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05-15-2009, 12:17 PM
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What sort of package would it take to trade up to #1 and snag Tavares? Semin, two firsts, and a prospect like Oskala. Short of Carlson and Alzner there's almost no one who is untradable as far as our kids are concerned. Is this remotely possible?

Frankly I think we need two centers to match up with Maklin and Crosby - obviously not at their level, but legit #1 centers in their own right. We have one... we need one more.

WOuld anyone trade Green and Semin for the #1/Tavares? Am I high?

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Not a Tavares fan, personally.

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I say trade up and draft Kassian or find a way to get De Haan

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05-15-2009, 12:39 PM
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Duchene will be the best forward in this draft. Tavares is Dany Heatley with no drive.

Not a fan of Kassian either. Don't get me wrong, I love the snarl, but Milan Lucic, he is not. Can't skate, and no hockey sense. I'd draft him later, but not first round.

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I've found a player that RandyHolt might like :

Seth Helgesion (58th in THN), 6'3 220

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"He plays the game like a warrior," another scout said. "He has an edge and some touch with the puck. He has size and grit. He's a guy who's going to be difficult to play against at whatever level he plays."

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Duchene will be the best forward in this draft. Tavares is Dany Heatley with no drive.

Not a fan of Kassian either. Don't get me wrong, I love the snarl, but Milan Lucic, he is not. Can't skate, and no hockey sense. I'd draft him later, but not first round.
I personally think Duchene is overrated. I'd take Schenn and Kane over Duchene and maybe Tavares. Schenn and Kane can put the puck in the net, and they play with an edge.

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05-15-2009, 04:11 PM
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I've found a player that RandyHold might like :

Seth Helgesion (58th in THN), 6'3 220
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"He plays the game like a warrior," another scout said. "He has an edge and some touch with the puck. He has size and grit. He's a guy who's going to be difficult to play against at whatever level he plays."

This I want /\ /\ /\


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Schenn is the real deal, i'll tell you that much.

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Schenn is the real deal, i'll tell you that much.
I think so too. I never got why he was ranked 6th. He's a leader, he's physical, has a brother in the NHL. He's also got a lot of skill, he put up 88 points as one of the youngest draft eligible players, passes the puck great, drives the net and can score.

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I personally think Duchene is overrated. I'd take Schenn and Kane over Duchene and maybe Tavares. Schenn and Kane can put the puck in the net, and they play with an edge.
Duchene's possibly the best skater in the draft, a great two-way player, and put up 31 goals and 79 points as a 2nd line center. He's a stud. Very similar to Mike Modano.

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Duchene's possibly the best skater in the draft, a great two-way player, and put up 31 goals and 79 points as a 2nd line center. He's a stud. Very similar to Mike Modano.
Maybe it's just be, but I like the way Schenn combines toughness and playmaking, and how Kane has a nose for the net and isn't afraid to get dirty.

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I would give my right nut for Hedman.

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Maybe it's just be, but I like the way Schenn combines toughness and playmaking, and how Kane has a nose for the net and isn't afraid to get dirty.
Not trying to put down those two, as I'm a fan as well. Duchene's just a complete stud in my eyes. His scouting report reads like Mike Modano, and I've seen his leadership abilities compared with Sakic's, IIRC.

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I'd be thrilled if the draft stayed true to those rankings, and the Caps picked Kreider.

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As far as the caps #1 draft pick there are a couple of prospects rated a little higher than they would pick that are intriguing if they fell.

Jacob Josefson (SWE) - Center, 6'0, 187
Zack Kassian (Can) - RW, 6'3, 205, OHL
Peter Holland (Can) - Center, 6'2, 190, OHL
Jeremy Morin (USA) - Center, 6'0, 185, going to OHL next season

Others that seem to be more likely in the wheel house.

Drew Shore (USA) - Center, 6'2, 199
Chris Kreider (USA) - LW, 6'2, 201
Landon Ferraro (Can) - RW, 6'0, 170, WHL
Jordan Caron (Can) - Center, 6'2, 196, QMJHL, seems to have some injury concerns over the past couple of years.

There three others I find really intriguing...

