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[NYR/TOR] Antropov to Rangers for 2nd + conditional 2010 pick

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03-04-2009, 10:54 PM
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it's not humble pie its economics, read and learn:
Then how come its not effecting every team?

Cant say its Canada, considering the power moves the Flames made.

You can dust off the excuse book, fan it by its spine, lick your finger, and point at the next phrase you want to try and defend this non return, it wont work.

Nik was worth two picks, one conditional.
Not a first.


Humble pie?

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Your right, it didnt.

Here you have a team (Leafs) who many from its fanbase made its players that were availible (Ant, Kaberle) out to be these huge difference makers, and expected prime returns for them, which, from the obvious throw away draft pick or conditional two, didnt, and never would have happened outside the newest yearly hockey simulator on most popular gaming systems.

How could any fan, respectable, intelligent fan, comprehend that a top prospect and first round pick is suitable reward for a player whose own GM threw under the bus a couple weeks ago?

This is classic, green giant corn in the big, family sized can.

There were how many threads made for the over valued return of Andropoff?

Hundreds? Littering this board with every fanboi rah rah, and statsistics that obviously didnt matter when Burke swallowed his pride, cleared his throat, and agreed to a second rounder, a late second rounder possibly, and the irrelivant conditional pick, for the player Leaf fans here were making out to be a world beating, generational talent who not only puts up almost a point a game on a woefull team, but also plays "tough"? Not understanding, not one bit, IF IF IF, this guy was that good, he would be a piece to build this dreadful team around, instead of returning invisible question marks that might, or might not, pan out.

I ask all Leaf fans to use this template in invisible hype, hone it into your minds, and please, dont do it again.

Humble pie, have a slice.
You can read my other response to you below for a bit of a wake up call for yourself. There were many threads about Antropov this is true although your ridiculous hundreds is a little over the top. Guess what? Many were started by other teams and not the leafs. Wow who would have thought. I think it says a lot of Nik that he put up almost a point a game on in your words a woefull team. Imagine if he had a good supporting cast. You'd assume he would only do better. Oh and stumpy he does play tough. If you are a rangers fan you will get to see that now. If you aren't you'll probably go on with your lack of knowledge of him. If you want your opinion to ever be taken seriously on the boards use the players name. Use that as a template for the future, hone it into your mind and please don't do it again. There are many leafs fans that do over value their players but that could also be said about every team on the boards. We simply have a lot more of them posting and leafs fans are just as likely to bash them as anyone else. You simply like to take what one fan posted and generalize to an entire fan base. For futur reference 1fan does not equal it's base. That's a little simple math for you. You also show your lack of any common sense with your throw away pic comment. A second is a good pic. Obviously we hoped for more but it's not a throw away. It's also not a late 2nd as you like to say. The rangers are a fringe team fighting for a playoff spot so it could end up being pretty high. Really think when you posting don't just post.

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Then you obviously havent read any of the trade senarios that centered around big Nik on these boards, LOL.

Seriously, if the Leaf players played defense as good as Leaf fans defend their typed fluffer on this board, the Leafs would be Cup contenders year in and year out.
troll. ignore.

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troll. ignore.
yeah I think i may follow suit tomorrow.

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Then you obviously havent read any of the trade senarios that centered around big Nik on these boards, LOL.

Seriously, if the Leaf players played defense as good as Leaf fans defend their typed fluffer on this board, the Leafs would be Cup contenders year in and year out.
just out of curiousity who is your team. You seem to have a lot to add but don't seem to be a fan of either team.

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Oh yah, it's not Nik, it's economics. You know, like that first rounder thrown around in the Ottawa trade. Oh wait...

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That's when I stopped reading.

If you're going to insult the collective intelligence of a fanbase, at least try to use proper grammar. Two can play at this game.
hahaha same

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Oh yah, it's not Nik, it's economics. You know, like that first rounder thrown around in the Ottawa trade. Oh wait...
of your 6000 posts have any of them been useful?

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I wish Nik all the best in New York. He's been one of the brighter lights in leafland the last few seasons and seems to be on a slow but steady road to improvement. I hoped he'd end up on a team i can cheer for and he did.

Had hoped Burke would get a prospect with some developement time under his belt rather than a pick or picks but no such luck.

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Every fanbase has its nutcases. But only further nutcases look at those and think that those people are normal. No proper frame of reference, you see.

Hope Burke can get value out of those picks. I want a successful TML, damnit - maybe then folks will stop pestering us about Nash.

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03-04-2009, 11:32 PM
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This is my favourite thread:

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=611334

Eklund: Canucks prospect plus 1st for Antropov

Leafs fans: we'll get a first, so a prospect will just be icing on the cake, muhahaha

Canucks fans: you guys are guys are crazy.

We get warmed up with this:
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Gillis has already said he's not trading Hodgson, Schneider, or their first round pick for a rental.
Supported by Canucks fans and trashed by everyone else. "Yeah, like no GM has ever lied ." And what happened?

