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03-03-2009, 04:04 PM
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Erika-The way your precious SK has been playing in Hamilton I think you might have to eat some crow also or maybe join another board after Wednesday.

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Erika- You need to incorporate that "Here to Help" emoticon into your avatar. Also, I can't see SKost coming back up anytime soon, reports say he looks like ass.

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I think that the problem with chip is not his skill or even his skating compare him to BGL wow he is 100% better then him I think its a personality conflict between him and Carbo, Gainey, always seem to say good things about Chip but foe some reason Carbo doesn't give him any confidence or should say has taken all his confidence away now whem he gets back down to Hamilton he will play awesome hockey for Lever, I wish that Gainey would move him Wednesday.

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One things for sure, there's going to be a lot of people eating crow within say 2 years or so in regards to Chipchura, one way or another. I hope it's not me, not a big fan of eating crow. We'll see where he's at next year.
It's not too bad actually but you have to soak it in brine at least 24hrs first.

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OMG i said something about Ribeiro more than 3 years ago (http://www.rds.ca/canadien/talkbacks/185513/81818.html) Reminds me of Chips

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I don't think Chipchura is part of the Habs plans down the road
Sadly, I think you're right. I can't understand why this kid hasn't been given any real chance...

Next year is make or break. If he doesn't make the roster, he'll be dealt and there are tons of teams that would love to have this guy. Unfortunately though, I see him being dealt in the summer.

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Sadly, I think you're right. I can't understand why this kid hasn't been given any real chance...

Next year is make or break. If he doesn't make the roster, he'll be dealt and there are tons of teams that would love to have this guy. Unfortunately though, I see him being dealt in the summer.
Lapierre really proved to be a better player. He's just as big but much faster and plays much better at the NHL level, especially this year. The plan I suppose was to have Chipchura as a 3rd line defensive specialist center and Lapierre as a 4th line energy center. Lapierre took the 3rd line spot (proving he is more than an energy player) and Chipchura hasn't shown any use as a energy player at the NHL level (Lapierre did immediately after his 1st call up).

My point is : Lapierre can be a serviceable 3rd line center and a good 4th line center. Chipchura is kind of wasted as a 4th line center and isn't better than Lapierre as a 3rd line center. Considering Gainey tries to have 3 lines with offensive upside (something Chipchura hasn't shown in the NHL) his future seems to be limited in that way.

For his own sake he should be traded to a team who needs a player like him that can afford to develop him (we don't, our center depth doesn't allow us to have a rookie shut down center in the lineup).

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Lapierre really proved to be a better player. He's just as big but much faster and plays much better at the NHL level, especially this year. The plan I suppose was to have Chipchura as a 3rd line defensive specialist center and Lapierre as a 4th line energy center. Lapierre took the 3rd line spot (proving he is more than an energy player) and Chipchura hasn't shown any use as a energy player at the NHL level (Lapierre did immediately after his 1st call up).

My point is : Lapierre can be a serviceable 3rd line center and a good 4th line center. Chipchura is kind of wasted as a 4th line center and isn't better than Lapierre as a 3rd line center. Considering Gainey tries to have 3 lines with offensive upside (something Chipchura hasn't shown in the NHL) his future seems to be limited in that way.
I think there's room for both of these guys... its not a "one or the other" situation.

Anyways, I think you're right he won't fit in and he'll be dealt. He'll never be a superstar but I think he'll be a solid player somewhere.

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I think there's room for both of these guys... its not a "one or the other" situation.

Anyways, I think you're right he won't fit in and he'll be dealt. He'll never be a superstar but I think he'll be a solid player somewhere.
Not when one of them is masquerading as a center, with his 40% face-off percentage and all.

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Not when one of them is masquerading as a center, with his 40% face-off percentage and all.
Could Chipchura be useful as a winger? Somehow I think a Latendresse-Lapierre-Chipchura could be decent. While Lapierre's "playmaking" skills are better than they used to be (he used to rush his plays), Chipchura (who plays more of a center game) could play center after the faceoff is taken.

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Lapierre really proved to be a better player. He's just as big but much faster and plays much better at the NHL level, especially this year. The plan I suppose was to have Chipchura as a 3rd line defensive specialist center and Lapierre as a 4th line energy center. Lapierre took the 3rd line spot (proving he is more than an energy player) and Chipchura hasn't shown any use as a energy player at the NHL level (Lapierre did immediately after his 1st call up).

My point is : Lapierre can be a serviceable 3rd line center and a good 4th line center. Chipchura is kind of wasted as a 4th line center and isn't better than Lapierre as a 3rd line center. Considering Gainey tries to have 3 lines with offensive upside (something Chipchura hasn't shown in the NHL) his future seems to be limited in that way.

