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04-13-2009, 02:59 PM
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Hack Todd doesn't know anything about hockey, he's an idiot from Nebraska who's never played in his life. He's also a socialist moron who votes NDP (hence the GILLETT CAPITALIST GREED parts).

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04-13-2009, 03:01 PM
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Hack Todd doesn't know anything about hockey, he's an idiot from Nebraska who's never played in his life. He's also a socialist moron who votes NDP (hence the GILLETT CAPITALIST GREED parts).
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While I disagree with pretty much the entire rant, there is absolutely no need to attack someone personally or bring in unrelated and absurd political stretching into it.

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04-13-2009, 03:08 PM
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You'd think they would at least give you Novocaine before the extraction begins, which will be as soon as they drop the first puck in Boston. (It will go on until the Canadiens are eliminated - approximately six games later.
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What more could you want? A Stanley Cup? Get real. Not this decade. Maybe not this lifetime. But at least you have your barber-pole jerseys.
always nice to read jack todd in the morning...

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04-13-2009, 03:16 PM
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While I disagree with pretty much the entire rant, there is absolutely no need to attack someone personally or bring in unrelated and absurd political stretching into it.
Why not? Hack Todd is a bully who attacks people personally and visciously all the time?

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Jack Todd is a moron. Thank god he only writes his drivel once a week.

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04-13-2009, 03:28 PM
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The great thing about Jack Todd is that if you disagree with one of his "articles" all you have to do is wait a couple of months and he'll write one with the complete opposite point of view.

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04-13-2009, 03:44 PM
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Well I don't read the Quebec papers so I don't know specific writers history, but this article was written by someone who knows little about Hockey and has an agenda behind his words. The agenda? not sure exactly but I believe its partly the removal of our team ownership and Management?

Whatever he is trying to say, is BS.

I have never been happier with the management and ownership and direction of the team since the 70's.

Not sure I will be as passionate of this team if all this changes.

Anyway, I am not one too look at things with worse case scenario glasses so I believe that the team will stay the course and will build into a Stanley Cup team in the next few years, as the building blocks come together. This team is filled with promising youngsters like never before. I love this team, and can't stand the idiotic journalism that it has supporting it. The only thing I can do about it is not read that crap. The only time I do is here, when it is quoted etc.

So maybe we can all do are part and no longer support these idiotic journalists and their News paper/magazine/broadcast.etc.

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04-13-2009, 03:50 PM
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Well I don't read the Quebec papers so I don't know specific writers history, but this article was written by someone who knows little about Hockey and has an agenda behind his words. The agenda? not sure exactly but I believe its partly the removal of our team ownership and Management?

Whatever he is trying to say, is BS.
First part is true but no way is Hack Todd clever enough to form some sort of agenda. He's a drooling idiot.

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04-13-2009, 04:01 PM
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First part is true but no way is Hack Todd clever enough to form some sort of agenda. He's a drooling idiot.
well I was assuming that the agenda is his boss's agenda that he is made to push. Actually that is the agenda I believe most of the Quebec media pushes no?

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04-13-2009, 04:03 PM
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I think people have covered the basics here.

A few points:

(1) Jack Todd is a moron
(2) Jack Todd is a moron
(3) Jack Todd is a moron
(4) Jack Todd is a moron
(5) Jack Todd is a moron
(6) Jack Todd doesn't deserve to have the same first name as Jack Bauer
(7) This thread is as stupid as Jack Todd

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04-13-2009, 04:06 PM
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And your point is? Obviously Gillett bought the Canadiens to be profitable, but it's not like money is the only thing he cares about.

He's been deeply respectful of the history of the team and is quite obviously a fan as well. I really don't get how there can be any hate at all towards the man -- he's been a great owner and I hope he doesn't sell the team.

The reality is.....every owner - to (perhaps) varying degrees wants to win a championship!

But, most owners are clueless about how to go about it - which is why their teams rarely - if ever - truely compete for champoinship - let alone win one!

There are exceptions to this rule - Mike Illitch in Detroit is a great example. Illitch demands from upper team management that his team be a true Cup competitor - and on an annual basis - Illitch wants results - he doesn't accept excuses.

I hope whoever buys the Habs will run the team like Illitch does the Wings or like David Molson ran the Habs when the Molson FAMILY ownwed the team.

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04-13-2009, 04:52 PM
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Enough said, this centennial season has been a disaster. From the off ice rumours to the barber jerseys, Gillett wants to get every penny he can get from this team, and making the first round will bring in another 15 Million dollars. Gainey even said it the goal was to make playoffs, how long are we going to tolerate this crap? We want the cup, and We are the best fans, and all we get is making the playoffs.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/Sport...366/story.html
You are right!

Missing the playoffs is the way to go!

Brilliant thinkin, Ajax!

Flussshhhhhhh down the bowl for you....

