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Which star players has your team had to trade away for salary concerns?

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09-06-2004, 05:50 PM
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Blake
Palffy
Allison now
Just Blake.

Palffy is hardly considered "let go" anymore because of economic reasons, when the Kings are apparently the team offering him the highest contract.

Allison is let go because of his health, not his money. He missed the past season and a half and essentially took hold of the first line center role until he returned. Thus, the Kings were stuck with Stumpel, Armstrong, Belanger, Pirnes as their four centers.

He also said he'd been symptom free since April or May, yet NOTHING was reported until June/July. Kings don't want that kind of baggage.

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Tons of players during 92-98, the best one was Chris Gratton though, this was when he was above average.

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I would love to lose the likes of LeClair, Amonte, and Burke.

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Jagr
Kovy
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Jagr
Kovy
Straka
Kaspar
Hatcher
Nedved
Lalime

Lalime wasn't a dump though, he was just demanding too much money after 1 above avg. season.

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I know Pavel Bure wasn't dealt explicitly from Vancouver because of salary, but I'm sure it was one of the reasons.

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Alex Mogilny to New Jersey for Brendan Morrison and Dennis Pederson.

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Not really stars, but the Avs had to skins some role player while they were in Big Mac and the ownership was in flux. Ricci being the most notable. The Rangers also made a habit off of signing our free agents (Lefevre, Kaspar, Kamensky, Keane, DeVries, and ast coach Trotier.)

Sakic was close to being taken on that offersheet.

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Caps trades in recent memory that were salary-driven included Jagr ($11M/yr), Gonchar (arbitration eligible), Lang ($5M/yr).

Somewhere between a salary deal and a rebuilding move was the Bondra trade. Laich projects to be a nice lunchpail role player, but you don't trade a 14-year team veteran, when he's aging and set to make $4.5M, without it being salary-driven.

Hockey trades made simply to accelerate the rebuilding effort include Nylander, Konowalchuk, Grier, and Carter. In particular, nabbing Klepis for Grier and Aulin for Carter were offers just too good to pass up for the team's GM. Konowalchuk and Nylander were nearing UFA status and not interested in remaining, long term.

So... yeah. It sucked. At least Ovechkin's the real McCoy and the team will be terrible heading into the Crosby derby. The timing could not be better.

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Teemu Selanne, that was salary dump.

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09-07-2004, 06:25 AM
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Salary cap concerns

i think if they do implement a salary cap they will have to give teams a grace period or do like in the nba a hard cap with a luxury tax.. The high payroll teams will have to get rid of all their players Detriot, New York, Colorado, i seriously if jagr had to be released legally you cannot void his contract he will sue the rangers and the league and win, and the same goes for holik and any other high priced player.. The league has to wait until all of these big contracts expire

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Among the trades mentioned here there are few which actually qualify for the subject of this thread:

*Brian Leetch was IMO not even a salary dump, more a move which signalled the rebuilding of the Rangers.
*The Panthers dealing the Bure brothers was obviously a salary dump, but this was more of a business decision to lower salary and spend it better than that the team was forced to do so.
*Zhamnov was an impending UFA on a team which had no shot at the playoffs and traded him to get at least something in return.
*Blake was a future UFA who demanded more money to sign than his team was willing to give, and hence would walk after the season. Was traded to get something in return instead.

Very few teams were actually forced to trade their players. Pittsburgh is the most glaring recent example, the Palffy deal is a good example and Edmonton has had to on occassions as well. The Caps which are mentioned however never were; they made the decision to rebuild and the business decision to shed salary. In no way were they forced though.

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09-07-2004, 11:57 AM
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The Sens traded Yashin and McEachern IMO to dump salaries (Yashin obviously had other issues as well). The Sens weren't going to qualify Bonk or Lalime this past summer so they were dealt for draft picks - although both players clearly needed to get out of Ottawa I think salary played a big role in those 2 moves.

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09-07-2004, 12:49 PM
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Al MacInnis
Mike Vernon (the first time)
Joe Nieuwendyk (contract dispute)
Doug Gilmour (contract dispute)
Gary Roberts (sort of. he wanted a return to the East, not directly money related though)
Theo Fleury (not entirely a salary dump, but a deadline deal on a pending UFA that couldn't be re-signed)
Bob Boughner
Chris Drury (sort of, but good hockey trade)
Derek Morris (sort of, but good hockey trade)
Val Bure (sort of, but good riddance)
Rob Niedermayer
Gary Suter? ( can't remember the details surrounding why he was dealt when he was)

I'm not sure most of these (or any of these) were flat out 'we've got to pay the bills, dump salary NOW' kind of deals, but in each case finances were the, or a primary, driver as to why the player was traded...and in most cases obviously that makes it challenging to get good return

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Quote:
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Among the trades mentioned here there are few which actually qualify for the subject of this thread:

*Brian Leetch was IMO not even a salary dump, more a move which signalled the rebuilding of the Rangers.
*The Panthers dealing the Bure brothers was obviously a salary dump, but this was more of a business decision to lower salary and spend it better than that the team was forced to do so.


The Caps which are mentioned however never were; they made the decision to rebuild and the business decision to shed salary. In no way were they forced though.
I think if you choose to rebuild like the Panthers, Rangers & Caps have done, then you have no choice but to shed salary. Having lived thru both the Bure era in FL and post-Bure era, I can tell you FL had no choice but to trade Pavel (both because he just quit playing for the Panthers and thus he just wasn't worth his $10 million contract). The Panthers' new owners have complained about losing money for the last few yrs and this was right after Pavel was traded. The team was definitely forced to do so...both monetarily and because Pavel stopped playing.

I see the Rangers in a different category than the Caps or the Panthers though. They acquire Jagr and his huge contract (while only shedding a little salary in that deal with Carter going the other way). If the Caps had picked up some of his salary, then they could've gotten a better return but they were only interested in getting rid of Jagr's contract (thus it was a salary dump). No one in their right mind would take Holik for what he produces with that contract. Leetch was and still is a very productive #1 d-man...young defensemen like Tyutin & Pock would benefit greatly from his experience even if for one more yr. But he was making $6.4 million next season so of course they would have to deal him when they picked up Jagr. Yes it was a move that was based in the desire to rebuild but it was also monetarily motivated.

Those situations are ones like Drake1588 was discussing with the Bondra move. Yes it was a one based on rebuilding but it still has to do with salary issues.

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