[COL/CGY] Leopold to Flames for Nycholat, Ryan Wilson & MTL 2nd rounder

Michael Scofield · 03-04-2009, 10:54 AM

haha, that it? Steal from the Flames

Enoch · 03-04-2009, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by mti79

I thought if you claimed someone off of waivers you couldn't trade him during that same season? Can anyone help out here? Am I wrong or is there something else that happened that I don't know about?

You can't trade him back to the same team I believe.

Hawkguy · 03-04-2009, 10:55 AM

Nycholat makes about $1M less than Leopold (about $250K pro-rated).

Does this hurt the potential Jokinen trade?

DownInFlames · 03-04-2009, 10:55 AM

My god I love trading with Colorado. Thanks Avalanche.

richardn · 03-04-2009, 10:55 AM

This is a steal for the Flames.

Lunatik* · 03-04-2009, 10:55 AM

I love this deal... LOVE IT!!!!... its gonna be hard to wipe this **** eating grin off my face

mouser · 03-04-2009, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by mti79

I thought if you claimed someone off of waivers you couldn't trade him during that same season? Can anyone help out here? Am I wrong or is there something else that happened that I don't know about?

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Originally Posted by jniklast

they can, but they have to be offered first to everybody who also put in a claim. i wonder, do gm's know if other teams put in a claim? because if not, maybe this deal falls through 'cuz some other team wants him...

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Originally Posted by jniklast

anybody know that?

That's correct. The wording is the offer to the other claiming teams must be completed before the player can be traded.

i.e. Presumably there were no other claims made, or Calgary has already gone through the offer process to the other claiming teams without a taker. Otherwise Calgary would not be allowed to trade him now.

Calgary Sens · 03-04-2009, 10:57 AM

I like how the Flames traded a 2nd round pick for Leopold, the 2nd round pick they got for trading Tanguay to Montreal, Tanguay which was traded for Leopold originally.

Coach Parker · 03-04-2009, 10:58 AM

Leopold?!?!

Leopold!!!

Jonas1235 · 03-04-2009, 10:58 AM

I don't think it's an out right steal for Calgary. Colorado still gets a mid-later 2nd round pick and a decent prospect who put up huge numbers in OHL for a UFA that they would have lost for nothing. Schneider got a 2nd and 3rd. Good deal for both sides.

mouser · 03-04-2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch

You can't trade him back to the same team I believe.

That was an old waiver-draft rule. That rule (and the waiver-draft itself) no longer exist.

SensNAvsfan · 03-04-2009, 10:59 AM

There should be a big sign in the Avalanche management offices saying: DON'T TRADE WITH THE FLAMES.Ugh.

BadHammy* · 03-04-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Crimson Devil

They picked Nycholat off waivers, and trade him away? LOL.

Yeah, this isn't the actual NHL, it's NHL '09. Anyway, great for me because I own Leopold. I hope CGY resigns him and lets him play with Phaneuf next yr.

Pure · 03-04-2009, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Jonas1235

I don't think it's an out right steal for Calgary. Colorado still gets a mid-later 2nd round pick and a decent prospect who put up huge numbers in OHL for a UFA that they would have lost for nothing. Schneider got a 2nd and 3rd. Good deal for both sides.

No man this is an excellent deal for Calgary. The only logic I see for Giguere is tanking. This isn't selling, this is giving players away.

Coug555 · 03-04-2009, 11:00 AM

Is it a 2nd in 09 or 10?

Flames Draft Watcher · 03-04-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Coug555

Is it a 2nd in 09 or 10?

Montreal's 2nd in '09 I believe.

Philadelphia Flames · 03-04-2009, 11:02 AM

HAHA this is like a trade I do in fantasy hockey. Pick a guy off waivers or free agency and trade him to another team.

saillias · 03-04-2009, 11:02 AM

I wonder what was going through the head of Colorado's GM.

"Hey Giguere, we're interested in Leopold"

"Well Sutter he's a valuable commodity and we're expecting a big return, how about a 2nd, a prospect and Lombardi"

"No, the guy you want is Wilson. Leading scorer on the Flames. And Nycholat. Leading scorer on the Flames."

"But you just picked him-"

"LEADING SCORER ON THE FLAMES. TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT"

"...Done!"

PeterTheGreat · 03-04-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Pure

No man this is an excellent deal for Calgary. The only logic I see for Giguere is tanking. This isn't selling, this is giving players away.

We got a 2nd round pick. What did you want, a 1st for a UFA to be Leopold who has been pretty bad the last month or so?

**DBU** · 03-04-2009, 11:02 AM

This is AWESOME!

Fowla10 · 03-04-2009, 11:06 AM

I'm surprised the Av's couldn't more than a second, a prospect, and a guy they passed on through waivers for Leopold... Maybe Sutter was playing NHL 09, picked up a player off waivers, traded him and thought.. hey why not give it a go in the big league???

Qubax · 03-04-2009, 11:07 AM

Great trade.....if we add Jokinen as well we are going to be a serious contender....

Cappie2k2 · 03-04-2009, 11:07 AM

Lawrence Nycholat, Ryan Wilson, and a second round draft pick was what rotoworld is reporting flames gave up.

quat · 03-04-2009, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pure

Giguere should be fired, RIGHT NOW.

O man, I don't think the Avs can win another game this year.

Wait... you they still have four games against the Canucks. Those usually count in the win column.

Blatherblah · 03-04-2009, 11:09 AM

No cap issues? Even if not, how would the Flames afford Jokinen?