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Belarusian Trio A. Kostitsyn Vs S. Kostitsyn Vs Grabovski

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04-01-2009, 10:01 PM
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I think if SK got Grabs minutes he wouldn't have a such hard time...
Well, once SK earns those minutes I'm sure he'll prove one of us right

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04-02-2009, 03:30 AM
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Well, once SK earns those minutes I'm sure he'll prove one of us right
I'll just add that you're kidding yourself if you think Sergei wouldn't be getting those minutes in Toronto and Grabovski would in Montreal.

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04-02-2009, 05:37 AM
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04-02-2009, 06:33 AM
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04-02-2009, 06:41 AM
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I'll just add that you're kidding yourself if you think Sergei wouldn't be getting those minutes in Toronto and Grabovski would in Montreal.
He'd be tied for third in scoring with Koivu. Maybe he wouldn't have gotten a chance, but you can't argue that he wouldn't have deserved the time based on his year.

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04-02-2009, 08:28 AM
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He'd be tied for third in scoring with Koivu. Maybe he wouldn't have gotten a chance, but you can't argue that he wouldn't have deserved the time based on his year.
Yes, but the thing is, Grabs wouldn't have had a chance to showcase his play in MTL this year. He got this chance because the Leafs are a lottery team who wants to give time and experience to it's young players whereas the Habs were a stacked team contending for the Cup (with the results we know...). So his good play is mostly due to the role he's been given in Toronto, something he would never have experienced in Montreal. Being a center, he would have either been switched to the wing, or have played on the 4th. He's playing on the Leafs' top 2 lines...that's the difference.

Sergei has mostly played on 3rd and 4th lines this year, even though he was given every chances to play with the big guys in the top 2 lines, he blew it. He played good with his brother and Robert Lang, but since Lang is out he hasn't showed much.

So while Grabovski's talent is undeniable, I think his production also comes with the role he was given in Toronto. Playing the PP, he's bound to have good chances and he has the chance to play with other talented players. Not saying he's other players' product, but it clearly helped him, like when he played with the Kostitsyns last year.

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04-02-2009, 08:41 AM
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04-02-2009, 08:49 AM
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Way too early to tell.

The only one who has developed any degree of consistency is Senior Kostitsyn. Grabo has produced at different paces through the year. At some points he looks like he's going to score a ppg, other times not so much. And Junior Kostitsyn has been mired in a sophmore slump.

In the future should the all develop consistency I would want them on my team as follows.

S. Kostitsyn (best 2-way player, very good playmaker, fantastic shot)
Grabo (best puckhandler, best playmaker)
A. Kostitsyn (best shot, goal scorer)

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04-02-2009, 08:53 AM
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Well, allow me to try.

Sergei made the NHL at 20, outplaying a 24 years old Grabovski to do so. Sergei had a setback this year but he's still way ahead in development than Grabovski at the same age. All signs points to Sergei being the superior player down the line.
Grabs is still a rookie in the NHL. A rookie, at any age, is tough in the NHL.

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04-02-2009, 09:20 AM
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Andrei







Grabovski
Sergei
This one gets my vote. Andrei is a solidified top-6 NHL player and I would sign him to a five-year contract no problem. The others are totally unproven but Sergei has more potential. Grabovski's shot is a muffin.

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04-02-2009, 09:33 AM
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Seriously, as a Leafs fan, I can easily say they all suck. There's no need to argue over these guys. That being said Andrei sucks the least of the three, but they're all bad.

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04-02-2009, 10:03 AM
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I really like Grabo's game but Andrei clearly has much more upside

Id rank them like this

Andrei
Grabo

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04-02-2009, 10:18 AM
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It's funny how last year at the age of 24 Grabovski was handed on a platter the 2nd line center job between Andrei Kostitsyn and Kovalev and absolutely failed and was sent to the AHL. He has played well this year at the age of 25 but Leaf fans around here are writing Sergei off at 21 because he hasn't stayed in the NHL all year.

Right now it is:

Andrei
Grabovski
Sergei

In 2-3 Years:

Andrei
Sergei
Grabovski

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04-02-2009, 10:21 AM
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I think Sergei will have the highest ceiling, but it remains to be seen whether or not he makes it there.

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Grabs is still a rookie in the NHL. A rookie, at any age, is tough in the NHL.
Good thing he only played 24 games last year and not that 25th so Leaf fans can use the rookie excuse.

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If I'm building a team, I go with Grabovski.
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04-02-2009, 10:23 AM
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Since you asked who I'd want on my team and not who I think will be better/score the most points/slice the most pineapples...

Andrei
Sergei
Grabo

Grabovski has tons of talent but he's just not very good without the puck and I don't dig the diving and the showboating. I do dig the curly locks though, he needs to keep those flowing.

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I can understand people that don't watch Andrei closely can say he's not very impressive...he doesn't have the numbers to help him and he tends to take a game off here and there, but those who watch him every game can see the huge potential this guy have, let's not forget that it's only his 2nd full NHL year.

Hopefully he can take it to another level next year, he needs to use his insane shot more...he could explode at any moment.

As for Sergei and Grabs, they will be OK NHLers but I don't see anything special in them really...IMO they will never reach the slewfooting ability that Andrei has

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Grabovski has tons of talent but he's just not very good without the puck and I don't dig the diving and the showboating. I do dig the curly locks though, he needs to keep those flowing.
watching most of his games, grabo has gotten far better away from the puck, i have not seen him dive once, and the only example of showboating i can think of is when he gave the euro version of the finger to the montreal crowd after being kicked out of the game. which i thought was hilarious.

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Hahahahha, Habs fans and Leafs fans taking over this , especially Habs fans ......

I would rather see what other people think of them

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I think if SK got Grabs minutes he wouldn't have a such hard time...
Sergei Kostitsyn: 14:08 minutes per game with 2:22 PP time per game

Mikhail Grabovski: 16:15 minutes per game with 2:12 minutes per game

OOOOOOO the difference is ASTONISHING

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Hahahahha, Habs fans and Leafs fans taking over this , especially Habs fans ......

I would rather see what other people think of them
Yes, please, we need more opinions from people that don't watch them play.

Do you really think that when someone makes a poll about some player his fans won't give most of the feedback ?


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Andrei Kostitsyn.

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