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04-18-2009, 09:55 PM
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Thank you Bob for making Montreal the softest team in the league. Thank you Bob for the organization being in basically the same spot it was when you took over.
Oh come on! The same place as when he took over?

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I have a feeling this thread is gonna have somewhat of a turn around.

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04-18-2009, 09:56 PM
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does anyone even remember this team before gainey (savard to a certain extent)...seriously guys be a little more smart and use your noodles...

i am defending him because he built a team that can win and has helped restock our prospect pool (timmins mainly) but i like his pickups and his signings of most big players that are internally developed at good prices...one disappointing season and the roughest market causes a team to lynch everything around it...i wish the expos were still here and the alouetttes were larger...
yes they were a team on the bubble.

and yes currently they are a borderline playoff team.

Bob had a better starting point for prospects and team than Andre Savard and hasn't done much with it. Frankly, Andre Markov is the team and he was here prior to Bob taking over.

The minimal success BG has had goes directly to his predecessor.

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Oh come on! The same place as when he took over?
honestly whats so good about this team.

this team has been horrible most of the year. Its getting killed in the playoffs and half the team is UFA's coming.

what makes this team and Bob Gainey's work here anything to write home about.


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04-18-2009, 10:03 PM
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does anyone even remember this team before gainey (savard to a certain extent)...seriously guys be a little more smart and use your noodles...

i am defending him because he built a team that can win and has helped restock our prospect pool (timmins mainly) but i like his pickups and his signings of most big players that are internally developed at good prices...one disappointing season and the roughest market causes a team to lynch everything around it...i wish the expos were still here and the alouetttes were larger...


Stop dreaming!!

There's no prospect that's a difference maker.

Quantity and QUALITY are two different things.

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04-18-2009, 10:04 PM
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How long is a 5 year plan?

Thats what were told 8 years ago when were tired of loosing!

Gainey said he loved his team?

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04-18-2009, 10:07 PM
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Keep dreaming, Gainey will stay the GM of this team for a couple of other years. He did a tremendous job building a decent team with the help of only one top pick (Price). The Pens needed 4 top picks to start competing, we needed one ... that's because of Gainey's patience and knowledge of how to build a hockey team out of nothing.
Tell me the name of 1 player that Gainey acquired and who did a major difference on the team.

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04-18-2009, 10:28 PM
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Hi there, I don't know if Gainey returns next year, but I have a question for you all, smart *****, who seem to know everything.

Who steps in after Gainey? Who can do a better job than him?
Julien Brisebois?
Lol?

I'd rather keep Gainey than go back to Houle era.
Could Gainey have predicted that Plekanec, 69 points, would have 30 less? That Andrei (if I'm right) would have 41 points? That Higgins would score only 12 goals?
This team was good on paper. You can't blame him for that. The only thing you can whine about is him not moving at the deadline. Then again, I feel that his move is coming at the upcoming draft. If he doesn't do anything there, now you'll have the right to complain.

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I would have preferred to miss the playoffs than get the beating we're getting from the Ruins and gotten a higher draft pick

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04-18-2009, 11:44 PM
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Stop dreaming!!

There's no prospect that's a difference maker.

Quantity and QUALITY are two different things.
there's potentially a few difference makers.

maxwell is going to be a very good 2nd line center. emelin if he comes will be good...subban could be something special. macdonagh too

and pacioretty has all the tools

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04-18-2009, 11:47 PM
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Tell me the name of 1 player that Gainey acquired and who did a major difference on the team.
Kovalev

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honestly whats so good about this team.

this team has been horrible most of the year. Its getting killed in the playoffs and half the team is UFA's coming.

what makes this team and Bob Gainey's work here anything to write home about.
injuries all year and have key injuries now. lang and markov. Imagine lang as the second line center and having markov on d that improves the team a lot. i just wished we had to pick more canadians along the way

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Tell me the name of 1 player that Gainey acquired and who did a major difference on the team.
tanguay


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04-18-2009, 11:50 PM
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is the team doing better now than it did during Houle's years?

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04-18-2009, 11:51 PM
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Tell me the name of 1 player that Gainey acquired and who did a major difference on the team.
kovalev, tanguay, schnieder, hamrlik did have a MAJOR impact when he first joined us.


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is the team doing better now than it did during Houle's years?
Yes.

And we have better players and better prospects.

This team has no confidence, it's not lack of skills.

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injuries all year and have key injuries now. lang and markov. Imagine lang as the second line center and having markov on d that improves the team a lot. i just wished we had to pick more canadians along the way
What scares me the most is that Lang was trashed immediately from the time Bob got him, oh how things have changed since he went down.

