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03-25-2009, 12:26 PM
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Dismissing this idea because because a "hick town" like Green Bay does it too is a bit . The only reason that "hick town" has survived in the NFL (the all-powerful, immensely successful NFL) is probably because of community ownership.

Also, would you consider Barcelona and Madrid to be "hick towns"? Their football (soccer) teams are member-owned as well.
NFL teams do not survive because of ownership, they survive because of their TV contract and renevue sharing.

Regarding teams from other sports from other economies, I seriously do not think that their conditions are easily translatable. The structure and old school membership in North American pro sports is very different from Europe, and other markets.

Plus, remember Lazio? They thought they had a great idea by being a team sold on the open stock market. They used to be the cream of the crop. That ownership model killed them. I do not even think they are Serie A anymore.

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The proposal has nothing to do with nationalizing the team. Also, where do you get the idea Lesage created the caisse populaire?
You're right, I used the wrong word. I was referring to the need to redistribute wealth more equitably. Nationalization is distinguished from property redistribution, my mistake. Concerning the Caisse populaire, I wasn't suggesting Lesage created it, but rather used it to make sure it was the main institution that controlled the province's finances.

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You're right, I used the wrong word. I was referring to the need to redistribute wealth more equitably. Nationalization is distinguished from property redistribution, my mistake. Concerning the Caisse populaire, I wasn't suggesting Lesage created it, but rather used it to make sure it was the main institution that controlled the province's finances.
FYI, Caisse populaire is not Caisse de dépôt et placements

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What about Canadian Tire money,will that help?
yes it will help ,doesn't Canadian tire sell hockey gear?
we can buy all the player hockeysticks there .

will buy some of those $9.99 sherwood hockey sticks ,the ones with the illegal curves

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03-25-2009, 04:26 PM
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Didn't they try this in England with a Division 3 soccer team?

The last thing we need, if this board is any indiciation, is popular votes for lineups and such

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03-25-2009, 04:27 PM
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what are u guys nuts? ud be stupid not to do it lol, its such an investment...and who knows maybe one day u end up with 51% of the share, ..who wouldnt want this lol...

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Plus, remember Lazio? They thought they had a great idea by being a team sold on the open stock market. They used to be the cream of the crop. That ownership model killed them. I do not even think they are Serie A anymore.
Didn't that have more to do with the max fixing scandal?

Quite a few soccer teams are on the stock market without issue.

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If i invest 2000$ , which woulsd make me the majority owner , can i be the GM ?
I believe you have to own over 50% of shares to be a majority owner

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I'd easily put 90,000K on it, that's 90 owners out of the picture. DF will change the team name to the Montreal Devilsfanatics and have a picture of Marty Brodeur on the logo.

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Well, the Green Bay Packers would be an exemple...Priced at $200 per share, fans bought 120,010 shares during the 17-week sale, which ended March 16, 1998. As of June 8, 2005, 112,015 people (representing 4,750,934 shares) can lay claim to a franchise ownership interest. Shares of stock include voting rights, but the redemption price is minimal, no dividends are ever paid, the stock cannot appreciate in value - though private sales often exceed the face value of the stock, and stock ownership brings no season ticket privileges. No shareholder may own over 200,000 shares, a safeguard to ensure that no individual can assume control of the club. To run the corporation, a board of directors is elected by the stockholders. The board of directors in turn elect a seven-member Executive Committee (officers) of the corporation, consisting of a president, vice president, treasurer, secretary and three members-at-large. The president is the only officer to draw compensation; the rest of the committee is sitting "gratis."



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Bay_Packers
This is a great post because anyone who is a die hard Packer fan, which I am, also knows that Green Bay is known for having the most loyal, faithful, and passionate fans in the NFL period. Not to say this is because part of the team is owned by the fans, because it is. But also because of the franchises rich history and rivalries.

I have just watched an entire season of Packers football this winter, every game, which was, sadly, a bit of a flop season due to injuries and key players not producing (remind you of any franchise?). The team finished 4-12 which was extremely disappointing considering they were 13-3 the year before and poised at a run for a championship, granted Brett Favre left, but that's another saga. ANYWAYS....

