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04-24-2009, 08:55 AM
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Sign Kessel or Krejci through RFA

Do you think that the habs( or other teams) can do an offer sheet through RFA to one of the 2 players?
The salary Cap likely to be 56 millions
so they have 14 players signed next year 46.733 millions
so it let 10 millions to sign 3 players (to be 20)

Defence
5 signed
1 RFA (Hunwick 23 years)
2 UFA ( Hnidy and Montador)

Foward
10 Signed
3 RFA (Bytz, Kreijci , Kessel)
3 UFA (Rechhi, Yelle, Axelsson)

Goalie
2 Signed (Rask .850 + 2.350bonus)
1 UFA (Fernandez)

If Gainey offers 5.1 millions to Kessel (it'll costs us a 1st,2nd,3rd)
they have to sign him or let him go.

Then Kreijci can be offered for less.

2008 (from NHLSCAP)

_,863,156 or less ......... none
_,863,157 - 1,307,811 ..... 3rd round pick
1,307,812 - 2,615,623 ..... 2nd round pick
2,615,624 - 3,923,434 ..... 1st and 3rd etc.
3,923,435 - 5,231,246 ..... 1st, 2nd and 3rd
5,231,247 - 6,539,061 ..... 1st x2, 2nd & 3rd
6,539,062 or more ......... 1st x4

I know that it may not happen, (can be signed before) but some teams are limited through

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04-24-2009, 08:57 AM
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Do you think that the habs( or other teams) can do an offer sheet through RFA to one of the 2 players?
The salary Cap likely to be 56 millions
so they have 14 players signed next year 46.733 millions
so it let 10 millions to sign 3 players (to be 20)

Defence
5 signed
1 RFA (Hunwick 23 years)
2 UFA ( Hnidy and Montador)

Foward
10 Signed
3 RFA (Bytz, Kreijci , Kessel)
3 UFA (Rechhi, Yelle, Axelsson)

Goalie
2 Signed (Rask .850 + 2.350bonus)
1 UFA (Fernandez)

If Gainey offers 5.1 millions to Kessel (it'll costs us a 1st,2nd,3rd)
they have to sign him or let him go.

Then Kreijci can be offered for less.

2008 (from NHLSCAP)

_,863,156 or less ......... none
_,863,157 - 1,307,811 ..... 3rd round pick
1,307,812 - 2,615,623 ..... 2nd round pick
2,615,624 - 3,923,434 ..... 1st and 3rd etc.
3,923,435 - 5,231,246 ..... 1st, 2nd and 3rd
5,231,247 - 6,539,061 ..... 1st x2, 2nd & 3rd
6,539,062 or more ......... 1st x4

I know that it may not happen, (can be signed before) but some teams are limited through
I would rather put in a tender for Kreijci to be honest.

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04-24-2009, 08:58 AM
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Do you think that the habs( or other teams) can do an offer sheet through RFA to one of the 2 players?
The salary Cap likely to be 56 millions
so they have 14 players signed next year 46.733 millions
so it let 10 millions to sign 3 players (to be 20)

Defence
5 signed
1 RFA (Hunwick 23 years)
2 UFA ( Hnidy and Montador)

Foward
10 Signed
3 RFA (Bytz, Kreijci , Kessel)
3 UFA (Rechhi, Yelle, Axelsson)

Goalie
2 Signed (Rask .850 + 2.350bonus)
1 UFA (Fernandez)

If Gainey offers 5.1 millions to Kessel (it'll costs us a 1st,2nd,3rd)
they have to sign him or let him go.

Then Kreijci can be offered for less.

2008 (from NHLSCAP)

_,863,156 or less ......... none
_,863,157 - 1,307,811 ..... 3rd round pick
1,307,812 - 2,615,623 ..... 2nd round pick
2,615,624 - 3,923,434 ..... 1st and 3rd etc.
3,923,435 - 5,231,246 ..... 1st, 2nd and 3rd
5,231,247 - 6,539,061 ..... 1st x2, 2nd & 3rd
6,539,062 or more ......... 1st x4

I know that it may not happen, (can be signed before) but some teams are limited through
We'd need our 3rd back, but I'd give Kessel 5M for 6 years.

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04-24-2009, 08:59 AM
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Would you be willing to give those guys 6 million per year? Then a load of compensation picks to go along with it..