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04-19-2009, 12:02 AM
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Thank him for what,good prospects?Isen't timmins job?

Thank him for what,put togheter the softest team in the Nhl

Thank him for what?Breezer return,Ribiero and theodore trades,Julien and carbo firing,Signing end of carreer overpaid vets?Improvisation managing?Even Houle could not do worst...

So if we follow your logic souvenir,we have to wait till the draft because you "feel"he will make a move?And we should keep him because we don't have anyone better in our organisation to replace him?

My GF is fat and ugly,but i don't know any girl better than her so i should find her pretty and keep her at all cost..come on

Call me and all the poster smart ass all you want,i don't have to wait till draft day to face the obvious,and probably gainey will be deep sleeping again,as usual.

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04-19-2009, 12:03 AM
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is the team doing better now than it did during Houle's years?
Yes, they now actually make it into the playoffs. So far at least, Gainey has not traded away any future Hall of Fame players.

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04-19-2009, 12:09 AM
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Laraque also looked good on paper..

I don't think it's Gainey to blame.. look at the line up on paper:

October:
AK46 - Plek - Kovalev
Higs - Koivu - Tangs
Lats - Lang - SK74
Kosto - Laps - Laraque
Markov - Komo
Hammer - OB
Bouillon - Gorges
Price
Halak

April (if no injury):
Tangs - Koivu - Kovy
AK46 - Lang - SK74
Higs - PLek - Dags
Lats - Laps - Laraque
Markov - Komo
Hammer - Schneids
Bouillon - Gorges
Price
Halak

Don't tell me you don't think on paper we're top 3?

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04-19-2009, 12:10 AM
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Yes.

And we have better players and better prospects.

This team has no confidence, it's not lack of skills.
flashback a few years ago and how people talk of Subban, Pacioretty etc is how they talked about Komisarek, Higgins and Kostitsyn.

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04-19-2009, 01:50 AM
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For the record....

I don't think Gainey is consistently 100% flawless... far from it... but then who is?

Tough loss tonight, though... but you can be sure that the

Flames
Flyers
Caps
Blues
Blue Jackets

all feel the same way

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Yes, they now actually make it into the playoffs. So far at least, Gainey has not traded away any future Hall of Fame players.
anyone knows how many playoffs rounds the team did during Houle's years compared to Gainey's years?

and it's not like there's any hall of famer to trade on this team, although he gave away Ribeiro who's a top 20 guy now in the league.

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anyone knows how many playoffs rounds the team did during Houle's years compared to Gainey's years?

and it's not like there's any hall of famer to trade on this team, although he gave away Ribeiro who's a top 20 guy now in the league.
I don't agree that Ribeiro is top 20 in the league, he is good and I hated that trade too, but not top 20 IMHO.

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For the record....

I don't think Gainey is consistently 100% flawless... far from it... but then who is?

Tough loss tonight, though... but you can be sure that the

Flames lost by 1 goal twice, including OT.
Flyers Can score.
Caps Lost by one goal each game and outplayed their opponents.
Blues Lost by one goal in both games.
Blue Jackets Feels the same as the Canadiens. Afterall, they have only one more minus than them (Minus 7 in the series, Montreal is minus 6)

all feel the same way
I can never understand how such a historic and proud franchise could settle for these standards? Not being a troll, I just have always grown up with Montreal and their fans demanding so much more than this.

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I can never understand how such a historic and proud franchise could settle for these standards? Not being a troll, I just have always grown up with Montreal and their fans demanding so much more than this.
It seems like some people are just so thrilled that the Habs can manage to get their skates on the right feet so after that everything else is just bonus. Embarrassing to thank someone for a first round exit after an abysmal season and a mediocre 5 years.

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I can never understand how such a historic and proud franchise could settle for these standards? Not being a troll, I just have always grown up with Montreal and their fans demanding so much more than this.
Congratulations on listing excuses for the other team losses

The fact is that 29 clubs are going to have excuses to varying degrees at the end of all this.

I am as demanding as any fan... but realistic about the breaks... and happy we all get to see what the team is made of in the real season, even if its ugly.

I definitely wish the slumping players could break out and dig deeper. Its all in their hands now.

Anyway. Before this series started, I thought these 4 things

1. Price will have to be at his very best
2. Pleks, Laps, Lats, AKost will have to score
3. The series will have to be prolonged to give Markov time
4. I will not write the Habs off unless they get down 0 3

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