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03-08-2009, 12:17 PM
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Question: Old-style goalie masks

I have a question for you guys: why old-style goalie masks aren't worn anymore in ice hockey (think Dryden, Cheevers).

Is there a way to get a accredited one to play in senior ice hockey league?


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03-08-2009, 12:27 PM
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I have a question for you guys: why old-style goalie masks aren't worn anymore in ice hockey (think Dryden, Cheevers).

Is there a way to get a accredited one to play in senior ice hockey league?

you would have to think with all the technolgy we got out there today someone could find a way to bolt one of these on to there existing goalie helmets.

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because the new style masks are better for vision, comfort and safety?

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Are you serious? I don't think you need to look a long time at them to know that they don't offer as much protection.

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Believe it or not, there is actually no rule in the NHL rulebook that stipulates that goalies even have to wear masks!

In terms of why these masks aren't worn, I think it has to do with safety and availability. Surely, when children are coming up and playing goal, their parents will not allow them to wear these relics when more proven and safer equipment is available. The kids get used to these masks, and use them as they grow older. In addition, you cannot even find these old goalie masks in stores anymore, so parents who prefer style over safety are out of luck as well. I'd also imagine that the amateur leagues have stricter rules about masks/helmets.

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03-08-2009, 01:53 PM
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These masks are flatter to the face so a puck would still bruise or bleed the face area and even concus them. Not to mention the sweating actor because it is so close to the face.

With a "Grandfathered" helmet rule I'm sure it falls under the same to goalies as well that they need to wear a helmet, these masks probably are CSA approved and that is why you don't see them either.

Close to this would be Tim Thomas, he has a cross version of this.

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Believe it or not, there is actually no rule in the NHL rulebook that stipulates that goalies even have to wear masks!
There is no rule they have to wear masks, but if their mask falls off in a game, the puck is dead?

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Believe it or not, there is actually no rule in the NHL rulebook that stipulates that goalies even have to wear masks!
No but there is a rule that all players, including goalies, must wear a helmet approved by the league. The goalie can also wear a mask that is approved by the league. For obvious reasons goalies typically opt for the mask over the helmet...

Rule 9.5:
All players of both teams shall wear a helmet of design, material and construction approved by the League at all times while participating in a game, either on the playing surface or the players’ or penalty benches.

When a goalkeeper has lost his helmet and/or face mask and his team has possession of the puck, the play shall be stopped immediately to allow the goalkeeper the opportunity to regain his helmet and/or face mask. When the opposing team has possession of the puck, play shall only be stopped if there is no immediate and impending scoring opportunity. This stoppage of play must be made by the Referee. When play is stopped because the goalkeeper has lost his helmet and/or face mask, the ensuing face-off shall take place at one of the defending team’s end zone face-off spots.

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They banned those from junior hockey in around 1979 or 1980... and this was around the time when Bernie Parent had a stick strike him through an eye hole, ending his career... in the early 1980s thus the movement towards the helmet and cage combinations caused the old masks to be infrequent - with the growing popularity of the hybrid masks ending them once and for all...

The last Stanley Cup winning goalie with such a mask I think was Grant Fuhr in 1984 (I think he changed to the hybrid for 1985...) and Pelle Lindbergh was the last to win a Vezina with one in 1985... he wore that until his death in November 1985. After Murray Bannerman and Warren Skoredenski retired, it was up to Sam St Laurent to be the last with such a mask in 1989-90 for the Detroit Red Wings... he was one of those injury callup goalies.

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You can receive a puck in the eye with that mask.. and besides, you'll scare the players to death thinking it's Jason with the machette..

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You can receive a puck in the eye with that mask.. and besides, you'll scare the players to death thinking it's Jason with the machette..
That's the aim of the mask

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just imagine Price taking Ovechkins shots he took in the helmet the other day with one of these instead of his mask. Now stop wondering why they don't wear it anymore.

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I have a question for you guys: why old-style goalie masks aren't worn anymore in ice hockey (think Dryden, Cheevers).

Is there a way to get a accredited one to play in senior ice hockey league?


These masks aren't used anymore because they were basically good for nothing. Now that the shots are harder, if a goalie got a puck to the face with a mask like that on, he'd be out cold. The mask rests right on the face unlike today's masks that don't touch your face at all...except a chin cup. It's a safety issue more than anything....but you can also see better out of today's masks.

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