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03-10-2009, 09:44 PM
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John "Iron Man?" Stevens

With Carbo's pink slip handed to him, Stevens is now the 2nd longest tenured coach in the Eastern Conference. It's amazing how many teams have axed their man behind the wood over the last two years. He's got a ways to go to catch up to Lindy Ruff who's been with the sabres since '97

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With Carbo's pink slip handed to him, Stevens is now the 2nd longest tenured coach in the Eastern Conference. It's amazing how many teams have axed their man behind the wood over the last two years.
What? Steven's is 2nd longest tenured coach in the east? I call BS.

If this is true, then I say we ax him to.

Also, I liked Iron Man. Please never associate Iron Man with John Stevens. Thanks.

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This is concerning...

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Congratulations, John! I guess the economy is so bad NHL coaches are starting to lose their jobs too

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What? Steven's is 2nd longest tenured coach in the east? I call BS.

If this is true, then I say we ax him to.

Also, I liked Iron Man. Please never associate Iron Man with John Stevens. Thanks.
Look and see on Wikipedia for yourself, it's true.

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Think about it

Fired coaches this season-Montreal, Pittsburgh, New York Rangers, Tampa Bay, Ottawa, Carolina

Hired this past summer-Florida, Atlanta, Toronto, New York Islanders

Took over during last season-Washington

Hired two summers ago-Boston, New Jersey

That leaves Stevens who took over at the beginning of 06-07, and Ruff who took over in 1997.

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Yeah. Who in the west is longer?

Trotz
Lemaire
Babcock?
Gretzky

who else

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Coaches in professional sports teams are almost always on the hot seat. It's really not that much a surprise. The german national soccer league also is quite a cannon firing coaches left and right.

Examples like Ruff or Trotz are quite the exception I'd say. In germany there is a soccer coach named Thomas Schaaf who has coached his club, Werder Bremen for 10 years now and spent almost the entire rest of his career prior to that in that organization, among that also coaching their amateur club for 4 years before becoming the head coach of their professional team. In german soccer that is almost impossible.

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His next win will be #100. Will he bake for himself? Scotty should cater.

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OK. This is truly concerning. But I need to know this.

Who are the current coaches without jobs. I know Laviolette is one of them. I just want to know the talent that is out there that the Flyers refuse to get.

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You'll also notice the teams that have fired their coaches while in playoff positions or just barely out of 8th - a notion that was "ridiculous" last year when we lost 10 straight and slipped out of a playoff spot.

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OK. This is truly concerning. But I need to know this.

Who are the current coaches without jobs. I know Laviolette is one of them. I just want to know the talent that is out there that the Flyers refuse to get.
Reggie Dunlap

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While I'm not Stevens' biggest fan, we are on our way to a great seat in the playoffs for the second season in a row. Stevens knows how to win (Calder Cup says hello). We compete with the top teams and our loss margin isn't that large. It may not seem like we have a system, but something has to be working if we are doing this well, right?

Every coach could be better.

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His next win will be #100. Will he bake for himself? Scotty should cater.
My mind immediately went to Upshall.

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Yeah. Who in the west is longer?

Trotz
Lemaire
Babcock?
Gretzky

who else
MacTavish
Carlyle
Tippett

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03-11-2009, 12:57 AM
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Its only a question of time at this point. Stevens suffers from the exact same problem as Carbonneau did, he's a player's coach... He has his favorites, quite obviously... Thats gonna be his downfall I believe anyway.

To anyone who doesn't agree, I dare ya to prove me why Randy Jones is getting so much ****ing ice time(we have better, I think everyone seens that)... Last year was even worst, Vandermeer and Modry were playing top 4 minutes most of the time for christ sakes.

sure Stevens has more points than Carbonneau did at the time of his firing, but I still believe the Flyers simply have more talent to win games... Wins have nothing or close to nothing to do with Stevens on this team. I have a hard time to believe he has anything to do with the "motivation" of this team, proof? 10 game losing streaks, no killing instinct, regurlayl failing to hold on to leads and the bad habit that has been going around lately(one good showing, one poor effort, one good effort, etc...)