Some great posts:

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I still don't understand how people don't think Nikolai is worth a first round pick. Precedence shows that a 55+ forward who is big and useful on the powerplay when it comes to comanding a big presence around the net. He will get a first round pick in the 15-25 range. Stop overvaluing picks so highly. No guarantee that the pick will be an NHLer theres something like a 60 percent chance that they can pan out. See TSN Scott Cullens draft pick page. Id prefer seeing Antropov in Pittsburgh both teams make good trading partners. Bottomline Antropov is worth a first round pick and thats just the starting price, with the premium of this years deadline and the competition going on in the west dont be surprised to see even better returns coming back for Nikolai's services.
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Antropov played extremely well last night and has stepped up his game since Burkie called him out a while back! I wonder who the prospect is along with the first? Think this would work

To Van:
C/RW, Nik Antropov

To Tor:
D, Taylor Ellington
1st in 09'?
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If Dainius Zubrus could get a first round pick in 2007 then Antropov certainly could get a first round pick.
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Someone is going to panic and agree to this [first plus prospect]. I don't know if it's Vancouver, but the Canucks are certainly pulling away from the pack in the West and can probably start turning their attention to "things we need to do to improve our chances in the playoffs.
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gotta love Canucks fans.

here their team is looking great with the mats addition, and is looking to contend this year with a very good team....

....and all they care about is a late 1st round pick, who MIGHT turn out to be a decent NHler in 4 or 5 years.

so weird.

this game is about winning the Stanley Cup, not about having the best prospects.
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he'll easily get a 1st rounder from whatever team wants to add the best available forward at the deadline.

if the Canucks want to let him pass, and not try to make their team as good as possible for a cup run this year, after making a big play for Sundin and with most every one of their key players a UFA this offseason....well, that's up to them.

enjoy the B prospect you get from this late 1st round pick instead - he might turn out to be an average NHLer in 4 or 5 years, if you're lucky.
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why do VAN fans hate TOR so much... Antropov will get a 1st or a 1st like trade 2nd+worthy prospect or a prospect worth a 1st something like this.. and man if it does all you will see is half the people saying o told you so and the other half WTH over value... just look at trades so far... Antropov can get a 1st like deal...
and as for playoffs guy hasnt been in playoffs from 2004.. think maybe JUST MAYBE theirs a chance his game has grown form then like his reg season stats have?
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The only thing worse than eklund is all the people in this thread saying that there is no way that Antropov will land a 1st rounder when it's pretty probable.
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Quite a statement from somebody who doesn't know much about Nikolai Antropov.

If Danius Zubrus was traded for a 1st, Antropov is easily worth a 1st.
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Antropov >>>>> Comrie

For those who don't think he'll get a 1st.

Antropov should recieve a better package than Comrie IMO.


AND LADIES AND GENTLEMAN, MY PERSONAL FAVOURITE:

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Antropov is a serious upgrade on either Burrows or Kesler.


I stopped at halfway through the thread.

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Yup, people were posting based on 2008. But it's 2009, the economy is in the toiler and it was a buyers market on trade deadline. Seriously, the trade deadline was a dud. Don't point the finger at Antropov.

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of your 6000 posts have any of them been useful?
Nope, he was crying on the Canucks board because he couldn't troll the leaf trades today.

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Nope, he was crying on the Canucks board because he couldn't troll the leaf trades today.
After 6 months of Leaf fans' filth over saturating this forum with bloated expectations and condescending opinions, I will admit, this turn of events was quite satisfying.

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After 6 months of Leaf fans' filth over saturating this forum with bloated expectations and condescending opinions, I will admit, this turn of events was quite satisfying.
I'll admit when Hodgson dosen't become a 50 goal, 100 point, defensive specialist i'll be fairly happy.

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There is some seriously good comedy in this thread. LOL

Of course, the idea that a mediocre slug such as Antropov would return a first rounder was ludicrous to most of us, but its always interesting to see who comes clean and admits they were wrong, and who feeds out the excuses.


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There is some seriously good comedy in this thread. LOL

Of course, the idea that a mediocre slug such as Antropov would return a first rounder was ludicrous to most of us, but its always interesting to see who comes clean and admits they were wrong, and who feeds out the excuses.

I will admit that I thought he would get a late first. But I also thought Moore would get a third or less, so it made up for it.

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I stopped at halfway through the thread.
thankfully, for everyone, you had taken enough notes to that point. virgin

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I can remember when HF was thee place to come and indulge in intelligent hockey discussion.
Unfortunately in the last 3 years its more akin to a playschool. Perhaps another site will start up and offer us adults a better option.

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He's the only player I wanted the Rangers to get and I jumped 10 feet in the air when they announced on TSN he was traded to the Rangers

We better resign him though.

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Wait, so you are surprised?

I love when stupid people try to make people look stupid.
LOL careful how that applies

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After 6 months of Leaf fans' filth over saturating this forum with bloated expectations and condescending opinions, I will admit, this turn of events was quite satisfying.
as satisfying as watching the hole deadline with the rumours of JayBo to Van and what did you get to see? Nothing. So now you come on the boards looking to make noise about the leafs. Maybe next year you'll be able to talk about your own team on deadline day.

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He's the only player I wanted the Rangers to get and I jumped 10 feet in the air when they announced on TSN he was traded to the Rangers

We better resign him though.
There are a lot of worse ways to spend money. Not sure how much spare change you guys will have to play with next season. Hope Nik helps this season at least.

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It's funny how majority of Leafs fans were overrating Antropov, claiming he was worth a roster player plus a 1st rounder. LOL
Is it? Is it really funny? Hmmm....funny, isn't it, how <insert team here> fans overate <insert player from their favourite team>, claiming they are worth a roster player plus a 1st rounder, <insert other asinine remarks>. LOL

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There are a lot of worse ways to spend money. Not sure how much spare change you guys will have to play with next season. Hope Nik helps this season at least.
Yea...well we couldnt afford to give up prospects/players for a Gaborik or whatever...Nik was in the second tier that I was hoping for. Scoring and size. Something we lack big time.

I hope hes not expecting 4 million or something though next season..

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