Hartnell: Big hair, big play

Paranoid Android · 03-14-2009, 02:03 PM

edit: oh the faces are the link, lol

Soundgarden · 03-14-2009, 02:08 PM

Man I miss Hartnell, I think he's just what we need right now.

Predsrule · 03-14-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Soundgarden

Man I miss Hartnell, I think he's just what we need right now.

yup we keep him and were probably in LV right now playing as well

just couldn't afford to keep him

Dave is a killer · 03-14-2009, 02:45 PM

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yup we keep him and were probably in LV right now playing as well

just couldn't afford to keep him

you really think so ? ... how about letting vokoun, timonen, kariya AND erat go instead ?

Paranoid Android · 03-14-2009, 03:09 PM

Erat > Hartnell

Erat can create plays on his own. Hartnell needs good line mates to be useful.

Dave is a killer · 03-14-2009, 03:23 PM

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Erat > Hartnell

Erat can create plays on his own. Hartnell needs good line mates to be useful.

Yeah Erat has been freaking awesome this season

Erat says hello ...

Hartnell says goodbye

Same # of assists & Hartnell has 9 more goals

Enoch · 03-14-2009, 05:12 PM

We could have kept Hartnell. He was asking for a lot less than the 4+ million he received. I think it was close to 3 annually over 4-5 years. Trotz is the reason Hartnell is not on this team, and Poile's stupidity in offering a 1 year deal to him with UFA looming is one of biggest mistakes he has ever made.

jstreet · 03-14-2009, 05:24 PM

thats what I was gonna say. Hartnell wasnt going to break out here no matter what the numbers were. Trotz was through with him and he was through with Trotz.

nine_inch_fang · 03-14-2009, 05:41 PM

He did get benched earlier in the year in Philly.........

just sayin'

Dave is a killer · 03-14-2009, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nine_inch_fang

He did get benched earlier in the year in Philly.........

just sayin'

Then what is Trotz waiting for with Erat

nine_inch_fang · 03-14-2009, 05:55 PM

haha. idk

predfan24 · 03-14-2009, 08:24 PM

Man I miss Harts, but let's face it that man was born to be a Flyer. Destiny led him there.

brah · 03-14-2009, 08:55 PM

Hartnell. My favorite player.

My friends and I flipped when we saw his hair last week. His new name is the ice yetti.

jstreet · 03-14-2009, 10:47 PM

All I remember was him sitting in the penalty box every 5 minutes. I liked him, but he was really playing like junk up until he got shipped out.

Enoch · 03-15-2009, 10:34 AM

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All I remember was him sitting in the penalty box every 5 minutes. I liked him, but he was really playing like junk up until he got shipped out.

Trotz kool-aid? This is far far from the truth of Hart's time here.

nine_inch_fang · 03-15-2009, 10:47 AM

Enoch you have to agree though his benching earlier this year was for the same reasons that he was "in the doghouse" with the Preds.

I'm not saying I wouldn't want him now though and ofcourse the only reason he wasn't signed was the impending sale. Between the Forsberg deal and the sale this team was sent back to 02-03.

Enoch · 03-15-2009, 11:43 AM

I agree. Hartnell didn't have the instincts/brain power to play under a Trotz coached team. Its sad but true.

dulzhok · 03-16-2009, 01:28 AM

Hartnell can create some offensive on his own, but he's best when paired with true offensive players (Carter, Gagne, etc).

He would be nice to have now. But, he wouldn't have the same numbers. And not because of Trotz... because of the offensive talent disparity between Nashville and Philly.

jstreet · 03-16-2009, 09:43 AM

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Trotz kool-aid? This is far far from the truth of Hart's time here.

it's not that far, you dont remember his rash of horrible untimely penalties game in and game out during his last season here?

Enoch · 03-16-2009, 10:44 AM

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it's not that far, you dont remember his rash of horrible untimely penalties game in and game out during his last season here?

He had a stretch of bad games, including the stick sliding incident that gave the other team the winning goal in OT......with that said, I do think it is unfair to characterize his whole time here based on one bad season of bad penalties. I will concede that Harts has always had a penchant for taking dumb penalties, but he was also in the dog-house for most of his time here, which is unfortunate.

jstreet · 03-16-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Enoch

He had a stretch of bad games, including the stick sliding incident that gave the other team the winning goal in OT......with that said, I do think it is unfair to characterize his whole time here based on one bad season of bad penalties. I will concede that Harts has always had a penchant for taking dumb penalties, but he was also in the dog-house for most of his time here, which is unfortunate.

I agree with your assesment, my focus was on his last season especially leading up to the time that he left. It almost seemed like he did things just to stick it to Trotz some nights. I know that is probably crazy, but it seemed that way sometimes

I miss the "Bull Hartnell" Days, but that was a long time ago.

Also, he had a pretty poor showing against NYR yesterday, did anybody catch that?

OurGocIsAnAwesomeGoc · 03-16-2009, 10:59 AM

Hartnell's "bad penalties" are overstated, severely. What he brought far outweighed what he cost.

In my opinion, losing him hurt us more than losing Vokoun or Kariya, and was on equal footing with losing Timonen.