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03-20-2009, 03:39 PM
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Jagr to Edmonton was very real

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http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puc...urn=nhl,149538

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03-20-2009, 04:12 PM
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Gonna be an intresting off season.

Why Can't Sather get him back in a Ranger Jersey. I thought we have this great relationship & transfer agreement with OMSK.

We could send Redden & Gomez there in exchange for Jagr.

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Why would Slats re-sign him this offseason? He could have just signed Jagr for 2 seasons last summer. Slats only offered a one year deal but Jagr wanted 2.

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Is he wearing his Rangers gloves in that picture?

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Is he wearing his Rangers gloves in that picture?
He's actually wearing Fedor's Tyutin's Rangers gloves. He wore them all season.

Jagr's not coming back to the Rangers. The Rangers moved on, they didn't want him, and they made that abundantly apparent last summer.

As for the Rangers great relationship and exchange agreement with Omsk, I think that went out the window when they killed our top prospect.

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correct me if I am wrong BUT

wouldn't any team be able to claim him off of waivers in this scenario?

Although he would be "transfered" by Omsk, he would still need to sign an NHL contract to play in the league, which at that point if he played for Omsk at any time that season he would be subject to waivers.

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He's actually wearing Fedor's Tyutin's Rangers gloves. He wore them all season.

Jagr's not coming back to the Rangers. The Rangers moved on, they didn't want him, and they made that abundantly apparent last summer.

As for the Rangers great relationship and exchange agreement with Omsk, I think that went out the window when they killed our top prospect.

Actually, only one of those are Tyutin's....the other is the same glove he was worn for the last 5 years. After Toots got traded, Jags took those gloves before he left and he wore them all through camp in Omsk but Jags hates braking in new gloves so once the season started, he was back with his old gloves....after one of them couldn't be repaired anymore, he started using the new one.

I agree with you about his status with NYR. Sather had a chance to keep Jagr and allow him to retire with the team he wanted to be involved with. However, Slats thought it was best served to go in a different direction.....a route us fans wil be forced to live with for years to come.

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I think any chance we had of getting Jagr back went out the door with Tom Renney.

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The thought of him playing under torts' system really REALLY makes me want him back.

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He's actually wearing Fedor's Tyutin's Rangers gloves. He wore them all season.

Jagr's not coming back to the Rangers. The Rangers moved on, they didn't want him, and they made that abundantly apparent last summer.

As for the Rangers great relationship and exchange agreement with Omsk, I think that went out the window when they killed our top prospect.
pretty stupid comment.

Mistakes happen. Omsk didn't kill the kid, the medics that left the building could be just as responsible.

you are entitled to your opinion and for the most part I truly respect them and look forward to reading your posts, but that one was a little much and totally wrong.

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The thought of him playing under torts' system really REALLY makes me want him back.
Jagr doesn't fit Tortarella's system; it's the North American attack style game that we all wanted Renney to implement and hoped he wouldn't stray from once Nylander, Straka, and Jagr were gone. Jagr doesn't backcheck on a consistant enough basis nor does he usually backcheck hard enough for us to constantly have our d-men pinching the way they are now, he'd rather dick around with the puck in the corner for 20 minutes then get the puck to the net the way we do in Torts system. Honestly I wonder how much one knows about Torts system, or Jagr's game, to think he'd be real affective in it.

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Jagr doesn't fit Tortarella's system; it's the North American attack style game that we all wanted Renney to implement and hoped he wouldn't stray from once Nylander, Straka, and Jagr were gone. Jagr doesn't backcheck on a consistant enough basis nor does he usually backcheck hard enough for us to constantly have our d-men pinching the way they are now, he'd rather dick around with the puck in the corner for 20 minutes then get the puck to the net the way we do in Torts system. Honestly I wonder how much one knows about Torts system, or Jagr's game, to think he'd be real affective in it.



Why on earth would we want Jagr working his magic in the corners when we could have had Redden pinching in on the play this whole time??? I read ya!

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Jagr doesn't fit Tortarella's system; it's the North American attack style game that we all wanted Renney to implement and hoped he wouldn't stray from once Nylander, Straka, and Jagr were gone. Jagr doesn't backcheck on a consistant enough basis nor does he usually backcheck hard enough for us to constantly have our d-men pinching the way they are now, he'd rather dick around with the puck in the corner for 20 minutes then get the puck to the net the way we do in Torts system. Honestly I wonder how much one knows about Torts system, or Jagr's game, to think he'd be real affective in it.
What? i can think of HUNDREDS of times jagr threw the puck at the net,he11 he even scored once doing it accidently.