I might be too drunk right now but I still believe Stevens will get the axe at some point soon...

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03-11-2009, 07:54 AM
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Its only a question of time at this point. Stevens suffers from the exact same problem as Carbonneau did, he's a player's coach... He has his favorites, quite obviously... Thats gonna be his downfall I believe anyway.

To anyone who doesn't agree, I dare ya to prove me why Randy Jones is getting so much ****ing ice time(we have better, I think everyone seens that)... Last year was even worst, Vandermeer and Modry were playing top 4 minutes most of the time for christ sakes.

sure Stevens has more points than Carbonneau did at the time of his firing, but I still believe the Flyers simply have more talent to win games... Wins have nothing or close to nothing to do with Stevens on this team. I have a hard time to believe he has anything to do with the "motivation" of this team, proof? 10 game losing streaks, no killing instinct, regurlayl failing to hold on to leads and the bad habit that has been going around lately(one good showing, one poor effort, one good effort, etc...)

I might be too drunk right now but I still believe Stevens will get the axe at some point soon...
I hope not since that would only happen if the Flyers had some sort of collapse like the Pens, Rangers, or Canadiens.

It is unfortunate though because the talent is clearly there on this team, our problems seem to stem mostly from lack of effort and focus on some nights which is purely a coaching problem.

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I'd love to have him. He once put a bounty on Tim McCraken's head.

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On the other hand, look at the four goal comeback in the 3rd period. He may not be coaching them to hold leads or not be lazy after scoring (look at last night vs. Buffalo) but they don't seem to ever give up either.

I like that part.

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The players like him so they won't revolt like the pens did with therrien, or themselves with hitch. They have more scoring depth than any team in the east. this overcomes alot of the team defense issues. As long as their goalie and the 3rd D pairing don't get abused early. The offense will kick in. The only hope is that someone can knock out NJ, because it's chess vs checkers with those guys. And stevens ain't no bobby fisher.

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The players like him so they won't revolt like the pens did with therrien, or themselves with hitch. They have more scoring depth than any team in the east. this overcomes alot of the team defense issues. As long as their goalie and the 3rd D pairing don't get abused early. The offense will kick in. The only hope is that someone can knock out NJ, because it's chess vs checkers with those guys. And stevens ain't no bobby fisher.
NJ GamePlan = TRAP+Brodeur !!!!!!! Then Parise/Zajac/Elias = Goal!

PHI GamePlan= Carter+Richards+all out offensive style = Goals!!!! hopefully more then the other team

The real issue is we can easily outscore teams like the Thrashers, Sabres and Islanders, but quality trap teams are prepared for our all out offensive. Heck, we play offensive on the PK and it has worked due to our large amount of talent, but the trap teams shut down our offense and then are able to overcome our weak defense and beat us.

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Not one photoshop of Stevens as Iron Man?

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Real groundbreaking stuff in this thread.



Awesome.

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Its only a question of time at this point. Stevens suffers from the exact same problem as Carbonneau did, he's a player's coach... He has his favorites, quite obviously... Thats gonna be his downfall I believe anyway.
Definitely. Most coaches don't have their favorite players.

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Wins have nothing or close to nothing to do with Stevens on this team.


I love it!

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It is unfortunate though because the talent is clearly there on this team, our problems seem to stem mostly from lack of effort and focus on some nights which is purely a coaching problem.
Teams don't go 82-0 for a reason, man. Teams lose focus. Teams don't go 100% all game every game. That's life.

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The real issue is we can easily outscore teams like the Thrashers, Sabres and Islanders, but quality trap teams are prepared for our all out offensive. Heck, we play offensive on the PK and it has worked due to our large amount of talent, but the trap teams shut down our offense and then are able to overcome our weak defense and beat us.
What "trap teams"?

I think the Flyers have a winning record against divison leaders, don't they? I thought I read this here last week.

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