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03-16-2009, 01:52 AM
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He's a bone crusher, just like his brother. Not anything to write home about when it comes to playing defense, but he's not a huge liability the way Schultz is. I'd actually like him to make a decent career here as a player.

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He's a bone crusher, just like his brother. Not anything to write home about when it comes to playing defense, but he's not a huge liability the way Schultz is. I'd actually like him to make a decent career here as a player.


We're not really saying that Kronwall is better defensively than Schultz are we? That's crazy talk.

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There isn't much point trying to convince people of Schultz' positive attributes. The team appreciates them just fine, and that's all that matters.

Schultz would be far more popular with fans if he were 5' 11", yet because he has size, he's expected to be a physical hitter.

Schultz is a mobile puckmover, with a good first pass, who happens to be tall. He could stand to work on his skating, to be sure, as he can get beat. Yet he's a puckmover who will probably never be a guy with a lot of snarl. As long as he doesn't get too expensive, that's a valuable player. Pair him with a decent defenseman with wheels. If the club adds a guy who can play with Green at some point, Schultz can play with Poti.

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03-16-2009, 09:04 AM
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There isn't much point trying to convince people of Schultz' positive attributes. The team appreciates them just fine, and that's all that matters.

Schultz would be far more popular with fans if he were 5' 11", yet because he has size, he's expected to be a physical hitter.

Schultz is a mobile puckmover, with a good first pass, who happens to be tall. He could stand to work on his skating, to be sure, as he can get beat. Yet he's a puckmover who will probably never be a guy with a lot of snarl. As long as he doesn't get too expensive, that's a valuable player. Pair him with a decent defenseman with wheels. If the club adds a guy who can play with Green at some point, Schultz can play with Poti.
Exactly. I agree with every single word.

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03-16-2009, 09:23 AM
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Schultz is a ditchdigger. And that's just fine. The world needs them too. As long he's paid at a level commensurate with his ability, rather than his draft position, I'll gladly keep him.

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03-16-2009, 10:50 AM
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There isn't much point trying to convince people of Schultz' positive attributes. The team appreciates them just fine, and that's all that matters.

Schultz would be far more popular with fans if he were 5' 11", yet because he has size, he's expected to be a physical hitter.

Schultz is a mobile puckmover, with a good first pass, who happens to be tall. He could stand to work on his skating, to be sure, as he can get beat. Yet he's a puckmover who will probably never be a guy with a lot of snarl. As long as he doesn't get too expensive, that's a valuable player. Pair him with a decent defenseman with wheels. If the club adds a guy who can play with Green at some point, Schultz can play with Poti.
I actually disagree somewhat. I see Schultz as neither a puckmover, nor mobile. He's a positional defensive guy with a decent stick, and not much more, IMO. He's as uncomfortable and awkward with the puck as any defenseman on the Caps, Jurcina included. I think he'd be fine with a mobile partner in a third pairing role at this point, and that he'll comfortably be a solid #3-4 in the future, so long as the skating does improve.

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I think Mo is the most awkward and uncomfortable with the puck of the bunch. I hate it when he's out there with the top line because you know he's going to turn it over if he touches it.

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Morrisonn will probably end up being the team's first cap casualty since the rebuild, and one whose loss isn't going to be missed by this fan, anyway.

Schultz' mobility can certainly be questioned, but I do believe he is an excellent puckmover, not insofar as his ability to skate the puck up ice, but his first pass.

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There isn't much point trying to convince people of Schultz' positive attributes. The team appreciates them just fine, and that's all that matters.

Schultz would be far more popular with fans if he were 5' 11", yet because he has size, he's expected to be a physical hitter.

Schultz is a mobile puckmover, with a good first pass, who happens to be tall. He could stand to work on his skating, to be sure, as he can get beat. Yet he's a puckmover who will probably never be a guy with a lot of snarl. As long as he doesn't get too expensive, that's a valuable player. Pair him with a decent defenseman with wheels. If the club adds a guy who can play with Green at some point, Schultz can play with Poti.
I'm not meaning to pick on you Drake, but I have never really understood this. How can you be mobile, while at the same time need to work on skating? Don't those 2 things fly right in the face of each other? To be "mobile", doesn't one need to be fast?

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I actually disagree somewhat. I see Schultz as neither a puckmover, nor mobile. He's a positional defensive guy with a decent stick, and not much more, IMO. He's as uncomfortable and awkward with the puck as any defenseman on the Caps, Jurcina included. I think he'd be fine with a mobile partner in a third pairing role at this point, and that he'll comfortably be a solid #3-4 in the future, so long as the skating does improve.
While I agree with your questions about his mobility, I think Jeff Schultz is the best defenseman we have at passing the puck out of the zone these days. Poti seems to be struggling, and he's really the only other d-man we have with any real skill at it. When Schultz gets the puck on his stick, it ends up on a forward's stick more often than any other d-man we have.

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I actually disagree somewhat. I see Schultz as neither a puckmover, nor mobile. He's a positional defensive guy with a decent stick, and not much more, IMO. He's as uncomfortable and awkward with the puck as any defenseman on the Caps, Jurcina included. I think he'd be fine with a mobile partner in a third pairing role at this point, and that he'll comfortably be a solid #3-4 in the future, so long as the skating does improve.
This.

