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04-20-2009, 01:08 PM
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Carter... Just ackward as a skater. It looks like a knee injury waiting to happen.

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04-20-2009, 01:32 PM
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KB, a few names for you for us at 13:

Carter ashton... Big kid, too high at 13?

Chris Kreider?

Carl klingberg?
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v1.0 of the Draft Preview is up if you feel like taking a peek at some early work

Disclaimer: This is an early look to get the game started!

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04-20-2009, 02:55 PM
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Great read, but Matt Ellis is already a Sabre

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04-20-2009, 03:02 PM
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Great read, but Matt Ellis is already a Sabre
He's hardly an offensive wizard.

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04-20-2009, 03:22 PM
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Great work KB.

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04-20-2009, 03:36 PM
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Great read, but Matt Ellis is already a Sabre
That damn glue is pretty potent.

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04-20-2009, 04:52 PM
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Thank you! Thank you! Thank you!

I have a long and crappy commute to and from work. I usually have my laptop to mess with but the battery only lasts about 20 minutes right now. Your Draft Preview is just the thing I needed. I love your work. You made my day. Now, if only I could go home and find that my daughter's fever has gone away.

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04-20-2009, 05:11 PM
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Interesting interview with Kevin Devine just posted on Sabres.com

Some points:

1. Sabres have six full time and two part time amateur scouts (not counting Devine) who are responsible for the following:

a. 1 for QMJHL
b. 1 for OHL
c. 2 for WHL (extra scout needed because it is such a large geographic region)
d. 1 for Europe (who knew the WHL was larger geographically than Europe)
e. 1 for USHL
f. part time for North East area
g. part time for BC Junior.

2. Video supplements these real life scouts. Devine said most scouts are only able to watch 150 games first hand - this lets them watch another 150 on video.

3. This year's draft isn't as strong at the top half of the draft as it was last years. He thought the drop off last year was with Myers at 12. This year he thinks it is around 9 or 10.

Based on item number three, it would appear they may want to try moving out of that spot come draft day.

http://sabres.nhl.com/index.html

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04-20-2009, 05:17 PM
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For comparisons, the Rangers only list 8 amateur scouts as well:

http://rangers.nhl.com/team/app/?ser...LPage&id=14689

Looks like the Maple Leafs have 7, but also list 5 "European Scouts"

http://rangers.nhl.com/team/app/?ser...LPage&id=14689

The mighty Red Wings similarly have only a handful of amateur scouts, but also have several European scouts.

It appears for all the talk of Buffalo's lack of scouting they seem to be well-represented, if not more so through supplemental video, than other NHL teams in terms of North American amateurs. The problem appears that they are sorely lacking on the European scene leaving everything in the hands of Bo Berglund. Might be the reason they are concentrating in recent drafts on North American prospects.


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04-20-2009, 05:27 PM
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Interesting interview with Kevin Devine just posted on Sabres.com

Some points:

1. Sabres have six full time and two part time amateur scouts (not counting Devine) who are responsible for the following:

a. 1 for QMJHL
b. 1 for OHL
c. 2 for WHL (extra scout needed because it is such a large geographic region)
d. 1 for Europe (who knew the WHL was larger geographically than Europe)
e. 1 for USHL
f. part time for North East area
g. part time for BC Junior.

2. Video supplements these real life scouts. Devine said most scouts are only able to watch 150 games first hand - this lets them watch another 150 on video.

3. This year's draft isn't as strong at the top half of the draft as it was last years. He thought the drop off last year was with Myers at 12. This year he thinks it is around 9 or 10.

Based on item number three, it would appear they may want to try moving out of that spot come draft day.

http://sabres.nhl.com/index.html
Nonsense. We all know they fired their scouts.

Rene Robert even said it so it must be true.