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04-13-2009, 05:12 PM
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this article was really bad

its like writing an article about the moon and just talking about its darkside

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04-13-2009, 05:28 PM
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Enough said, this centennial season has been a disaster. From the off ice rumours to the barber jerseys, Gillett wants to get every penny he can get from this team, and making the first round will bring in another 15 Million dollars. Gainey even said it the goal was to make playoffs, how long are we going to tolerate this crap? We want the cup, and We are the best fans, and all we get is making the playoffs.

http://www.montrealgazette.com/Sport...366/story.html
At the beginning of the season, before it started, did you think we were going to limp into the POs as an 8th seed?
Our season was plagued with injuries, that didn't help some players find their rhythm. Like in every team, every year, some players go through slumps and disappoint. Add the 2 together with Centennial/Media/Coach firing distractions, and it's a miracle we even made the POs this year.

We have a very good team. But almost everything that could go wrong this year actually went wrong. So be happy, and hope we can get hot in POs.

As for Gillett wanting to make money, what can I say..What a bad business man for thinking that way!..Heartless coward!

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04-13-2009, 05:34 PM
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He invested in the team, proof is look at all the centennial events.

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04-13-2009, 05:39 PM
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Damn french media!

...oh, wait

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04-13-2009, 05:39 PM
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although this is very off-topic and has nothing to do with Jack Todd or the argument of whether or not George Gilette cares about the team asides from making money from it, i felt i should let you guys know the kind of person he is. At the opening game of the season in Buffalo Mr. Gillette approached my girlfriend and I in the middle of hallway in HSBC arena to introduce himself and thank us for our support of the team (as he saw we both had habs jerseys on). For a man in his position i think it says alot of him as a person to make a gesture like this to a random fan. I also think going to Buffalo of all cities (not exactly the nicest city out there) to watch the team play shows he does have an interest in this team and enjoys the sport of hockey.

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04-13-2009, 05:45 PM
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There are exceptions to this rule - Mike Illitch in Detroit is a great example. Illitch demands from upper team management that his team be a true Cup competitor - and on an annual basis - Illitch wants results - he doesn't accept excuses.
But Ilitch waited over 10 years for Stanley Cup, and Detroit didn't become pennerial contender before Bowman's arrival. And he didn't showed Jim Develano the door after let's say Borshchevski goal in 1993. Patience pays off.

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04-13-2009, 06:01 PM
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Our season was plagued with injuries, that didn't help some players find their rhythm.

We have a very good team. As for Gillett wanting to make money, what can I say..What a bad business man for thinking that way!..Heartless coward!
If you see the Habs as.....a very good team - could you share with me whatever you've been smokin' (or drinkin')?

The reality is - the Habs are a mediocre team - and they ended the '08 - '09 season in an appropriate position - 8th place. Looking at the Habs track record over the last 6+ years I can only conclude that the '07 - '08 seaon was an anomoly - an exception to the rule.

Every team - without exception, has their fair share of injuries!

The truely good teams have enough depth on their roster to play above injuries and be competative.

In the (nearly) 6 seasons that Gainey has been GM the Habs have won exactly one playoff round - and the immediate future does not look encouraging.

Having said that I hope the Habs win the Cup - but - I have to agree with Jack Todd
- can't see a Cup in Montreal in the forseeable future!


GO HABS GO


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04-13-2009, 06:12 PM
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He's right that Gillet has been great at marketing and created a quite successful machine at making money since he took over the Habs. But it's not like they don't want the team to be successful.

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04-13-2009, 06:16 PM
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But Ilitch waited over 10 years for Stanley Cup, and Detroit didn't become pennerial contender before Bowman's arrival. And he didn't showed Jim Develano the door after let's say Borshchevski goal in 1993. Patience pays off.
Dude........the Habs haven't won the Cup in (what is about to be) 16 years (I realize Gillette has not owned the team of that enrtire period).

But, considering that Gillette purchased the Canadiens on January 2, 2000 - he has now owned the Habs for 9+ years - this team doesn't appear to be on the verge of being a Cup competitor - hell, they barely made the playoffs this year!

What blows me away is that in 9+ seasons I don't see enough improvement with this team to feel any encouragement about the future.

And, things may get a lot worse before they get better - Consider that (in terms of age) Kovalev, Lang and Koivu are near the end of their respective careers - who do the Habs have to take their places when they do retire?

Anyway, if media reports are accurate - Gillette will no longer be owner for vey long!

GO HABS GO!

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04-13-2009, 07:18 PM
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The French Media?

Jack Todd is an Anglophone media journalist.
My apologies. I just thought with crap like this it would probably be from our buddies in the French media, not that all of them are bad but...Anyway my bad guys.

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04-13-2009, 08:15 PM
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Shame on an owner for wanting to make money, how dare he. I mean, its so easy to assemble a cup contending team, Jack Todd is a brilliant man and journalist who should consider putting his name for GM of this team.

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People, sports teams are just that a business. People own them to make money. Regardless, I rather a Gillette run this team than a cheap ass group of owners like Molson did.

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04-14-2009, 04:29 AM
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Perhaps a back handed compliment to Gillett for running such a profitable operation, if Todd is guilty of anything here it's for his need to state the obvious.

The hockey club in Montreal is profitable, Gillett is making money. Blah Blah Blah. This isn't news.

As for the negative overeaction to Todd's words, it should not be heresy to look back on an owner's time and recap it the way the record clearly reads - he came, he bought, he sold, he took a lot of money with him.

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