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04-06-2009, 11:25 PM
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If we signed Gilroy wouldn't it make signing Bouwmeester practically impossible without moving another dman?
so ? we dont have room for a 6-7 million d man. a pp qb would be more of a pressing and smarter need. jbo would hancuff us moneywise

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04-07-2009, 01:08 AM
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The only problem i see with Gilroy is that he will ask for too much, for a player who never played in the nhl to ask for 1 million dollars plus is rediculious. Especially when Burrows are only going to make 2 million and Kesler making 1.75 million.

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so ? we dont have room for a 6-7 million d man. a pp qb would be more of a pressing and smarter need. jbo would hancuff us moneywise
So $3M for a 24 year old rookie is smart, but $6M for a 25 year old allstar handcuffs us? It is not like we have any untradeable contracts.


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04-07-2009, 01:48 AM
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It's probably been asked before, but would Gilroy be eligible to play for Vancouver this season?

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04-07-2009, 02:50 AM
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It's probably been asked before, but would Gilroy be eligible to play for Vancouver this season?
Not in the playoffs.

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Not in the playoffs.
Why not.

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04-07-2009, 04:07 AM
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Gilroy for 1 mil or Koltsov for 3 mil?


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04-07-2009, 04:20 AM
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Gilroy for 1 mil or Koltsov for 3 mil?

Dream on. Both of them will cost pretty much at least 2-3mil.

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04-07-2009, 04:41 AM
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Why not.
You need to sign with a team before the trade deadline in order to be eligable to play in the playoffs.

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04-07-2009, 11:53 AM
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Gilroy will go to the leafs because he has a better chance of playing there.

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04-07-2009, 11:56 AM
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With regards to Oberg, I went to school with his parents. Good people. I don't know Evan, but I suspect he has tons of character. You guys might have come up with a real steal with this FA signing. As a Flames fan, I'm envious.

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04-07-2009, 11:57 AM
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Gilroy will go to the leafs because he has a better chance of playing there.
The Canucks have an abundance of puck moving defenseman?

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04-07-2009, 12:02 PM
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I dont think I said they did...

Gilroy is going to want to play lots and the leafs can give him that and we can't.

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04-07-2009, 12:08 PM
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I dont think I said they did...

Gilroy is going to want to play lots and the leafs can give him that and we can't.
I disagree. we have at least one slot opening in our top 6 with the (likely) departure of Ohlund. turning Ohlund into a puck moving, PP QB is exactly what our defense needs.

Mitchell-Salo
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and really, the only player behind Gilroy on the depth chart that plays at all a similiar game is Gave Boner, who Gilroy *should* be able to beat out. (I say that without having seen as much as a highlight clip of either, just going on what I've read here...)

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Gilroy is going to want to play lots and the leafs can give him that and we can't.
Really?

These are guys that the Leafs have signed and will be *ahead* of him on the depth chart (minus a couple fringe guys):

Kaberle
Kubina
Schenn
Van Ryn
Finger
White
Stralman

Lot's of icetime? I don't think so.

Sure Burke can trade one or two guys - but he hasn't yet (and that STILL leaves a pretty full blueline), and that's the blueline Gilroy & his agent sees. I'm not that familiar with the Leafs farm system - so who knows what other blueliners they might have which could also fight for a spot in the lineup.

Canucks have five defensemen signed for next season (SOB will be re-signed of course). There's an opening in the top six by default (nobody really coming up via the system as yet) - especially for what skills Gilroy brings.

Yeah Van Rynn gets injured all the time - but we have his twin brother named Salo.


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04-07-2009, 12:37 PM
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The leafs are in rebuld and i'd be very surprised if both of Kaberle and Kubina are back with the leafs.

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04-07-2009, 12:47 PM
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Gilroy apparently had 25 contact offers last season.

I really hope Gillis doesn't get in a bidding war for an unproven player. The college signings he has made so far are low risk and solid. Tying up that much cap space in a college player would be a mistake IMO.

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04-07-2009, 12:49 PM
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The leafs are in rebuld and i'd be very surprised if both of Kaberle and Kubina are back with the leafs.
True I expect Burke to trade one of them but not both. You need to keep some good vets around to help Schenn. Can't dump all the vets as it would put too much pressure on him right now. Plus Kaberle has a cap friendly contract and he wants to stay in Toronto - Burke won't unload him unless somebody overpays for him.

Still, as I said - both guys are still Leafs right now.

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04-07-2009, 03:58 PM
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Dream on. Both of them will cost pretty much at least 2-3mil.
Damn, I think I'd throw a 1 year 3.5 mil deal at Koltsov then.

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04-07-2009, 05:57 PM
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No guarantee that Gilroy is going to make the jump straight to the NHL next season, no matter how hyped he is.

Bieksa was a drafted college player and he spent some time with the Moose. I'd say odds are better than even that Gilroy would spend at least some time wearing the Antlers if he signed with the Canucks.

Regardless, Gilroy would hardly 'handcuff' us. All entry level contracts are two way deals, so he could be shuttled down to the Moose if we were to pursue, say, Bouwmeester.

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04-07-2009, 06:22 PM
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The thing about Gilroy is that he's not going to be on an entry level deal because of his age and so it's unlikely he's going to take a two-way deal from anyone.

That said, if it means adding a long term asset to the organization, maybe they feel it's worthwhile to potentially spend $1.5-2 million while having him play at least part of the season on the Moose next year. On the Leafs board it's been mentioned that Kypreos says Burke doesn't want to go over $1.2-1.5 million/year in base salary for Gilroy, so maybe the bidding war won't get as intense as we think it might.

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04-07-2009, 06:24 PM
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No guarantee that Gilroy is going to make the jump straight to the NHL next season, no matter how hyped he is.
With 25 teams rumored to be offering him a contract, I would think that he and his agent would only go to a team that gives him a handshake agreement that he will be in the NHL next year. He seems to have plenty of leverage here...

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04-09-2009, 04:32 AM
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New York Native. I highly doubt he will sign all the way out in the West coast. I do hope the Vancouver and Toronto are the favorites are true. But he will probalby end up in the East which I don't care.

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04-09-2009, 03:52 PM
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The thing about Gilroy is that he's not going to be on an entry level deal because of his age and so it's unlikely he's going to take a two-way deal from anyone.

That said, if it means adding a long term asset to the organization, maybe they feel it's worthwhile to potentially spend $1.5-2 million while having him play at least part of the season on the Moose next year. On the Leafs board it's been mentioned that Kypreos says Burke doesn't want to go over $1.2-1.5 million/year in base salary for Gilroy, so maybe the bidding war won't get as intense as we think it might.
This was covered ad nauseum with Brunnstrom.

He won't be limited to dollar amounts, but since it will be his first contract, it WILL be a 2 way deal.

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This was covered ad nauseum with Brunnstrom.

He won't be limited to dollar amounts, but since it will be his first contract, it WILL be a 2 way deal.
Brunnstrom was limited to an entry-level deal. He was only 23 when he signed. Gilroy is an unrestricted free agent not bound by the entry-level system.

EDIT: Here's how it works:

AgeLength of ELC
18-213 years
22-232 years
241 year
25+Not Subject

Age is determined as of September 15th. So since Gilroy will be 25 he's not bound by the restrictions of the entry level system (two-way contract being one aspect). Brunnstrom was.


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