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Game #75 - 03.26.09 | NY Rangers @ Atlanta Trashers | 7:00 PM - MSG (HD)

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03-27-2009, 10:52 AM
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I've not seen anything past Zherdev's goal, but just looking at the fact that Vally made 5 straight stops in the shootout makes me think "WTF?" at our shooters. Talk about wasted opportunity.
I knew that as soon as the team went into the shootout they were going to lose. Atlanta is and has always been one of the best shootout teams. As crappy as Hedberg is during regular games, it's almost impossible to beat him in the shootout. The Rangers should be grateful Vally even gave them a chance by stopping the likes of Kozlov and Kovalchuk.

I also agree that we're not going to do too well in Pittsburgh. Has all the making of a huge disappointing loss. Especially at Melon where their fans moan everytime a player falls... yet clap for Crybaby every time he goes down unassisted and gets a call. It's going to be one of those games you just hope is over asap

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03-27-2009, 11:02 AM
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Also I don't think that two young dmen should ever be paired together in the first place. You need a vet and a young player together so the vet can teach the youngin.
That's where we miss Rozy. Mara is taking care of Sauer. Moris is not exactly a shutdown D. Nether is Redden. There is nothing wrong with pairing two stay-at-home Ds in Staal and Girardi to play with bottom 6 forwads, while Redden-Moris could be helpful upfront and Mara with his kid would provide a necessary relief. That plan failed when ATL start running Kovalchuk every second shift. We needed Renney's Rangers to keep 3 goals advantage, but our forwards were not playng defense. Dubinski had an awful night, probably his worst this season. He is the one who should have taken care of White on his goal, for instance. Gomez was very immobile, almost stationary in his end. And we didn't have Rozy.

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03-27-2009, 11:16 AM
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I wish everyone played as "uninspired" as Zherdev does. Zherdev is the closest thing we have to an elite forward. As a result of our excellent cap management, he will most likely be the closest thing we see to an elite forward for the foreseeable future.
I think you mean, as a result of our excellent cap management he will most likely be the closest thing we see to an elite forward bolting from the team in free agency.

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03-27-2009, 11:23 AM
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doom and gloom. Your team was rocking and rolling before last night. Cheer up emo-ranger posters.

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03-27-2009, 12:01 PM
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Yesterday's game still annoys me. Vally is one reason, but the biggest problem is the ineffective Powerplay, out off all those chances we only got two.

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Zherdev - Last 12 Games:

Goals: 7
Assists: 4
Points: 11
(+/-) +7

I wish everyone played as "uninspired" as Zherdev does. Zherdev is the closest thing we have to an elite forward. As a result of our excellent cap management, he will most likely be the closest thing we see to an elite forward for the foreseeable future.
Zherdev has been producing for sure. I don't get why he's still on the 3rd line . . . Move him up again got dammit.
I don't get why he's sitting out for the 2nd straight shootout either... I mean Gomer and Cally before Z? Bad move there, Torts.

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03-27-2009, 12:16 PM
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Henrik Lundqvist will have played 70 games this season by the time it is over.

Marty Brodeur has won 3 cups, the games played during those 3 seasons were 40, 72, and 73, in seasons where hes played 75+ the Devils have missed the playoffs once, and lost in the first round twice, and the second round once. 75+ games is too much for a goalie, youre not going to win the cup with a ragged goalie, no matter how superawesomeholyfrakgreatestgoalieofalltime he is. the ideal number is probably 65-72, in that range. Sitting Henrik right now was absolutely the right move.

Henrik had played 20 of the last 21 games, if you didnt sit him out last night youd have played him 28 of his last 29 games, and 15 in a row, almost all against playoff caliber teams, or teams that were absolutely red hot at the time.

The Rangers are going to make the playoffs, they are 4 points up on the Panthers with 7 games to go, and 9 points up on Buffalo. They're pretty much in. If they go .500 from here on out, 3-3-1, thats 7 points they got. Florida would have to go 5-1-1 just to tie us (actually we would still win because we have more wins than them), and they have to play Philly, Pittsburgh, a red hot Ottawa, and Washington still...not to mention twice against a red hot Thrashers team as well.

You need to see the forest from the trees, look at the big picture. in the end last nights loss is more or less insignificant, it served its purpose in giving Henrik that 1 day off before he will have to play just a brutal stretch of games, and we still managed to pick up a point.