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1. Its been said about Schultz for a while now. He will be hated because he is big and doesnt hit. Why can't he be Hal Gill. He was drafted as an offensive defenseman, not a lumberjack, but that has never sunk in.

2. Schultz puck movement is smooth and reliable. He is not known for turnovers. Getting beat one on one or knocked down by a much smaller player, sure. Bad passes, not so much.

3. Schultz is a key penalty killer and he rarely makes mistakes in that role. With his reach and good stick he covers a vast amount of ice and closes off big passing lanes. He doesn't wiff and chunk clearing attempts as Steckel and Erskine are known to regularly do.

4. IIRC, Schultz best partner has been Pothier. Pothier is a great skater and a veteran. He makes up for Schultz's lack of speed and experience and has been the perfect compliment to Schultz size and reach. I would imagine that when Pothier returns we will see Mo-Green, Poti-Jurcina, Pothier-Schultz

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There isn't much point trying to convince people of Schultz' positive attributes. The team appreciates them just fine, and that's all that matters.

Schultz would be far more popular with fans if he were 5' 11", yet because he has size, he's expected to be a physical hitter.

oh no, if schultz were 5' 11 he would not play in the nhl, right now he is in the line up because hes young and big, not cuz hes a great defender.

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My problem with Schultz's puck movement is his ability to transistion his defensive play into offensive play. When he's given time, sure he makes accurate outlet passes. But when he's pressured, he can't seem to get a handle on the puck to get it moving. He's also a master of establishing the forecheck on himself by taking so bloody long to get control of the puck. Its especially painful to watch on the PK, which contributes to the Caps being one of the worst teams in the league at clearing the puck out of the zone.

@txpd: I agree with you that he's essentially a Hal Gill. He'd be a solid player if he was paired effectively.

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03-16-2009, 02:29 PM
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1. Its been said about Schultz for a while now. He will be hated because he is big and doesnt hit. Why can't he be Hal Gill. He was drafted as an offensive defenseman, not a lumberjack, but that has never sunk in.

2. Schultz puck movement is smooth and reliable. He is not known for turnovers. Getting beat one on one or knocked down by a much smaller player, sure. Bad passes, not so much.

3. Schultz is a key penalty killer and he rarely makes mistakes in that role. With his reach and good stick he covers a vast amount of ice and closes off big passing lanes. He doesn't wiff and chunk clearing attempts as Steckel and Erskine are known to regularly do.

4. IIRC, Schultz best partner has been Pothier. Pothier is a great skater and a veteran. He makes up for Schultz's lack of speed and experience and has been the perfect compliment to Schultz size and reach. I would imagine that when Pothier returns we will see Mo-Green, Poti-Jurcina, Pothier-Schultz

1. Offensive Defenseman? He was? I mean he put up decent #s in Calgary, but did anyone really believe he was going to be an offensive defender at this level with his footspeed? I have a much bigger issue with him getting constantly bowled over by smaller forwards and beaten to loose pucks repeatedly, than I do with his lack of a mean streak.


4. Erskine?

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1. Offensive Defenseman? He was? I mean he put up decent #s in Calgary, but did anyone really believe he was going to be an offensive defender at this level with his footspeed? I have a much bigger issue with him getting constantly bowled over by smaller forwards and beaten to loose pucks repeatedly, than I do with his lack of a mean streak.


4. Erskine?
Erskine will probably rotate with Jurcina and Pothier. He's shown that his effectiveness wanes when he's overworked, so some breaks here and there could be a real boon. I wouldn't put him as the primary scratch (if you had to break it down that way) where he'd get the most time off, but I think he is going to be one of the guys you see out once in a while.

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He's Tarik's story on Brooksy. I love that guy.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...031802779.html

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"If I asked you about your family, you would talk about them forever because it's something you love," Laich said. "That's the way I feel about this team. This team is my life, and I love playing here and I'm passionate about playing hockey. So it's easy for me to talk about it."

thats so infectious.
just like ovi's passion is infectious.

the superstar offensive player and the hard working utility cover just about everyone in terms of who the other guys on the team can strive to be.

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Tarik's editor failed him in the Ladies Man story. The Caps lost the LA Kings game.

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He's Tarik's story on Brooksy. I love that guy.

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Good to see Brooksie getting some much deserved ink.

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Laing - one and done, out with a torn spleen, speedy recovery wishes being sent his way

Green - not practicing today, no surprise

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Laing - one and done, out with a torn spleen, speedy recovery wishes being sent his way

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Ouch !! Wth that is some bad luck.

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Damn, sucks for QLaing.

And I guess Greener's wind is still knocked out of him, eh?

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Who's the best PK'er in Hershey right now?

Joudrey?

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Who's the best PK'er in Hershey right now?

Joudrey?
Yes, Joudrey. (as an additional note, he's also the guy out there when Hershey is killing a 5 on 3)

But Bourque spends a lot of time on the PK, too; and Beagle's PK time recently has been more noticeable, IMO.

The first PK last Sunday was Joudrey and Pinizzotto and IIRC, the second was Boruque and Beagle. Giroux and Gordon among others also see some time on the PK.

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