Carl Klingberg (SWE) - LW, 6'3, 205, plays a very physical game and works hard apparently.
Ryan O'Reilly (Can) - Center, 6'0, 205, OHL, super character..loves hockey.
Joonas Nattinen (FIN) - Center, 6'2, 176, good faceoff guy

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05-22-2009, 12:40 PM
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Seth Helgesion (58th in THN), 6'3 220
6'5"

I am all in. We need some big stay at homers. Outside of Ovi and his ferocious hits, this team desperately needs some guys that are a pain in the ass physically to play against. I hope I am not the only one that thinks so. All our D are so tall and lanky, they rarely hit yet seem oft injured. We got enough movers already.

I hope that is him in the white

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05-22-2009, 03:26 PM
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The Caps should trade this pick. I am normally not a fan of moving picks, but if you can use this to dump some salary (trade a 1st and Nylander to a bad team with Caps space willing to eat a contract for a couple years to get a young player) or move it to get a veteran who can help right away they should.

The Caps are in a position where they can afford to give up a 1st to try and win now.

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As far as the caps #1 draft pick there are a couple of prospects rated a little higher than they would pick that are intriguing if they fell.

Jacob Josefson (SWE) - Center, 6'0, 187
Zack Kassian (Can) - RW, 6'3, 205, OHL
Peter Holland (Can) - Center, 6'2, 190, OHL
Jeremy Morin (USA) - Center, 6'0, 185, going to OHL next season

Others that seem to be more likely in the wheel house.

Drew Shore (USA) - Center, 6'2, 199
Chris Kreider (USA) - LW, 6'2, 201
Landon Ferraro (Can) - RW, 6'0, 170, WHL
Jordan Caron (Can) - Center, 6'2, 196, QMJHL, seems to have some injury concerns over the past couple of years.

There three others I find really intriguing...

Carl Klingberg (SWE) - LW, 6'3, 205, plays a very physical game and works hard apparently.
Ryan O'Reilly (Can) - Center, 6'0, 205, OHL, super character..loves hockey.
Joonas Nattinen (FIN) - Center, 6'2, 176, good faceoff guy
i think you and i are speaking the same language in terms of intrigue.

i want them to stay far away from Caron.

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I'd be thrilled if the draft stayed true to those rankings, and the Caps picked Kreider.
I hope that happens too.

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granted i have only seen 2 of oceanic's games, but caron has not impressed at all, imo.
indeed, the whole team has struggled. Veilleux should by all accounts have 15 points, he gets a chance every time he touches the puck but he has terrible finish.

Piché and Boudreau and Cunti have been the best Oceanic in my mind, i'm just glad they are eliminated.

I am hoping that the Capitals take a fyler on Tyson Barrie (D - KELOWNA) in later rounds, he seems like a sleeper.

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do you know anything about drummondville's #40 dumont? when i watched him play oceanic he reminded me a little of Zetterberg because of the number and hair from the back. he seemed to always be aware of coming back and helping out the D.

all i know about barrie is that i don't like his dad
can't say i know much about him, i've really noticed Frenette and Kulikov the most.

that Cousineau is a gamer in net.

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Dumont seems like a decent option in the fourth or fifth round. He's reportedly playing with some pretty severe injuries and he's always in the mix buzzing around and getting his nose dirty. Not a very big player but very energetic and he did manage to put up close to a point per game in a depth role for Shawinigan. The question is what he projects as at the next level and it's hard to see him as much more than an energy line / PK specialist.

Barrie has a fair amount of offense to his game but is a project in his own end and could go as high as the second round. That describes a number of defensemen already in the system--Lepisto, Godfrey, Seabrook--so I don't really see the allure unless he falls quite a bit. If you're looking for an offensive-minded project in the mid-to-late rounds I'd be inclined to look at someone going the NCAA route like Schmidt, Velischek, Wey or Moffie.

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I know this is the 2009 draft thread but since it is a draft thread i have a question about the 2005 draft.

How in the hell did we end up with the 14th pick after we got the 1st pick in 2004. I mean pittsburgh got the 1st pick in 2005 after getting the 2nd pick in 2004.

Is there a reason for that?


Also what is everyone's thoughts on Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson?

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I know this is the 2009 draft thread but since it is a draft thread i have a question about the 2005 draft.

How in the hell did we end up with the 14th pick after we got the 1st pick in 2004. I mean pittsburgh got the 1st pick in 2005 after getting the 2nd pick in 2004.

Is there a reason for that?


Also what is everyone's thoughts on Magnus Paajarvi-Svensson?
Because we won the 04 lottery, so our chances in the 05 lottery were really bad. That, and the 05 lottery was a total farce in how it was set up.

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