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03-27-2009, 12:16 PM
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two out of 10 chances theoretically isn't actually a bad outcome (20%). I do believe, however, that the percent increases with an increase in chances, and decreases with less chance (yeah, totally goes against the meaning of per cent, but that's reality). Didn't see a second of the game, but if you get 10 PPs, and the opponent gets three, and your team them all and the other team gives up two, then you should be winning that game. 10 PPs is 1/3 of the game - the other team should've been exhausted. Don't blame the loss on the PP not being 30, 40 or 50%, blame the Rangers for giving up four goals.

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03-27-2009, 12:20 PM
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Scoring a goal with offensively inept linemates who do NOTHING on the play. That play repeated invisible games.

When will people realize you don't need to run around erratically fallilng all over the place like a decapitated chicken, to be considered "playing hard'.

The ENTIRE TEAM plays like ****, and Zherdev gets singled out.

Recorded turnovers:

Antropov - 1
Drury - 1
Morris - 1
Naslund - 1
Sjostrom - 2
Zherdev - 1
Girardi - 1

Compared to his 5 shots taken, 1 goal, and E +/- rating. And the goal that was scored when he was on the ice, he had just jumped on the ice on a line change.

Focus on other players when they horribly turn the puck over in the neutral zone or the defensive zone. The guys who chose to poke check and watch the play as the other team skates around them and buries the puck.

Stop singling out the guy who carried the offense all season long.

Everyone's golden boy Callahan played like crap. He opts to pass the puck on golden opportunities to shoot. For several games now.

Tortorella's line combinations and ice distribution are WORSE then Renney's ever were. His stubborn BS lost us this game.

Knowing Torts from watching Tampa Bay he does have the tendency to lean on certain players. He did the same here in Tampa when he was here.


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03-27-2009, 12:30 PM
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Btw...

What the **** was Naslund thinking when he hopped on the ice during that 5-3?

This is the second time in recent games hes done that and killed a great opportunity.

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Henrik Lundqvist will have played 70 games this season by the time it is over.

Marty Brodeur has won 3 cups, the games played during those 3 seasons were 40, 72, and 73, in seasons where hes played 75+ the Devils have missed the playoffs once, and lost in the first round twice, and the second round once. 75+ games is too much for a goalie, youre not going to win the cup with a ragged goalie, no matter how superawesomeholyfrakgreatestgoalieofalltime he is. the ideal number is probably 65-72, in that range. Sitting Henrik right now was absolutely the right move.

Henrik had played 20 of the last 21 games, if you didnt sit him out last night youd have played him 28 of his last 29 games, and 15 in a row, almost all against playoff caliber teams, or teams that were absolutely red hot at the time.

The Rangers are going to make the playoffs, they are 4 points up on the Panthers with 7 games to go, and 9 points up on Buffalo. They're pretty much in. If they go .500 from here on out, 3-3-1, thats 7 points they got. Florida would have to go 5-1-1 just to tie us (actually we would still win because we have more wins than them), and they have to play Philly, Pittsburgh, a red hot Ottawa, and Washington still...not to mention twice against a red hot Thrashers team as well.

You need to see the forest from the trees, look at the big picture. in the end last nights loss is more or less insignificant, it served its purpose in giving Henrik that 1 day off before he will have to play just a brutal stretch of games, and we still managed to pick up a point.
agree on all points, except for the fact that its a little more significant given the fact that they squandered another 3 goal lead and blew a ton of PP chances.

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03-27-2009, 02:23 PM
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Don't blame the loss on the PP not being 30, 40 or 50%, blame the Rangers for giving up four goals.
Can't do that. Redden wasn't on the ice for any of the four. Staal and Girardi were there. Cannot blame those, only praising, please. As I said earlier absence of Rozy was more than anything else. We scored 4 and were 20% on PP. Should be enough to win.

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03-27-2009, 02:40 PM
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Btw...

What the **** was Naslund thinking when he hopped on the ice during that 5-3?

This is the second time in recent games hes done that and killed a great opportunity.
Probably did it on purpose. I can't wait until he's out of here. Sometimes its seems like he's playing with his head up his behind.

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03-27-2009, 02:50 PM
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Probably did it on purpose. I can't wait until he's out of here. Sometimes its seems like he's playing with his head up his behind.
When he scores he celebrates like his dog died.

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When he scores he celebrates like his dog died.
Haha, "He probably listen's to ABBA before games."

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03-27-2009, 10:59 PM
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I think it's obvious now that Tortorella has a serious problem with Zherdev, and he's not going to be back with the team next season unless something changes.
OK...well how is that going to happen?
Zherdev is one of the few Rangers who has scored and probably has the most talent...so how are you going to replace his scoring and talent?

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