As for back checking,right now we give up lots of 2 on 1's what would be the difference if jagr was here and actually HELD THE PUCK IN THE ZONE.

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03-21-2009, 01:07 AM
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pretty stupid comment.

Mistakes happen. Omsk didn't kill the kid, the medics that left the building could be just as responsible.

you are entitled to your opinion and for the most part I truly respect them and look forward to reading your posts, but that one was a little much and totally wrong.
Of all of the crap that gets thrown around here, you're going to choose that to object to and call "stupid"?

The fact remains that the public prosecutor determined that Avangard's doctors knew he had a problem, and not only failed to get him the appropriate medical attention, but tried to treat the problem themselves with banned substances.

He never should have been playing in that game in the first place. It shouldn't have come down to whether or not an ambulance squad was called away to assist another victim or not.

The "killed our top prospect" comment was largely tongue-in-cheek, but don't try for a minute to tell me that members of the Avangard organization don't have his blood on their hands.

Mistakes happen, yes. But what Omsk's doctors did goes beyond the realm of "mistake" to gross negligence.


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Of all of the crap that gets thrown around here, you're going to choose that to object to and call "stupid"?

The fact remains that the public prosecutor determined that Avangard's doctors knew he had a problem, and not only failed to get him the appropriate medical attention, but tried to treat the problem themselves with banned substances.

He never should have been playing in that game in the first place. It shouldn't have come down to whether or not an ambulance squad was called away to assist another victim or not.

The "killed our top prospect" comment was largely tongue-in-cheek, but don't try for a minute to tell me that members of the Avangard organization don't have his blood on their hands.

Mistakes happen, yes. But what Omsk's doctors did goes beyond the realm of "mistake" to gross negligence.
Top notch post.

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There is a link from a russian website which says that Jagr will leave KHL if the league will decrease the payroll next year.
http://news.livesport.ru/hockey/2009/03/18/jagr/

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Jagr doesn't fit Tortarella's system; it's the North American attack style game that we all wanted Renney to implement and hoped he wouldn't stray from once Nylander, Straka, and Jagr were gone. Jagr doesn't backcheck on a consistant enough basis nor does he usually backcheck hard enough for us to constantly have our d-men pinching the way they are now, he'd rather dick around with the puck in the corner for 20 minutes then get the puck to the net the way we do in Torts system. Honestly I wonder how much one knows about Torts system, or Jagr's game, to think he'd be real affective in it.
True, I mean the guy can't even score goals!


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correct me if I am wrong BUT

wouldn't any team be able to claim him off of waivers in this scenario?

Although he would be "transfered" by Omsk, he would still need to sign an NHL contract to play in the league, which at that point if he played for Omsk at any time that season he would be subject to waivers.
Which is why EDM had a $7 Million salary waiting for him, knowing that would deter any of the team ahead of them in waiver priority to pass on him.

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Which is why EDM had a $7 Million salary waiting for him, knowing that would deter any of the team ahead of them in waiver priority to pass on him.
IMO that would only deter some teams. I could definitely see some teams lower on the waver wire still placing a claim for him even with that price tag.

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He's actually wearing Fedor's Tyutin's Rangers gloves. He wore them all season.

Jagr's not coming back to the Rangers. The Rangers moved on, they didn't want him, and they made that abundantly apparent last summer.
Well... According to Sather, Jagr & his Agent never got serious about any of the negotiations before the UFA signing began..... I don't think it was the Rangers that walked away from Jagr but the other way around....

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/freeagents/journal.html

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4:54pm ET - Sather about Jagr: "I talked to Jaromir today and waited for a call for the last couple of days and nothing happened, so we decided they were going to move on."
This was also on an audio clip posted on msg.com but I couldn't' find it in the archives....

Knowing Jagr he probably had this mind made up for awhile... The manner in which he played it out made it look like it was the Rangers that forced the hand but it was Jagr's Agent not contacting Sather to negotiate on time....For the most part it worked pretty well as there are still plenty of fans who think Jagr wanted to sign here but the Rangers rebuffed him.... Too bad Jagr didn't have the Paul Mara mentality....

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