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My guess would be $38-40M. Phoenix will have to add salary to avoid being below the floor next year . This is particaularly true if their young guys don't make their bonuses. Right now, excluding bonuses thay are at about $28M on 15 contracts. However, they may want to do this with short term (1 yr) deals.
my guess is phoenix starts to backload deals for players they sign. Guys like upshall, prucha, dawes, lisin, winnik, and yandle this year, plus any UFA's they sign. Cap hits will be higher in the present, and if phoenix gets time to deal with the higher salaries.
assuming the cap stays the same, the lower limit will again be 40.7M. Phoenix already has 31.1M committed to Doan, Turris, Boedker, Mueller, Tikhonov, Fedoruk, Hanzal, Porter, Perrault, Jovo, Sauer, Michalek, Hale, and Bryzgalov. They sign all their RFA forwards to fill out the forward ranks, and they'll still have a few extra forwards. That should add about 6-7M to their number. They need to sign 2-3 defensemen, including yandle. Nick ross will probably fill a spot for 875k. If yandle signs long-term, his cap number could be as high as 3M. Phoenix should have no trouble reaching the cap floor next year.
The year after that, the cap will drop, putting them well over the cap floor.
I am sorry, but this is a huge pet peeve of mine.
There is no H in Visnovsky. You read it like Vishnovsky, but thats because in original Slovak spelling of his name, there's an š. You read š like sh in english.
Lol. Some Phoenix fans think Hanzal is more valuable than Visnovsky. Are you kidding me? I understand if you can't take the salary, but if you think there is any other way the Coyotes would not make that trade, you have no idea how to evaluate NHL players.
Lol. Some Phoenix fans think Hanzal is more valuable than Visnovsky. Are you kidding me? I understand if you can't take the salary, but if you think there is any other way the Coyotes would not make that trade, you have no idea how to evaluate NHL players.
To the Coyotes with their financial issues and desire to build from within with youth, yes he is.
Lol. Some Phoenix fans think Hanzal is more valuable than Visnovsky. Are you kidding me? I understand if you can't take the salary, but if you think there is any other way the Coyotes would not make that trade, you have no idea how to evaluate NHL players.
It's not that Hanzal is more valuable than Visnovsky, it's that we're not willing to give up a big, young, inexpensive (for now), promising defensive center with offensive upside - a kid who figures to be a big factor in our future prospects - for a thirty-something defenseman with a big contract, a NTC, and a penchant for injury.
If we were in a playoff hunt and needed a key defenseman to make the run down the stretch, then maybe we could revisit this discussion - but right now it just doesn't make any sense at all.
I don't think Phoenix would have interest in a 7 million dollar defensman... but in a few years time, when he's costing 5 or 3 million... I could definately see a move to a team like Phoenix.
There is a reason why we had to trade Derek Morris. That said, if we get a new owner by the time the draft rolls around, perhaps there could be some discussion, at that point. Even so, throwing Hanzal's name into the mix is shooting for the moon in a big, big way. That's a pure pipedream. If you have too many high-priced puck-movers in Souray, Vishnovsky, Gilbert, and soon to be Grebeshkov, and you want to clear some salary, I imagine we'd offer Calgary's first rounder, or something similar, assuming we have new ownership. You aren't getting Hanzal, or anything close to that, though. The kid has been our second best forward, all year long.
Yes the Yotes are strapped financially, but I think getting rid of Morris had more to do with "selling at the deadline for prospects" opposed to not being able to afford him in the future. Plus Morris probably wanted to go to a winning team anyways.
If I'm the Oilers however, I look to offer Gilbert/Brodziak/Pouliot for another 2nd/3rd line faceoff centreman. I would even consider dealing Horcoff as well for a cheaper faceoff guy with less years (or just less years) & resigning Reasoner in the offseason.
Yes the Yotes are strapped financially, but I think getting rid of Morris had more to do with "selling at the deadline for prospects" opposed to not being able to afford him in the future.
Nope. All wrong. The reasons were shockingly well documented given the team's utter lack of media coverage. Both sides really wanted a deal done. Given the ownership issues, an extension was impossible. Maloney just got what he could. All sides have repeatedly stated as much.
Unfortunately with the economic uncertainty they might be better off filling that void with one of the many UFA out there who will probably not be able to find the long term big money contracts they are looking for. Nothing against Visnovsky as I think he is very good defenseman that could certainly help but I don't know if he'd have too much value until the free agents eventually cave. If they are all stupidly locked up on july 1st for huge dollars then I could see him getting Hanzal or something like that in return.
That said, I don't really see where the money to pay Visnovsky, or any other high priced player for that matter, would come from. They are gonna have to scrape by until their young guys can break out, get them competitive and generate some interest in the city.
Lol, it's not that far-fetched. Gilbert is actually pretty good, Oilers fans just need someone to be their whipping boy. The guy's got 40 points right now, despite the fact that Vis and Souray take up all the 1st unit powerplay time. He played on the top pairing right up until Visnovsky got injured, and he's still got a good plus/minus. He still makes dumb moves every now and then, but he's only a 2nd year player (one thing his critics seem to forget), so he'll grow out of that. He also doesn't hit, which makes people dislike him, but that just isn't his game.
Lol, it's not that far-fetched. Gilbert is actually pretty good, Oilers fans just need someone to be their whipping boy.
I have no doubt he's pretty good or has some future upside. I'm saying he's not worth trading Hanzal for us right now. Now, maybe we have someone else you might want in exchange or you might sweeten the deal, but Hanzal - Gilbert straight across isn't going to happen.
