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03-28-2009, 04:13 PM
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Mtl-pit

To Montreal:

Malkin
Dupuis

To Pittsburgh:

A.Kostitysn
S.Kostitsyn
Komisarek
Higgins
1st pick 09'
1st pick 10'

Thoughts???

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03-28-2009, 04:18 PM
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If Komisarek re-signed that would probably make Pittsburgh pretty strong. They certainly wouldn't be lacking wingers anymore. I still doubt they do it. There's no impact player going to Pittsburgh in this deal. Just a lot of solid players.

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03-28-2009, 04:19 PM
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03-28-2009, 04:38 PM
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komaiserk is a free agent take him away from your proposal. If malkin was being traded anonther team is going pay more for him then this.

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03-28-2009, 04:41 PM
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two words: Hell No.

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03-28-2009, 04:43 PM
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Malkin and Crosby are untouchable right now.

It doesn't matter if you offer fair value etc. It just doesn't interest the Pens.

Maybe 1 day we'll have to move Malkin or Crosby but not soon.

If the cap goes down? blah blah blah Ain't happening. There will be other cap casualties before 1 of those 2 and we haven't even had to move those yet.

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03-28-2009, 04:48 PM
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Yeah, Pittsburgh doesn't do this.

Even if Malkin were put on the market, the Pens would get a tonne of better offers.

From an Ottawa perspective, I'd offer Heatley, Volchenkov, Sens' 1st (right now looking potentially like Brayden Schenn) and then some, and that's still probably not enough.

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03-28-2009, 05:10 PM
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No.

1) Because pens fans will want more. What they don't understand is a team > Malkin, or Crosby, or Ovechkin, or Gretzky, or Lemieux, or whoever.

Nobody is going to trade 10 ****in' players, or like 6, or 7 and picks for one ****in' player.

If they do, they should be fired and never, ever, ever hired again.

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03-28-2009, 05:15 PM
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Start with Markov in any package involving Malkin to Montreal.

Then add much, much more.

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03-28-2009, 05:17 PM
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Gotta say Andrei Kostitsyn would look incredible flanking Crosby. As I understand a lot of wingers haven't excelled playing with Crosby because he plays a really fast game at high speed. Andrei is renowned for being able to pull moves and get shots off quickly while in full stride. IMO, Kostitsyn is already a lock to score 40 sometimes in the near future playing with Montreal. Having a career playing alongside Crosby, he's sure to hit 50 at least once.

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03-28-2009, 05:21 PM
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No.

1) Because pens fans will want more. What they don't understand is a team > Malkin, or Crosby, or Ovechkin, or Gretzky, or Lemieux, or whoever.

Nobody is going to trade 10 ****in' players, or like 6, or 7 and picks for one ****in' player.

If they do, they should be fired and never, ever, ever hired again.
First of all, relax. And secondly,

Philadelphia Flyers traded Ron Hextall, Peter Forsberg, Steve Duchesne, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Chris Simon, 1st round selection (Jocelyn Thibault) in 1993, 1st round selection (later traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs, later traded to the Washington Capitals - Nolan Baumgartner) in 1994 and cash to the Quebec Nordiques for Eric Lindros.

I know it'll never happen, just sayin'.

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03-28-2009, 05:25 PM
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First of all, relax. And secondly,

Philadelphia Flyers traded Ron Hextall, Peter Forsberg, Steve Duchesne, Kerry Huffman, Mike Ricci, Chris Simon, 1st round selection (Jocelyn Thibault) in 1993, 1st round selection (later traded to the Toronto Maple Leafs, later traded to the Washington Capitals - Nolan Baumgartner) in 1994 and cash to the Quebec Nordiques for Eric Lindros.

I know it'll never happen, just sayin'.
Colorado got cups... Philly didn't.

Right now, I agree with pens fans it's stupid to trade either of them (Crosby, or Malkin) but when it comes to it, I guarantee pens fans are going to be a little mad, cause they didn't get pretty much a second franchise in return.

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03-28-2009, 05:32 PM
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Colorado got cups... Philly didn't.

