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04-12-2009, 07:31 AM
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I'd never want Akost traded. We have no one else with that skill set in our system. He has 35-40 goal potential.

If we had a superstar, I'd want Andrei to play with him.

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04-12-2009, 07:49 AM
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I wouldn't trade them... Sergei is the key to get Andrei motivated.

He's the dog of the two and it's been though for him this year but he'll come back strong.

Giving up on them is really premature.

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04-12-2009, 07:52 AM
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I'll answer that for you. They'll point out Parise, Getzlaf, Richards, and Carters stats in their second full season and say that it's not out of the question for AKost to become as good as those guys once he's given the chance. Sad, I know.
I'd rather have an excellent Parise instead of hoping for an excellent AKost

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04-12-2009, 08:16 AM
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I'd rather have an excellent Parise instead of hoping for an excellent AKost
Well I'd rather have a Crosby centering a line with Ovechkin and Malkin than Parise or Andre...

But guess what?

It ain't gonna happen.

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04-12-2009, 08:55 AM
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Plekanec Kostitsyn Kostitsyn Montreal's 1st for Lecavalier and TB 2nd
I would think it would take more than that to land Vinny.

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04-12-2009, 09:26 AM
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They'll be part of a package for Lecavalier.
I don't know if you're serious about this, but it's a possibility...

If not for Lecavalier, I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on another top notch Canadian player with grit and skills, sacrificing the Kostitsyn brothers.

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04-12-2009, 11:45 AM
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Its going to depend if they finally wake the **** up in the playoffs. If they dont, not much.

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04-12-2009, 12:07 PM
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I would think it would take more than that to land Vinny.
Add Plekanec + O'Byrne to the Kost Bros, and you can get Lecavalier. TB needs to find money somewhere.

Thye Kost Bros might become star players... But not in Montreal.

Too bad !

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04-12-2009, 12:43 PM
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Trading them would be stupid. It's just their 2nd year for both of them. If every team traded players because they weren't producing after 2seasons, a lot of teams would have lost key players.

Note that A.Kost 49Goals in 2 seasons, that's 24.5 G average which isn't too shabby especially considering a bad season for him is 23G.

Both of them had great 1st seasons, now that they have a bad second we need to trade them?..They're not allowed to have a 2nd chance?
They messed up this year. Maybe they won't be impressive in the POs too.

But we have to be patient enough to at least give them a second chance next year.
What if they do have great seasons next year, 60-70ish each with A.Kost breaking 30G mark??..What would their value be at that time?..
If they still have disappointing season, there value won't be lower than it is now seeing as they'll still be young.

We need to keep them unless it means getting a huge impactful superstar

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04-12-2009, 01:17 PM
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i'm as frustrated as everyone else that A.Kost didn't improve on last season, but then again I also remember that not that long ago a 23 goal scorer would have been a godsend for us...

they are too young an too talented to be given up on at this point, and considering that they are both coming off a difficult season (on/off the ice), it's likely that their value to other teams is no where near what their value is to us, both now and potential wise.

so, for me, the only way I'd move them is if they were part of a package for a superstar in the Lecavalier/Kovalchuk mode, and that is clearly unlikely.

trading them for pics or prospect as someone mentioned would be sheer lunacy... both kost brothers are doing well for where we got them (everyone forgets that kost is still ahead of many other 2003 first rounders, development wise, and he is only in his 2nd full season), why would we take a step back and risk ending up with worse players?

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04-12-2009, 01:24 PM
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Kovalev had a bad year then a good year then a bad one again. maybe its just the russian tradition. plus they will be better team players once they learn to talk french and english

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04-12-2009, 01:30 PM
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Kovalev had a bad year then a good year then a bad one again. maybe its just the russian tradition. plus they will be better team players once they learn to talk french and english
mastering the English language should be a good start... And maybe Italian

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04-12-2009, 03:02 PM
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Sergei could have some value for the Hawks as well, because of Kane.

However, I think it is time Habs fans realize Timmins and Co. totally missed the boat in 2003.

