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05-14-2009, 07:00 PM
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Yes, like the lack of a legit third-line center that can win us some draws and play good defense...and the complete inability to bid on anything but an average starting goaltender (if that).

That's where things are getting adjusted...
Homer has his work cut out for him... he has made it where he has little room to work and few options, however he is not alone in the Cap trouble department.

In any case, with the NMC/NTCs in place and signed contracts, the task is difficult, but the base is set... What he does to fill in the needs -- like the ones you pointed out -- will be interesting... A bonus driven contract for Knuble and a couple creative deals that would move one of the offensive guns for a couple skilled role players would go a long way.

IMO, in this Cap Age having a good talented young core and lower priced veteran role players is the way to go -- that and keeping the cupboard stockpiled with talent coming up each year -- Homer has the core locked up... getting the right mix to fill the roles... that may be Homer's downfall. But the window should stay open for a few years to come... Like it or not, this really the third year of the rebuilding coming up, no matter what they like to call it. With the rebuilding is the maturation and adjustments to enhance the core in place.


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Yes, like the lack of a legit third-line center that can win us some draws and play good defense...and the complete inability to bid on anything but an average starting goaltender (if that).

That's where things are getting adjusted...
The team that's on its way to winning back to back Stanley Cups has an "average goaltender", if you ice a strong team and have a good coach, goaltending shouldn't be as big a problem.

I'd rather have our team and Biron than have the NYI and Luongo.

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If anything, Osgood is below average.

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The team that's on its way to winning back to back Stanley Cups has an "average goaltender", if you ice a strong team and have a good coach, goaltending shouldn't be as big a problem.
They're "on their way?" They're in a Game 7 tonight...they may be finding tee times tomorrow.

Additionally, get back to me when we have that defensive corps in front of him. You are, after all, the one that has argued against going after someone like Jay-Bo because of the cost...That's where the Red Wings have applied their savings.

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I'd rather have our team and Biron than have the NYI and Luongo.
Of course, that's another paper tiger argument. As that isn't really the choice.

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If anything, Osgood is below average.
It's a damn shame that apparently the entire Flyers fanbase buys into the "we need to pay a goaltender 6 mill per year to have any chance at winning anything" philosophy.

Puck Prospectus had Biron as our MVP this season, so there you go, certainly we got a lot better production from the goaltending spot than most other teams.

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They're "on their way?" They're in a Game 7 tonight...they may be finding tee times tomorrow.

Additionally, get back to me when we have that defensive corps in front of him. You are, after all, the one that has argued against going after someone like Jay-Bo because of the cost...That's where the Red Wings have applied their savings.
I'd be moderately shocked if the Wings don't win tonight and that being said, Osgood hasn't really been the problem for them this year in the playoffs.

And again, this age-old defense argument, which teams in the East have unequivocally better D corps then we do? The Pens were matching up Gill-Scuderi against Ovechkin and they won that series. FLA is the only team that has unequivocally better D and (surprise) they missed the playoffs. Do we need some more physicality? Probably, but we had the most talented top-4 in the playoffs in the East.

Pens are playing Scuderi 21 minutes, Gill 20 minutes, Eaton 18.5 minutes. And they're winning games. And individually, those players are a lot crappier than the ones we got.

People enjoy screaming about the defense because the real problem (coaching) isn't solvable under Holmgren.

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I'd be moderately shocked if the Wings don't win tonight and that being said, Osgood hasn't really been the problem for them this year in the playoffs.

And again, this age-old defense argument, which teams in the East have unequivocally better D corps then we do? The Pens were matching up Gill-Scuderi against Ovechkin and they won that series. FLA is the only team that has unequivocally better D and (surprise) they missed the playoffs. Do we need some more physicality? Probably, but we had the most talented top-4 in the playoffs in the East.

Pens are playing Scuderi 21 minutes, Gill 20 minutes, Eaton 18.5 minutes. And they're winning games. And individually, those players are a lot crappier than the ones we got.

People enjoy screaming about the defense because the real problem (coaching) isn't solvable under Holmgren.
Dude...you just made the argument that the Red Wings are winning with "average goaltending." It is abundantly clear that they are aware of that and they've done something to compensate for it.

MAF made that Pens D look a hell of a lot better against us than it actually is, no?

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Dude...you just made the argument that the Red Wings are winning with "average goaltending." It is abundantly clear that they are aware of that and they've done something to compensate for it.
And so have we, the main difference is that A) we don't have Lidstrom and B) our guys are younger, not as accomplished as of yet. But clearly Holmgren has seen the problem and is trying to take steps to remedy it, some of them more questionable than others.

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MAF made that Pens D look a hell of a lot better against us than it actually is, no?
We can cry about this until the cows come home, but the basic fact is that we pulled a Montreal. Fleury was in the zone and stopping everything he saw. But we weren't winning battles in front of the net, we weren't first to rebounds, we didn't spend much forecheck time in their zone.

We got outworked by a D corps inferior to our own. Slice it how you want, but the difference in that series is that our forwards really didn't step up to the plate at either end of the ice.

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