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03-18-2009, 12:46 PM
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Hamrlik to FLA

If J.Bo leaves for free agency, the Panthers lose a vital part of their d-core.

What if you get Hamrlik to replace him.

Something along the lines of

Hamrlik (2years left at 5.4m)

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Rights to J.Bo from draft day to june 30th

Something you might be interested in?

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03-18-2009, 12:49 PM
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not enough
add a defencemen

well take horton frolik weiss booth ballard off your hands

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When's his NTC expire?

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Mike Keane is no longer the GM of the Panthers.

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Mike Keane is no longer the GM of the Panthers.
Don't think he ever was...he is still playing for the Moose in the AHL.

Why would the Habs trade Hammer for the rights of a guy that likely won't sign here.....and end up with nothing but another hole to fill.

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If J.Bo leaves for free agency, the Panthers lose a vital part of their d-core.

What if you get Hamrlik to replace him.

Something along the lines of

Hamrlik (2years left at 5.4m)

for

Rights to J.Bo from draft day to june 30th

Something you might be interested in?

I'm ready to add Higgins

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That's just stupid on the Habs' part.

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That's just stupid on the Habs' part.
Are you serious?

Replacing Hamrlik with J.Bo is stupid? Seriously?

How much would J.Bo command? 6-8m right?

Hamrlik is 5.5m, Laraque is 1.5m and Dandouillon is ~3.7m
We replace Hamrlik with J.Bo and florida gets a good d-man to fill a glaring empty spot. It seems legit to me

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When's his NTC expire?
That's the problem, Hamrlik has a partial NTC, I don't know the terms. But who wouldn't wanna play for the Panthers if the team is on the uprise (which they are)?

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That's just stupid on the Habs' part.
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Are you serious?

Replacing Hamrlik with J.Bo is stupid? Seriously?

How much would J.Bo command? 6-8m right?

Hamrlik is 5.5m, Laraque is 1.5m and Dandouillon is ~3.7m
We replace Hamrlik with J.Bo and florida gets a good d-man to fill a glaring empty spot. It seems legit to me
I think he ment trading NHL defenceman with 2 more years remaining for impending UFA who might not sign is waaaaay to much.

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Are you serious?

Replacing Hamrlik with J.Bo is stupid? Seriously?

How much would J.Bo command? 6-8m right?

Hamrlik is 5.5m, Laraque is 1.5m and Dandouillon is ~3.7m
We replace Hamrlik with J.Bo and florida gets a good d-man to fill a glaring empty spot. It seems legit to me
This isn't "replacing Hamrlik with J-Bo". It's replacing Hamrlik with the rights to talk to J-Bo. Entirely different situation.

Didn't the Sundin Saga teach us that negotiation rights =/= automatic signing?

I guarantee you no general manager in the league would do the trade you proposed from the Habs' POV.

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This isn't "replacing Hamrlik with J-Bo". It's replacing Hamrlik with the rights to talk to J-Bo. Entirely different situation.

Didn't the Sundin Saga teach us that negotiation rights =/= automatic signing?

I guarantee you no general manager in the league would do the trade you proposed from the Habs' POV.
and you would be right

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and you would be right
Listen, I just want to know: would Florida do it. Not Montreal, FLORIDA.

Other than the Sundin Saga (which is an exception) most of the times a player's rights are traded, they sign with that new team.

Timonen and Hartnell say hi.

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Yeah but JBo is not signing in MTL. So why bother?

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Trade Hamrlik just for the rights to negotiate with J-Bo? Hell no. Habs will not be able to sign him then we'll be out Hammer for nothing. Horrible!

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Don't think he ever was...he is still playing for the Moose in the AHL.

Why would the Habs trade Hammer for the rights of a guy that likely won't sign here.....and end up with nothing but another hole to fill.
Lol, I always get those two mixed up. Damn that extra e.

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Listen, I just want to know: would Florida do it. Not Montreal, FLORIDA.

Other than the Sundin Saga (which is an exception) most of the times a player's rights are traded, they sign with that new team.

Timonen and Hartnell say hi.
Yeah but they didn't trade a 3rd D for their rights


TB traded a 7th to get the rights of Prospal, not saying it's the same kind of player, but it gives an example of the value of an upcoming UFA

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Yeah but they didn't trade a 3rd D for their rights


TB traded a 7th to get the rights of Prospal, not saying it's the same kind of player, but it gives an example of the value of an upcoming UFA
Listen, Habs fans, give it a rest.

J.Bo is a clear and definite upgrade over Hamrlik for montreal. If he wants 7m, we can fit him in perfectly if we trade Hamrlik and waive Laraque (5.5 + 1.5).

My question is: does florida have the cap space, or nessecary need to replace J.Bo with Hamrlik.

Habs fans, shut up!

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When's his NTC expire?
february 1st 2011.

but, as of feb 1st this year, it became a partial NTC. There is a list of 12 teams (6 east, 6 west) that he would approve a trade to. Do you think florida is one of his top 6 destinations in the east?

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february 1st 2011.

but, as of feb 1st this year, it became a partial NTC. There is a list of 12 teams (6 east, 6 west) that he would approve a trade to. Do you think florida is one of his top 6 destinations in the east?
I don't know what his 12 teams are.

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Listen, Habs fans, give it a rest.

J.Bo is a clear and definite upgrade over Hamrlik for montreal. If he wants 7m, we can fit him in perfectly if we trade Hamrlik and waive Laraque (5.5 + 1.5).

My question is: does florida have the cap space, or nessecary need to replace J.Bo with Hamrlik.

Habs fans, shut up!
You started a thread with a Hab in it, so your going to get mostly Hab fans responding because they are in great numbers at HF. No need to tell them to shut up.

Everyone knows J Bo is a clear upgrade on Hammer and every D on the Habs not named Markov. Who cares if he wants 7M, the likelyhood of him sigining with the Habs is about as good as the chances of them winning the cup this year. I would bet that if the Habs offered J Bo 10M a year he wouldn't sign here.

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Will you take our overpriced veteran D-man for nothing?

Umm no. Hamrlik is only going to be heading downhill.

Why would Florida take on an aging defenseman and overpay him for 2 years for essentially nothing?

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Yeah but JBo is not signing in MTL. So why bother?
Unfortunate but true

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Listen, Habs fans, give it a rest.

J.Bo is a clear and definite upgrade over Hamrlik for montreal. If he wants 7m, we can fit him in perfectly if we trade Hamrlik and waive Laraque (5.5 + 1.5).

My question is: does florida have the cap space, or nessecary need to replace J.Bo with Hamrlik.

Habs fans, shut up!
Really ... when was the last time a top player was traded for a player right ?

You are clearly pathetic there !

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Will you take our overpriced veteran D-man for nothing?

Umm no. Hamrlik is only going to be heading downhill.

Why would Florida take on an aging defenseman and overpay him for 2 years for essentially nothing?
Bruins fans in the house !!!

you have almost as hindsight about my team than laraque offensive awareness !

thank you but comes again when you doesnt have any biased view on the situation !

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you have almost as hindsight about my team than laraque offensive awareness !

thank you but comes again when you doesnt have any biased view on the situation !
Hamrlik has a cap hit of 5.5 million

Andrei Markov has a cap hit of 5.75 million and is about 5 years younger and as another thread recently showed is considered by many to be one of the top 10 defensemen in the league.

I'm not saying Hamrlik is a bad player. In fact, I think he played great in the first round of the playoffs last year but he's not worth 5.5 million and he's on the downside of his career.

Why would Florida want to pay Roman Hamrlik 5.5 million for each of the next 2 years?

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