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Hossa vs. Havlat, anyone?

View Poll Results: Who wins, Havlat's Hawks or Hossa's Wings?
Havlat 24 42.11%
Hossa 33 57.89%
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05-16-2009, 05:52 PM
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Jeez, talking about loyalty, how many friggin' times did Havlat hold out, or sign one-year contracts? Didn't any of you EVER get the feeling that he thought he should be paid based on potential rather than performance? He was about our fourth or fifth best player, and yet he wanted to be paid as our first. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Plus, he can't take a slapshot. I find that odd.

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05-16-2009, 06:10 PM
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I'm sure Hossa cares a lot about that sort of juvenile nonsense.
That awaits to be seen. He'll care plenty if he finds out that he took a pay cut only to lose in the Finals to the very team that he abandoned.

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05-16-2009, 06:19 PM
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Jeez, talking about loyalty, how many friggin' times did Havlat hold out, or sign one-year contracts? Didn't any of you EVER get the feeling that he thought he should be paid based on potential rather than performance? He was about our fourth or fifth best player, and yet he wanted to be paid as our first. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

Plus, he can't take a slapshot. I find that odd.
See if you can find some of Muckler's interviews from that time. Muckler said that Havlat wanted longer term contracts but that he, the great hero, Muckler - held out for one year.

The contracts that Muckler offered Havlat were ludicrous. They were not ones that either the players association or Havlat's agent could possibly let him sign.

At the same time Muckler smeared him in the press as another Yashin.

You always knew that Muckler would get rid of Havlat. Too much skill (both Muckler and Murray have taken care of that problem...certainly no one can accuse the Sens of having too much skill anymore. Maybe they thought he had too much speed? That problem has been taken care of too); he was the best bargaining chip (yes, what a fantastic return he got for Havlat) and so on.

Strange that people are still drinking that same old stale Koolaid.

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05-16-2009, 06:22 PM
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That awaits to be seen. He'll care plenty if he finds out that he took a pay cut only to lose in the Finals to the very team that he abandoned.
But we're not talking about the same thing here.

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05-16-2009, 06:30 PM
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That awaits to be seen. He'll care plenty if he finds out that he took a pay cut only to lose in the Finals to the very team that he abandoned.
To blame Hossa for not staying with the Pens seems asinine.

He was traded to the Pens at the deadline and give them his best for the playoff run. We don't know why he didnt want to go back to the Pens, it could have been the coach or somthing else. Anyway, the Wings are a class organization and most of the best players, those who care about winning not just their paycheques,want to play there.

Hossa took a pay cut to go to a team he admired and where he thought he could earn a cup. That to me shows his character. He could have fuddled around half the year like Sundin and gone to the highest bidder, but he didnt.

Hossa was the victom of a sign and trade. He played out the string in Atlanta but wanted to play for a contender. More power to him.

I am tired of the Wings winning, but I would like them to win just one more becuase I want to see Hossa raise the cup.


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05-17-2009, 04:31 AM
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Havlat is cooler than Hossa.

Hossa is probably a better all around scorer though, and more consistent.

It's a really hard pick. I'd go with Havlat because I love his style.

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05-17-2009, 08:43 AM
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Havlat 4 goal game, classic haha, as for havlat or hossa, both deserve it, cannot choose, I'll go for whoever has the least votes.


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05-17-2009, 09:10 AM
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Id take Hossa over Havlat.
While Havlat has great skill, he is not as strong and more prone to injury.

When they both played for us, I managed to have Hossa sign Havlat's stick. Just have never gotten a translation of what he wrote...
Someone on the central europe part of HFBoards translated for me:

He wrote "youngster, don't drink so much", followed by his signature.

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05-17-2009, 09:32 AM
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If Havlat could stay healthy he's a top 10-15 player in the league.

But staying healthy seems to be an issue for Havlat.

If he gets his 10 year contract this summer i'm sure he'll only play 3 years of it (in total). He'll be injured the rest of it.

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05-17-2009, 11:03 AM
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It's unreal the amount of talent we had on this team. Both of these guys, Alife, Chara, etc.

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05-17-2009, 11:47 AM
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It's unreal the amount of talent we had on this team. Both of these guys, Alife, Chara, etc.
wow true, but inflated salaries of all pro players led to the current mess. Even in the old pre-cap era there is no way we could have kept them with the salaries they demanded.

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05-17-2009, 12:15 PM
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If Havlat could stay healthy he's a top 10-15 player in the league.

But staying healthy seems to be an issue for Havlat.

If he gets his 10 year contract this summer i'm sure he'll only play 3 years of it (in total). He'll be injured the rest of it.
He had a full season this year and had 77 points in 81 games playing first line and 1st PP duties AND contract year.

He just needs consistency, which is what separates the great players from the Kovalevs.

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05-17-2009, 03:37 PM
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He had a full season this year and had 77 points in 81 games playing first line and 1st PP duties AND contract year.

He just needs consistency, which is what separates the great players from the Kovalevs.
I don't know if you mean consistency playing wise or health wise but I think hes rather consistent playing wise just health wise... its always been an issue except this year.

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