My point is, much like our montreal fanbase, the packers were sold out and fans cheering like crazy even in the last 2 games of the season. The green bay fans will never let their team down. Ever. Now I'm not saying this is because of the team is partly owned by the fans but more so that these fans are completely unwavering, myself included, which is the poster ideal for what any franchise wants out of its fanbase. I do believe we montreal fans are quite alike with these packer fans. The deafening chants of "Kovy! Kovy!" and "Go Habs Go!" can drown out most home team fans at away games rather easily. This is almost unheard of in professional sports. Although I do believe something like that of which the packers did with their shares and ownership can be very good and work out well. I do not believe, however, that this is possible in the NHL.

Well that's my mindless stoner rant...hope someone could make sense of it.

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Listening to Rush Limbaugh a little too much, aren't you...
Yeah, because there is no such thing as socialist policies in Quebec.

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Listening to Rush Limbaugh a little too much, aren't you...
More like Jeff Fillion hehe

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If you think about it the Leafs have the same thing with the teachers pensions plan.

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03-25-2009, 06:33 PM
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Didn't they try this in England with a Division 3 soccer team?
Yeah it happened here in England although they are lower down than division 3.

heres some info.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MyFootballClub

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03-25-2009, 07:06 PM
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Give me an owner with deep pockets over this any day of the week.
I dont want any of that "Oh but we cant spend to the cap we have a responsibility to all our owners from the public."
Plus a team needs one owner that owns the majority of the team otherwise it never works.

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03-25-2009, 07:24 PM
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Pretty disappointed with all the uneducated responses in this thread. Most of you have no idea how it would work.

Read Booky and Gros Bill's posts before saying anything.

LOL FIRE GAINEY I GOT STOX 2 TRADE KOVALEV TO RUSSIA

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Yeah, because there is no such thing as socialist policies in Quebec.
Except this wouldn't be socialist at all. In fact, it would pretty much be a great example of the free market. This is actually not a bad idea, you instantly get a different perspective on things when it's your own money in play. Also, buying the team with 300M$(if that's even possible, the Habs might go for more) cash would mean less debt(none) than Gillett put in to buy the team.

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03-26-2009, 12:16 AM
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What if someone like Balsilie bought 51% of the team.. I'm sure you could still find fans to purchase the other 49% at $1,000 shares.. I know I would.
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03-26-2009, 12:21 AM
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Listening to Rush Limbaugh a little too much, aren't you...
I don't see how he was wrong, heck, our freakin hockey team is the only thing we hadn't thought of nationalizing yet.

What next, nationalize alcohol ? Oh wait.

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My point is, much like our montreal fanbase, the packers were sold out and fans cheering like crazy even in the last 2 games of the season. The green bay fans will never let their team down. Ever. Now I'm not saying this is because of the team is partly owned by the fans but more so that these fans are completely unwavering, myself included, which is the poster ideal for what any franchise wants out of its fanbase. I do believe we montreal fans are quite alike with these packer fans. The deafening chants of "Kovy! Kovy!" and "Go Habs Go!" can drown out most home team fans at away games rather easily. This is almost unheard of in professional sports. Although I do believe something like that of which the packers did with their shares and ownership can be very good and work out well. I do not believe, however, that this is possible in the NHL.

Well that's my mindless stoner rant...hope someone could make sense of it.
Fans here cheer when it goes well and boo the crap out of their team as soon as things start to go bad.

So imagine how many people that would own part of the team would feel they have an even greater right to boo the team...

This team's fanbase is not mature enough to own part of it if you ask me.


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What if someone like Balsilie bought 51% of the team.. I'm sure you could still find fans to purchase the other 49% at $1,000 shares.. I know I would.
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That would be hard considering that Molson owns 19% of the team...

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So people needs to stop bashing rejean Tremblay, as he had this idea 20 years ago in Lance et Compte 3.

The league would never accept that.

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i don't think 300 million is gonna cut for the Habs... that team is more closer to 700 million in value.. maybe even approaching a billion.

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I'd easily put 90,000K on it, that's 90 owners out of the picture. DF will change the team name to the Montreal Devilsfanatics and have a picture of Marty Brodeur on the logo.
And then you and your whole family will get lynched But sure, go ahead

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Similarly to the original post, there is a mockery website going around that is asking Leafs fans if they would commit $1000 to collectively buy the habs (www.buythehabs.com), funny stuff

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