I wouldn't. They are to small and to me Krejci is like last years Plekanec.

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Krejci at 5.23mil would solve a whole bunch of problems for the Habs. Right handed scoring center, who can play against tough opposition, who is only turning 23 this month. I'd gladly give up the picks. The rationale being, what are the odds of getting a player that good, that fills the Habs' needs so perfectly with one of those picks?

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...to me Krejci is like last years Plekanec.
When Plekanec was 23 years old, he scored 29 points in 67 games. Krejci is way ahead of Plekanec's curve.

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The Bruins can keep Kessel, I'd take Krejci.

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Kessel is the only one of the two with the talent to to justify an offer sheet.

But I doubt we do that.

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Kessel is lightning in a bottle and is the real deal - Krejci will come back down to earth next year imo.

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When Plekanec was 23 years old, he scored 29 points in 67 games. Krejci is way ahead of Plekanec's curve.
My point is, he is not a PROVEN player because of 1 solid year. Just like Plekanec, Price, Andrei Kostitsyn etc. were not proven players because of their 1 good year.

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Why would anyone pick Krejci over Kessel? Kessel is a pure scorer, which is what we need the most.

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Pull a Kevin Lowe offer a stupid contract for a player forcing the hand of the other team
Kessel for 6 million for 5 years
See what Boston has too say

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Why would anyone pick Krejci over Kessel? Kessel is a pure scorer, which is what we need the most.
Center vs winger. Also, a playmaker like Krejci could give goal scorers D'Agostini, AKost and Latendresse a chance to thrive.

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Center vs winger. Also, a playmaker like Krejci could give goal scorers D'Agostini, AKost and Latendresse a chance to thrive.
While I agree that Krejci would be a better fit, Kessel will become a top sniper and a perennial top scorer.

He was highly touted talent ever since he's been 16.

Krejci looks like a great player, but I'd much rather have the rare talent of Kessel. He's going to be a superstar.

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Center vs winger. Also, a playmaker like Krejci could give goal scorers D'Agostini, AKost and Latendresse a chance to thrive.
Kessel is a natural center as well, isn't he?

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if you cant beat the bruins, try to sign them?

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if you cant beat the bruins, try to sign them?
Well, we can sure spank the Kings, so your team is in no danger of an offer sheet from us.

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if you cant beat the bruins, try to sign them?
not at all
im just seeing the possibilities for the rfa signing and i watched the bruins situation

thats what i m talking about

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I have a feeling Chia will try and trade Sturm for picks and unload his 3 mil from the books to try and open up room to sign Krecji and Kessel long term. I don't think either will break the 5 mil salary mark. And if any team wants to give us a bunch of draft picks for one of them and handcuff themselves cap wise we would be more than happy to take them off your hands.

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I would rather put in a tender for Kreijci to be honest.
As for a tender for Krecji, I think our system is chalk full of them with Rask, Regan, we signed a tender (Hutchenson) last draft, and signed the college goalie from Bemidji three days ago.

I'll be honest I'm scared to see what you guys can do this off season though, lost of free agents to be () (Sedin twins come to mind). Good luck, and please don't depleat our team too much !

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I'd take Kessel and run in tears of laughter.

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Why would anyone pick Krejci over Kessel? Kessel is a pure scorer, which is what we need the most.
We need defense more than scoring... I would search the free agent lists for help there.

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Thanks guys I needed a good laugh today

Anyway I don't have any fear in Montreal signing Krejci or Kessel to offer sheets. First Montreal has a hard time signing any free agents to start with and offer sheets are like free agents they have a choice of which ones to accept and not accept, do you think these guys want to play in Montreal?

Chiarelli is smart enough to do what he did with Wideman last year if he can’t sign Kessel or Krejci before July 1st and that’s take the players to arbitration. Players going to arbitration are not allowed to sign offer sheets and the team gets an extra 20 something days to sign these players before arbitration even happens. Last year we signed Wideman before arbitration so it was a nice strategy.

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As for a tender for Krecji, I think our system is chalk full of them with Rask, Regan, we signed a tender (Hutchenson) last draft, and signed the college goalie from Bemidji three days ago.

Baaahahah he didn't mean trade a goaltender for him, he meant tender an offer. As in, throw an offer sheet his way..

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I'd take Kessel and run in tears of laughter.
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