overrated but people like his potential. I dont agree.

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"Simple" Olli + Keenan + Iginla = Career year for Jokinen next year

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