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03-06-2009, 09:48 PM
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Do you think this team will ALWAYS hire francophone-only coaches?(or bilingual)

I'm not trying to start a language debate...

I'm just saying...

IMO, we're in big trouble if we have to limit our choices to francophone-only head coaches.

I look at a guy like Peter Laviolette and I think he'd be a great coach for us.

What's your opinion on the matter?

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How many replies before this gets out of hand and is closed? Topic seems to be a little too sensitive.

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How many replies before this gets out of hand and is closed?
I'd like an honest, clean discussion on the matter...but you're probably right.

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How many replies before this gets out of hand and is closed? Topic seems to be a little too sensitive.
We should make at least 5

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If you could only pick your forwards from Sweden would you being doing your team and fans a service?

This isn't a question of the ability of French coaches, as there are many capable and great ones. It's a question of limiting your options. You should surround yourself with the best, whether they're from Gatineau or Mars.

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I wish we still had Pat Burns. Too bad he's ill.

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I had this discussion with my mom the other day.

It's kind of why we will always be doomed to have 2nd-rate and or Rookie coaches.

It's our Achilles heal.


We need a team in Quebec City again.

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I'd like an honest, clean discussion on the matter...but you're probably right.
Lets hope for the best.

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I'm not trying to start a language debate...

I'm just saying...

IMO, we're in big trouble if we have to limit our choices to francophone-only head coaches.

I look at a guy like Peter Laviolette and I think he'd be a great coach for us.

What's your opinion on the matter?
"Laviolette" sounds french

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I hope not. We had some great english coaches in our history.

And if the best candidate available doesn't speak French, well, too bad for the complainers.

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Who is out there right now? Hartley, Demers, Quinn, Nolan . I dont know if anything I think Gainey would take over the team for the rest of the season.

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Count me in the Pete Laviolette bandwagon. I just want to win! I don't give a **** about anything else anymore. Besides, the coach can always go through a crash course in french during the process. Who cares if his french sucks, just look at Demers/Perron...

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You should surround yourself with the best, whether they're from Gatineau or Mars.
exactly.

That's why I feel we're in big trouble if we have to limit ourselves to francophone-only coaches.

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Well, when we had english coaches, there wasn't the mandatory press meeting after every game.

I, for one, would really like Ted Nolan behind the bench in Montreal.

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03-06-2009, 10:14 PM
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I'm not trying to start a language debate...

I'm just saying...

IMO, we're in big trouble if we have to limit our choices to francophone-only head coaches.

I look at a guy like Peter Laviolette and I think he'd be a great coach for us.

What's your opinion on the matter?
history says yes .....no chance in heck of a pure anglo ....and if your guy "Laviolette" wants the gig behind the bench in Montreal then he better under stand "Parle vous Francais" or take some courses on how to understand it and speak it ...... fast

way its going in Montreal ,he wouldnt have time to learn it before he was fired


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I hate it but the media would go absolutely crazy if we had a coach that didn't speak French. They would create an outrage and a lot of "fans" that only watch RDS and RIS would join the bandwagon.

It's sad and incredibly stupid but that's the truth. People here are racist (bigots? I don't know which term applies) for stupid reasons.

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03-06-2009, 10:23 PM
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Well, when we had english coaches, there wasn't the mandatory press meeting after every game.

I, for one, would really like Ted Nolan behind the bench in Montreal.


keep coming back to the same thing . Teddy 0 chance due to no french skills


you got a better chance of winning lotto 649 than Ted ever as coach of Montreal .

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Playing in Montreal is different. Its the only franchise that has fans of 2 different languages. Everything the habs do has to cater to both languages. Im sure its extremely hard to please everyone. Because of that, although I dont necessarily agree with it, I think its easiest for everyone if there is a french canadian coach. Promotional stuff, interviews, press conferences. Its just the way it is i guess. We are different from every other team in the league. I guess where some franchises have other things to deal with, such as attendance, we have our own issues, which is catering to fans in 2 different languages in a province where french mostly dominates english. It will always cause debate, from french coaches to french players. Its just something that we have to deal with. Its kind of our identity maybe?

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if your limiting your selection to bilingual coaches then you have bob hartley,denis savard,michel therrien,benoit groulx and possibly guy boucher as an option if hes willing

their are a couple coaches id take ahead of laviolette, like quinn,nolan and deffinately tom renney

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if your limiting your selection to bilingual coaches then you have bob hartley,denis savard,michel therrien,benoit groulx and possibly guy boucher as an option if hes willing

their are a couple coaches id take ahead of laviolette, like quinn,nolan and deffinately tom renney
why?

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03-06-2009, 10:32 PM
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Where is the poll? Would be nice to see what resulting the voting would get us.

We should hire the best available coach. That should be the ultimate criteria when thinking of hiring a coach.

To answer your question directly, yes I believe it is an important criteria for the big shots running the habs. It is unfortunate that language/culture/heritage/race etc comes is a factor but it is.

I really think it is a miracle Bob Gainey an Anglophone is the GM, it is very unlikely that with the advent of the Quiet Revolution and the emancipation of the French Canadian peoples in Quebec that Anglophones will ever be seriously represented, in a level of Government, Civil Service, Police Force, Hockey Club, Education etc. Quebec is Quebec.

Bill 101, Government, Everyday everything has made Quebec a purely uni-lingual Francophone State/Nation/"Province" that is the reality of the situation and it is clearly reflected on all levels. Jobs, Hockey teams, Government etc etc etc

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if your limiting your selection to bilingual coaches then you have bob hartley,denis savard,michel therrien,benoit groulx and possibly guy boucher as an option if hes willing

their are a couple coaches id take ahead of laviolette, like quinn,nolan and deffinately tom renney
Nolan wears out his welcome too quickly. He doesn't bring stability. Renney is a good coach, but he's a better assistant. He's another defensive coach, and that's just not a style that suits our players. Plus, he's another "players' coach." The only way Renney is an upgrade on Carbo is that he would actually make good tactical decisions.

Laviolette, on the other hand, would be great if he could employ the system he did in Carolina. This team doesn't know to sit back. They should be constantly attacking and forechecking. No more of this defensive crap.

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Well, as long as they hire the best coach, I'm fine. I don't care if he speaks french or not.

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Well, as long as they hire the best coach, I'm fine. I don't care if he speaks french or not.
sadly, francophone is the first requirement in Montreal
second requirement, is being coach

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Well, as long as they hire the best coach, I'm fine. I don't care if he speaks french or not.
Same, but the problem is some people do care. And because of that, the team is forced to hire coaches who speak french, regardless if they are the best option at the time. It will most likely always be like that.

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