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04-20-2009, 05:40 PM
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For comparisons, the Rangers only list 8 amateur scouts as well:

http://rangers.nhl.com/team/app/?ser...LPage&id=14689

Looks like the Maple Leafs have 7, but also list 5 "European Scouts"

http://rangers.nhl.com/team/app/?ser...LPage&id=14689

The mighty Red Wings similarly have only a handful of amateur scouts, but also have several European scouts.

It appears for all the talk of Buffalo's lack of scouting they seem to be well-represented, if not more so through supplemental video, than other NHL teams in terms of North American amateurs. The problem appears that they are sorely lacking on the European scene leaving everything in the hands of Bo Berglund. Might be the reason they are concentrating in recent drafts on North American prospects.
Khmylev still works for the Sabres in Europe.

As for the Wings... they have Nill and Yzerman as extra eyes for Holland. Similarly Lou has Conte -- additional voices and known hockey minds to bring to bear on what the scouts are doing and saying. The Sabres could use a new voice (or two) in their front office.

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04-23-2009, 01:28 PM
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http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_12204216

RLR is giving Avs fans hope by dropping Tavares to #3 behind Hedman and Duchene.

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RLR is giving Avs fans hope by dropping Tavares to #3 behind Hedman and Duchene.
RLR is ridiculous.

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04-23-2009, 01:34 PM
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RLR is ridiculous.
Eh. Kyle likes to stir the pot. Duchense looks like a pretty good prize at #3 regardless.

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04-23-2009, 01:35 PM
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RLR is ridiculous.
I wouldn't exactly call them ridiculous but I can't see Tavares falling all the way to number 3 as there isn't a Mike Milbury or Garth Snow drafting in one of the top 2 spots.

Hedman could very easily go number 1 but I don't quite see Duchense jumping over Tavares though I like his overall game more.

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04-23-2009, 01:41 PM
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Eh. Kyle likes to stir the pot. Duchense looks like a pretty good prize at #3 regardless.
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I wouldn't exactly call them ridiculous but I can't see Tavares falling all the way to number 3 as there isn't a Mike Milbury or Garth Snow drafting in one of the top 2 spots.

Hedman could very easily go number 1 but I don't quite see Duchense jumping over Tavares though I like his overall game more.
I should clarify: RLR is ridiculous because Woodlief does the same thing every year with their final draft rankings.

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I should clarify: RLR is ridiculous because Woodlief does the same thing every year with their final draft rankings.
He has to do something to get people to pay attention.

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04-23-2009, 01:53 PM
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I should clarify: RLR is ridiculous because Woodlief does the same thing every year with their final draft rankings.
I'm betting that Tavares is at least back up to #2 in the final RLR ratings for the draft.

They have played around with stuff like this a month or two before the draft and then they tend to go back to the chalk for the final ratings.

It's the usual dramatics.....

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04-23-2009, 01:57 PM
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He has to do something to get people to pay attention.
I note the bolded italics and agree.

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[QUOTE=Old Navy Goat;19240700]I wouldn't exactly call them ridiculous but I can't see Tavares falling all the way to number 3 as there isn't a Mike Milbury or Garth Snow drafting in one of the top 2 spots.QUOTE]

? The Islanders / Garth Snow have the first pick in the draft?

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I wouldn't exactly call them ridiculous but I can't see Tavares falling all the way to number 3 as there isn't a Mike Milbury or Garth Snow drafting in one of the top 2 spots.QUOTE]

? The Islanders / Garth Snow have the first pick in the draft?
Wang is doing the drafting, he's personally scouting Tavares and meeting with him after playoff games...Garth is taking a back seat.

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d. 1 for Europe (who knew the WHL was larger geographically than Europe)
1? I guess thats why we don't find hidden talent late on if they only have a scout to watch the top guys. The reason the wings are so great is they spend time watching low level guys and finding the hidden talent in the late rounds.

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One thing I do like about RLR is the draft sleepers. I think Sekera made the list as the top sleeper pick one year.

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MY WISH LIST 1. Evander Kane 2. Brayden Schenn AT 11 . Zack Kassian

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