Right now, I agree with pens fans it's stupid to trade either of them (Crosby, or Malkin) but when it comes to it, I guarantee pens fans are going to be a little mad, cause they didn't get pretty much a second franchise in return.
Yeah I agree. If it does eventually happen, it'll be tough to make a good trade.

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03-28-2009, 05:45 PM
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Sergei Kostitsyn and Chris Higgins aren't worth much.

Andrei Kostisyn is more talented, but as inconsistent than Satan.

Canadiens aren't going to trade their 1st pick when they're hosting the draft and it's the franchise's centenary.

Komisarek is an UFA.

Penguins won't bother unless Markov in included in a package deal with 2 other quality players, and some prospects and draft picks.

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03-28-2009, 07:23 PM
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For Malkin, you'd probably be better off giving Pittsburgh Montreal's whole roster, then Shero will send back the **** he doesn't want.

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03-28-2009, 07:25 PM
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No.

1) Because pens fans will want more. What they don't understand is a team > Malkin, or Crosby, or Ovechkin, or Gretzky, or Lemieux, or whoever.

Nobody is going to trade 10 ****in' players, or like 6, or 7 and picks for one ****in' player.

If they do, they should be fired and never, ever, ever hired again.
Philly says whuddup

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03-28-2009, 07:25 PM
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Pitt fans won't accept... understandably so.

but from my pov, the only reason I'd be ok with it from a habs pov is because we have a boatload of depth when it comes to complementary young talented (and unproven) players. That and because we've been without a true star player for decades now...

Call me biased or crazy or whatever, but if I was sitting with Crosby and Malkin on my team, and an average pool of prospects/young players coming up, I'd have to give this offer serious consideration (assuming that it was with Komisarek signed/willing to sign a long term deal)

think about it...

Pens with Crosby, Stall, down the middle, Kost, Kost jr, Kunitz, Higgins on the wings, and Tangradi/Caputi/Zabotel in the pipeline... that's a pretty solid group of young talented top 6 players that could keep the franchise loaded for the next decade.

Add to 1st round picks, and Komisarek (one of the better young physical dmen in the league), and I dare contend that this kind of return might just justify moving a top 5 player such as Malkin IN A CAP WORLD...

Malkin's cap hit the next 4 years is 8.7M... basically what Komi/Kost/Higgins will cost the next 3-4 years.

I dunno, maybe keeping the "twin towers" is a no-brainer. Maybe they can find a way to keep enough depth/talent around Sid and Geno to be a regular contender (they did reach the cup finals last year, but let's not forget that they paid heavily to add hossa, who is no longer there)... but watching this year unfold, and looking at what their lineup looks like moving forward, it's hard to see where they will be able to add enough talented complementary while paying Crosby/Malkin/Staal/Fleury what they are paying them.

While it may make the fans happy to keep Sid and Geno, reminding them of the Lemieux/Jagr glory days, in the cap era moving one of the two(max contract) guys for the right collection of young (cheap) talented players and picks seems to me to be the smarter move if they want to be contenders year in year out.

It could work for both teams for a team like the habs (or the Yotes... Kings... other team with lot's of young talented depth), but I think the kind of return he'd generate could cripple teams who lack young depth and already have lot's of $$ locked up in older players.

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03-28-2009, 07:26 PM
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03-28-2009, 09:14 PM
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If the Pens were to trade Malkin it would be to a West team so it wouldn't come back to bite them in the ass.

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03-28-2009, 09:23 PM
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Colorado got cups... Philly didn't.

Right now, I agree with pens fans it's stupid to trade either of them (Crosby, or Malkin) but when it comes to it, I guarantee pens fans are going to be a little mad, cause they didn't get pretty much a second franchise in return.
Yea but first they needed a goalie, and here we go Patrick Roy

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03-28-2009, 09:32 PM
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No from a Habs' POV.

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What they don't understand is a team > Malkin, or Crosby, or Ovechkin, or Gretzky, or Lemieux, or whoever.
Depends on the team...

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No. Other thoughts come to mind but will stick with that one.

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To the OP: You made this almost exact proposal 1½ months ago ... that one was rightly rejected by the Penguins fans, what made you think that they would accept this one?

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=606006

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