For his own sake he should be traded to a team who needs a player like him that can afford to develop him (we don't, our center depth doesn't allow us to have a rookie shut down center in the lineup).
Chipchura has better hockey sense, vision, and poise with the puck than Lapierre. Chipchura just needs the same opportunity that Lapierre was given in terms of ice-time. Don't forget that Lapierre was a healthy scratch for a couple of games just 2 or 3 months ago.

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Could Chipchura be useful as a winger? Somehow I think a Latendresse-Lapierre-Chipchura could be decent. While Lapierre's "playmaking" skills are better than they used to be (he used to rush his plays), Chipchura (who plays more of a center game) could play center after the faceoff is taken.
That would involve him getting 3rd line ice-time, which is too much for him. I'd rather see Higgins on a line with Lapierre and Lats.

His only chance is to put away the cigarettes, improve his weak skating, learn how to take a faceoff, and play Metropolit off the team during training camp. That's literally his only chance at a spot in the starting lineup.

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I consider Chipchura to be key if we plan on making a serious run without Lang. The reality is we need a big centerman who can make offensive plays. God bless the metropolits of the world, but the guy is undersized, and can't make offensive plays. Chipchura is certainly a defensive minded player, but he is also a guy who can make a nice pass, and shoot the puck and pick a corner. he may be in Hamilton now, but I'm hoping he gets a shot, and runs with it by playoff time. One of the issues this team has, is that we have about 10 quality NHL wingers, and 8 of them are top 3 line caliber. But we only have 2 centers who can play an offensive game, and a 3rd centerman in Lapierre, who is most effective on a 4th line. Chipchura like Lapierre, can contribute with timely offense, provides some grit, and plays a strong defensive game. I also see chips as a guy who would step it up and succeed in a playoff type game. If he gets that chance the lines I'd like to see would be:

Tanguay-Plekanec-Kovalev
Higgins-Koivu-Kostitsyn
Latendresse-Lapierre-Kostopoulos
Pacioretty-Chipchura-D'Agostini

The 3rd line would be reuniting a line that was good for us before Lats went down, and the 4th line a kid line, but if Carbo feels more comfortable having a vet with Chips and Pac, flip Kosto and D'Ago. Also all 4 LW can be moved around to switch things up if needed, though I'd keep Tanguay with either Pleks or Koivu...

Ideally Lang would come back playoff time and pick up where he left off, but if not, I hope we give chips a chance.

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I consider Chipchura to be key if we plan on making a serious run without Lang. The reality is we need a big centerman who can make offensive plays. God bless the metropolits of the world, but the guy is undersized, and can't make offensive plays. Chipchura is certainly a defensive minded player, but he is also a guy who can make a nice pass, and shoot the puck and pick a corner. he may be in Hamilton now, but I'm hoping he gets a shot, and runs with it by playoff time. One of the issues this team has, is that we have about 10 quality NHL wingers, and 8 of them are top 3 line caliber. But we only have 2 centers who can play an offensive game, and a 3rd centerman in Lapierre, who is most effective on a 4th line. Chipchura like Lapierre, can contribute with timely offense, provides some grit, and plays a strong defensive game. I also see chips as a guy who would step it up and succeed in a playoff type game. If he gets that chance the lines I'd like to see would be:

Tanguay-Plekanec-Kovalev
Higgins-Koivu-Kostitsyn
Latendresse-Lapierre-Kostopoulos
Pacioretty-Chipchura-D'Agostini

The 3rd line would be reuniting a line that was good for us before Lats went down, and the 4th line a kid line, but if Carbo feels more comfortable having a vet with Chips and Pac, flip Kosto and D'Ago. Also all 4 LW can be moved around to switch things up if needed, though I'd keep Tanguay with either Pleks or Koivu...

Ideally Lang would come back playoff time and pick up where he left off, but if not, I hope we give chips a chance.
You are talking about Kyle Chipchura right?

I don't mean to pick your post appart because you have some good points but offensive upside?

I don't remember the last time I saw Chipchura take a shot on net or make a dangerous pass in the offensive zone, let alone get an assist or a goal.

Some people actually think Chipchura is better offensively than Lapierre?

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Chipchura has better hockey sense, vision, and poise with the puck than Lapierre. Chipchura just needs the same opportunity that Lapierre was given in terms of ice-time. Don't forget that Lapierre was a healthy scratch for a couple of games just 2 or 3 months ago.
I'm still wainting to see that in the NHL... so far Lapierre is better than him in all categories you mentionned...

Chipchura so far seems to not be able to translate his success in the AHL to the NHL... it might be because the level talent is just to high for him...

He might become a usefull nhler one day, but so far, considering his middle of the 1st round selection, he's definitely a bust...