Carter, Richards, Parise, Getzlaf... all big-time leaders nowadays. Kostitsyn has been given a lot of chances, but can't seem to get rid of his inconsistency. Let's just hope he can help the team and not hinder its chances in this year's playoffs.
From Chicago, I would love to get Brouwer, Byfuglien, Barker and/or Skille... for the bros, I think we would have to add something more just to get Barker alone, but perhaps not... Brouwer, while not a great skater would add dearly needed size, goal scoring potential and physical aggression on our top lines, Byfuglien I'm still not sure, he showed he could score and is built like a tank, but his decision making seem inconsistent, and Skille would be a throw-in, I don't think he has alot of scoring potential, but he has good size, is very fast and I think play very good defensively, could be great with Laps and Lats.

But that's probably just wishful thinking, if they get ever get traded it better be for something worthwhile...

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04-12-2009, 03:10 PM
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Vincent Lecavalier
Martin St Louis

vs

Andrei Kostitsyn
Sergei Kostitsyn
Tomas Plekanec
Chris Higgins
Ryan O'Byrne
Kyle Chipchura
2010 1st rounder
2011 1st rounder
2012 1st rounder
2013 1st rounder
2014 1st rounder


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04-12-2009, 03:14 PM
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I don't know if you're serious about this, but it's a possibility...

If not for Lecavalier, I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger on another top notch Canadian player with grit and skills, sacrificing the Kostitsyn brothers.
agreed

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04-12-2009, 03:19 PM
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Vincent Lecavalier
Martin St Louis

vs

Andrei Kostitsyn
Sergei Kostitsyn
Tomas Plekanec
Chris Higgins
Ryan O'Byrne
Kyle Chipchura
2010 1st rounder
2011 1st rounder
2012 1st rounder
2013 1st rounder
2014 1st rounder

Sounds like what Ditka did to get Ricky...

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Can we maybe try to pry Jonathan Toews from Chicago? Thats my boy right there.

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Can we maybe try to pry Jonathan Toews from Chicago? Thats my boy right there.
Might be really tough, but that would be awesome... they'd need a center back, cause after Toews they have Sharp and Bolland, but I think Sharp is mostly used as a winger, and Bolland isn't exactly a scoring center... perhaps if we ship the whole '2nd line', Kost bros and Pleks ?

Or a 3-way trade with Pittsburgh... but I won't risk myself making a proposal.

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Vincent Lecavalier
Martin St Louis
2009 1st rounder

vs

Andrei Kostitsyn
Sergei Kostitsyn
Tomas Plekanec
Chris Higgins
Ryan O'Byrne
Kyle Chipchura
2010 1st rounder
2011 1st rounder
2012 1st rounder
2013 1st rounder
2014 1st rounder

hmmm
might consider that...

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04-13-2009, 02:46 AM
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Can we maybe try to pry Jonathan Toews from Chicago? Thats my boy right there.
No chance.

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I wonder how the fanbase would feel if Lapierre and Latendresses were part of the infamous Lacavalier trade?

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I wonder how the fanbase would feel if Lapierre and Latendresses were part of the infamous Lacavalier trade?
Let me turn the question around... How do you think the Lightning's fans would feel if Lapierre and Latendresse were part of the infamous Lecavalier trade?

To ask the question is answering it, isn't it? Tampa Bay will want more than 3rd line players in return. They'll want higher potential.

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Let me turn the question around... How do you think the Lightning's fans would feel if Lapierre and Latendresse were part of the infamous Lecavalier trade?

To ask the question is answering it, isn't it? Tampa Bay will want more than 3rd line players in return. They'll want higher potential.
They could be part of a larger package trade. My questions still stands.

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I wonder how the fanbase would feel if Lapierre and Latendresses were part of the infamous Lacavalier trade?
It's funny because everyone wanted to trade Lats 4-5 months ago. Now that he is playing great ppl don't... Wait until A.Kost explodes, you guys will ****.

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Can we maybe try to pry Jonathan Toews from Chicago? Thats my boy right there.
I don't see them trading away their young captain.

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