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[ANA/BOS] Nokelainen for Montador

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03-04-2009, 12:56 PM
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The guy gives 110% every shift, will go to high traffic areas, will hit anything that moves, and be defensively responsible. Not every player on the team has to score 30 goals...

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03-04-2009, 12:57 PM
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Great trade for Boston. Montador has SC Final experience and you can never have enough defense.

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you have to understand two things: towards the end of the season we ran out of gas, we need an impact player, happy to have another 3rd pairing d-man, doesn't solve a problem of low goal-scoring or PP-q-back offensive d-man, if neither, and his name is not Pronger...I could care less.

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03-04-2009, 12:59 PM
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Good move by Boston. I was hoping the Flyers would've acquired him.

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03-04-2009, 01:00 PM
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The guy gives 110% every shift, will go to high traffic areas, will hit anything that moves, and be defensively responsible. Not every player on the team has to score 30 goals...

Boston has a lot of those, and if you ever need one, there's an expandable player like that on every NHL team, a ton of those in the AHL. Can be had for close to nothing...I am shocked the guy warranted a roster player in Montador. But like I said before, Boston needs a shake up of sorts.

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Boston is the perfect team for Monty.

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03-04-2009, 01:04 PM
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So Boston essentially traded Ben Walter (now age 24, nearly a point a game in the minors since then) and their 2nd round pick this year, for Montador. Still like the trade?

Maybe Garth Snow deserves more respect than he gets.

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03-04-2009, 01:07 PM
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nokie seemed like a good guy, would skate through a brick wall for a puck. to bad he is hurt a lot. i liked what i saw of montador vs the ducks last week. nokie can be replaced easily by a callup from providence where montador brings a bit a experience to the blue line. nice trade nothing huge but good roster move.

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03-04-2009, 01:16 PM
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nokelainen is a former 1st rounder whose development in NYI was hampered by injuries. He's sound defensively and doesn't mind entering the dirty areas on the ice. Not much offensive upside.
True, his main game is defense, but he has offensive skill aswell... He put up 8 points in 8 games last year in ahl. Its just that he has always played defensive roles.

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03-04-2009, 01:19 PM
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so this guy replaces Kunitz w/o the offensive touch?

and Ryan Whitney is supposed to replace Montador?

wow.

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So Boston essentially traded Ben Walter (now age 24, nearly a point a game in the minors since then) and their 2nd round pick this year, for Montador. Still like the trade?
Walter sucks, so it's a second for Montador. Not bad at all.

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03-04-2009, 01:56 PM
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so this guy replaces Kunitz w/o the offensive touch?

and Ryan Whitney is supposed to replace Montador?


wow.
Hopefully he will do a lot more than just "replace" Montador. He is a much better hockey player than Steve.

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03-04-2009, 02:03 PM
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Walter sucks, so it's a second for Montador. Not bad at all.
A second for Montador is not bad? In this deep draft? What do you other Bruins fans think?

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He sounds like Ryan Carter from the Ducks...Carter might have some more offensive skill though.

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03-04-2009, 02:06 PM
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What the heck? I think Nokelainen would have fetched something else, more valuable. What is Montador bringing to Boston that they dont already have?
Why would Nokelainen fetch more than a #5 defenseman who can also play wing in a pinch who plays tough, is reliable and knows a lot of players on the Bruins?

Nokie has gotten more than his fair share of chances. He can't stay healthy and when he is, he can't make a difference in Boston. He never found an identity for the Bruins.

It could work out for Anaheim because Nokie has skills. But Boston did well to get something for him because they haven't been able to get anything from him on the ice in a year.

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you have to understand two things: towards the end of the season we ran out of gas, we need an impact player, happy to have another 3rd pairing d-man, doesn't solve a problem of low goal-scoring or PP-q-back offensive d-man, if neither, and his name is not Pronger...I could care less.
And you would gladly give up Kessel, plus a Prospect, plus a 1st?

You're nuts! But that's why you're not the GM of the Bruins.

Recchi and Montador is a pretty sizeable improvement for the Bruins. We have our lefty winger for the PP(probably more important than anything else)...and so finally, thank god!, Axellson is off the hook for the PP.

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So Boston essentially traded Ben Walter (now age 24, nearly a point a game in the minors since then) and their 2nd round pick this year, for Montador. Still like the trade?

Maybe Garth Snow deserves more respect than he gets.
After just giving away Guerin for some stick tape, I take that back.

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I saw Boston and Anaheim, and was expecting something big.

Don't see the need for Montador... Same goes for Noke, though. He's the perfect 4th nliner, but we have pletny of those.

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Dang there goes our hugger, i mean fighter

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At first I wasn't sold on Montador (but still thought this was highway robbery by Chiarelli) but people here seem to love the guy. Gotta say I haven't watched too much of him, since the only times I've watched Ducks games I've focused on Pronger and Niedermayer.

If Anaheim was a great fit for him, Boston will be the perfect place since he can just go out and play with grit without worrying about too much else. I remember last year Bruins fans were upset that they traded for "just another depth defenseman" in Hnidy, but he has been one of their most consistent defensemen since day one and was an absolute rock in the playoffs last year.

People here keep citing Monty's willingness to drop the gloves, but from watching his last 4 fights I saw absolutely nothing to get excited about. In fact, his fighting ability kind of reminds me of Andrew Alberts.

If chemistry means anything, it'll be good to have Montador and Ference playing together. They both did the Right To Play work in Africa a few years back. If I recall correctly, Ference didn't really know Monty before the trip but they ended up pretty close by the end of the trip.

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So Boston essentially traded Ben Walter (now age 24, nearly a point a game in the minors since then) and their 2nd round pick this year, for Montador. Still like the trade?

Maybe Garth Snow deserves more respect than he gets.
ya, and maybe all trades should trades should be evaluted that way, right........

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A second for Montador is not bad? In this deep draft? What do you other Bruins fans think?
that your rationalization of the trade being boston's 2 for montador is a pretty freaking stupid way of looking at things.

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So Boston essentially traded Ben Walter (now age 24, nearly a point a game in the minors since then) and their 2nd round pick this year, for Montador. Still like the trade?

Maybe Garth Snow deserves more respect than he gets.
Where is walter???

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Montador was a good team guy for Anaheim and really became the 3rd most reliable defenseman on the team after November. Losing him will hurt our chances of making the playoffs. Extemely hard worker, physical, and decent skater.

His biggest flaw is he's terrible with the puck, he can shoot, but ask him to pass and it will be a turnover 9 out of 10 times. It caused the team to take a lot of transition penalties.

He was a UFA and was going to test the market. He'll probably get a huge raise from 800k.

I'm suprised the ducks couldn't do better for Montador though, it sounds like the guy they got back is a primo bust.

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So Boston essentially traded Ben Walter (now age 24, nearly a point a game in the minors since then) and their 2nd round pick this year, for Montador. Still like the trade?

Maybe Garth Snow deserves more respect than he gets.
Congratulations.

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