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03-05-2009, 09:37 PM
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Are people disappointed with Marc Staal or something? What did everyone expect at this point?

And yeah, Malone is one of my favorite players (I got customized Ryan Malone Pens jersey early in his rookie year), but he's not worth Marc Staal...

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03-05-2009, 09:58 PM
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Why does everyone believe him on this account?
Not sure that everyone does, to be honest.

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Brooks and Eklund both write whatever trade they dreamed up and claim its from "a source".

Someone's about to make a big move with some other team. No details yet but stay tuned! Anyone want to pay me for this insight?

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I think he needed to make sure he tied New York and Tampa together in a trade so he could get Tortorella's opinion and a few memorable quotes.

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03-05-2009, 11:11 PM
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for the people saying Brooks is a bad journalists, you guys need to learn a bit about jobs/careers where you have to market something/yourself.

He isn't accurate is a better way of describing Brooks, but as far as being a journalist, he is a smart one. He gets his name out there and people talking about his articles. Generates more interest, thus, he will get paid more, because his articles get read. No one cares why, as long as people are giving hits to their site/ buying their newspaper/magazine to read what he has written. He generates cash for his employer, and in return, his employer gives him job security and a higher wage.

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03-06-2009, 12:13 AM
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I would imagine almost every trade proposal starts out with a rip off similar to that.

Sometimes it works...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1849525
I'm pretty sure you kind of took this deal out of context...Kazmir wasn't a proven all-star then...

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03-06-2009, 01:16 AM
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you mean to say Tampa wanted something of great value for one of their best players if they were going to trade him? wow they are jokes ....

Its simple...they didnt want to trade Malone...so they asked for the moon..if they got it great...if not then no harm no foul.

most of you people need to get a better hobby than jumping on the bash the lightning for no real reason bandwagon.

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03-06-2009, 01:21 AM
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I would imagine almost every trade proposal starts out with a rip off similar to that.

Sometimes it works...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1849525
Braydon Coburn for Alexei Zhitnik at the deadline in 2007 might be a better example. well in the NHL anyway

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A few years ago Phil Esposito was going around and pushing his book.He gave great insight into how some deals are made. He said was dealing with one team and was offered a great deal on a real good player and he thought to himself it was too good of a deal and turned it down. He figured that there was something wrong with the player. The player got delt a few days later in what was viewed as hiway robbery and everyone was right as the player went onto be the best player on that team for awhile. Awhile later, Espo ran into the GM of the team and asked why he gave that player away. What had happened was that the player got drunk at ateam function at the owners house at "went number 2" in a priceless vase. The owner found out about it and ordered the player traded right away---didn't care what the GM got for him. The GM thought the owners would cool down, only to get a phone call from another GM asking him why the owner was calling him to make a deal and that is when the GM realized the owner s not joking.

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what on earth was Tampa thinking


its not like the rangers pay crazy high salaries for average players


what idiots

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Marc Staal is ridiculously overrated.
It's pretty obvious you have no idea what you're talking about.

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you mean to say Tampa wanted something of great value for one of their best players if they were going to trade him? wow they are jokes ....

Its simple...they didnt want to trade Malone...so they asked for the moon..if they got it great...if not then no harm no foul.

most of you people need to get a better hobby than jumping on the bash the lightning for no real reason bandwagon.
The story goes that Tampa is the team who proposed the trade, not the Rangers. Whether or not that's true, who knows.

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Marc Staal is ridiculously overrated.
I think the phrasing you used "ridiculously overrated" is too harsh, BUT, I agree somewhat with your statement. Mark Staal has 2 goals 10 assists and is a -3. He has one PP point. He is a "nice" defensive defenseman..that is all.

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According to Larry Brooks, Tampa proposed Ryan Malone for Marc Staal.
1. He's right in the sense that Malone was EXACTLY what the Rangers needed in the off-season... rather than Naslund. Big miss there.

2. While I wouldn't expect the Rangers to trade young Staal for Malone, let's stop thinking Staal is the next Messiah.

3. Do you actually think Tampa is going to simply hand over a rugged, tough winger who has proved he can score goals w/out Sidney Crosby?

4. Petr Prucha, Nigel Dawes, and a pick ain't gonna do it.

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All of the Staal's are overrated.

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What do you expect Tampa to ask for? Malone is a good power forward in his prime. He's only played 55 games because of injury and still has 22 goals this year, he's great in front of the net, he hits, he fights, he's a good leader.

I'm not sure why people think they should give him away for nothing. I don't think the value of him and Marc Staal is that different. I understand why both teams wouldn't do this deal though. If the NYR trade Marc Staal for Ryan Malone then they are just filling one hole, but creating another one and same with Tampa.

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I like to refer to that one as the day Christmas came 6 months early.

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Look at the two GMs that would have been involved, anything can happen with Sather and Lawton for chirst sakes.

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A few years ago Phil Esposito was going around and pushing his book.He gave great insight into how some deals are made. He said was dealing with one team and was offered a great deal on a real good player and he thought to himself it was too good of a deal and turned it down. He figured that there was something wrong with the player. The player got delt a few days later in what was viewed as hiway robbery and everyone was right as the player went onto be the best player on that team for awhile. Awhile later, Espo ran into the GM of the team and asked why he gave that player away. What had happened was that the player got drunk at ateam function at the owners house at "went number 2" in a priceless vase. The owner found out about it and ordered the player traded right away---didn't care what the GM got for him. The GM thought the owners would cool down, only to get a phone call from another GM asking him why the owner was calling him to make a deal and that is when the GM realized the owner s not joking.

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JT??

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The story goes that Tampa is the team who proposed the trade, not the Rangers. Whether or not that's true, who knows.
Um I know. That was my point.

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I would imagine almost every trade proposal starts out with a rip off similar to that.

Sometimes it works...

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1849525
Can we stop with the Kazmir trade!? My God, of all places...HF's rumors board!

The nightmare never ends.

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