He looks a lot like Ryan White, but at least, White was a 3rd round selection...

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I consider Chipchura to be key if we plan on making a serious run without Lang. The reality is we need a big centerman who can make offensive plays. God bless the metropolits of the world, but the guy is undersized, and can't make offensive plays. Chipchura is certainly a defensive minded player, but he is also a guy who can make a nice pass, and shoot the puck and pick a corner. he may be in Hamilton now, but I'm hoping he gets a shot, and runs with it by playoff time. One of the issues this team has, is that we have about 10 quality NHL wingers, and 8 of them are top 3 line caliber. But we only have 2 centers who can play an offensive game, and a 3rd centerman in Lapierre, who is most effective on a 4th line. Chipchura like Lapierre, can contribute with timely offense, provides some grit, and plays a strong defensive game. I also see chips as a guy who would step it up and succeed in a playoff type game. If he gets that chance the lines I'd like to see would be:

Tanguay-Plekanec-Kovalev
Higgins-Koivu-Kostitsyn
Latendresse-Lapierre-Kostopoulos
Pacioretty-Chipchura-D'Agostini

The 3rd line would be reuniting a line that was good for us before Lats went down, and the 4th line a kid line, but if Carbo feels more comfortable having a vet with Chips and Pac, flip Kosto and D'Ago. Also all 4 LW can be moved around to switch things up if needed, though I'd keep Tanguay with either Pleks or Koivu...

Ideally Lang would come back playoff time and pick up where he left off, but if not, I hope we give chips a chance.
Then the season is already over, because he can't follow the NHL pace...

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I'm still wainting to see that in the NHL... so far Lapierre is better than him in all categories you mentionned...

Chipchura so far seems to not be able to translate his success in the AHL to the NHL... it might be because the level talent is just to high for him...

He might become a usefull nhler one day, but so far, considering his middle of the 1st round selection, he's definitely a bust...

He looks a lot like Ryan White, but at least, White was a 3rd round selection...
Agreed. The reason for his inability to translate his success to the NHL as you put it could be lack of foot-speed. Huge difference between the AHL and NHL in terms of speed of the game. It's much much faster.

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You are talking about Kyle Chipchura right?

I don't mean to pick your post appart because you have some good points but offensive upside?

I don't remember the last time I saw Chipchura take a shot on net or make a dangerous pass in the offensive zone, let alone get an assist or a goal.

Some people actually think Chipchura is better offensively than Lapierre?
This year he's not looked comfortable, but last year during his time here, he did make some nice passes, and score a couple of goals on nice shots. He has the ability, he's shown it in the AHL as well, he just needs to get comfortable again. If not, then i'd try Higgins at center again, more than anything, I just don't see us doing any damage with Metro playing...

Chips doesn't have offensive upside like a Pacioretty or anything, but he does have more offensive upside than Begin did, or Matro has. And that's what we need given our depth on the wing IMO...

and if that means the season is over already, then I guess it is...

We aren't winning anything with Metro.

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Chipchura >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Metro.

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This year he's not looked comfortable, but last year during his time here, he did make some nice passes, and score a couple of goals on nice shots. He has the ability, he's shown it in the AHL as well, he just needs to get comfortable again. If not, then i'd try Higgins at center again, more than anything, I just don't see us doing any damage with Metro playing...

and if that means the season is over already, then I guess it is...
We shouldn't rely on the 4th line to win games and that's the problem with Carbonneau... 3rd and 4th liners should play a minimal role, but with him, they're almost as important than the best players on this team...

Role players prevent you from losing games... Star players help you win them! Huge difference, but Carbonneau doesn't realize that...

Yesterday, the role players were the ones who cost you the game and the "star" players didn't help you win it...

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Chipchura >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Metro.
Chipchura isn't even good enough to stick on an NHL roster as a spare part as this point, so I seriously doubt he's better than anyone on the team right now.

What a complete bust. Slow, lacks intensity, can't win faceoffs. He'll make one heck of a career AHL'er though.

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Chipchura >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Metro.
Yeah WeThreeErika... we know you love Chipchura...

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Chipchura isn't even good enough to stick on an NHL roster as a spare part as this point, so I seriously doubt he's better than anyone on the team right now.

What a complete bust. Slow, lacks intensity, can't win faceoffs. He'll make one heck of a career AHL'er though.
Even if everything you said about him was true.. He never once stood beside a player in the slot and allowed him to score on a one-timer. Which Metropolit has done three times in three games with us.

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Yeah WeThreeErika... we know you love Chipchura...
I don't love him at all. I think he's got an upside to be a good bottom line player. Not in agreeance with the pick over Mike Green in that draft, but you gotta live with it. But I do think he's better than Metropolit. Who sucks ass.

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