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BoH Forum "Official Data Sources"

This thread is solely for listing sources of data that we commonly refer to in threads here. [Attendance numbers, revenue numbers, etc.] It should be considered both an informational source and something that helps avoid clutter in threads. Anyone who wants to add a source should PM me with the link and an explanation of what it contains., I'll either move in an old post with the link or create a new post with the link.
  1. Gate Receipts, Complimentary Tickets, Average Ticket Price
    A. The Toronto Star, 2007-08 league year:
    (ii) Toronto Star article.)
    B. The Globe & Mail, Reported gate receipts from 2006-07 [through 1/31/2007]:
    (ii) From the same Globe data, average ticket price & revenue by team in PHP format: http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=1...5&postcount=84

  2. Player Salaries - Actual, Cap Hit, Historical
    A. Cap Hit and Actual
    (i) http://www.capgeek.com
    (ii) http://nhlnumbers.com/
    (iii) NHLPA.com, under Player Profile for current year's salary
    (iv) The Globe & Mail's NHL Salary DB: http://nhlsalary.globesports.com/NHL...obe/index.html
    B. Salary Cap Calculator; Buyout Calculator
    C. Salary History - NHL Players:
    (ii) USA Today (by teams and players, 2000-01 - [B]current)

  3. Reported Attendance
    A. ESPN 2000/01 - Present:
    B. Andrew's Stars Page 1989/90 - present:
    (ii) In .doc format: http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=1...3&postcount=89

  4. NHL National TV Contracts
    A. Canadian TV Contracts:

    B. NBC:
    (i) http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=84443
    (ii) http://www.sportsbusinessgroup.com/pdfs/NHLZero.pdf
    (iii) http://sports.theglobeandmail.com/se...rtsHockey/home
    (iv) http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...w-friends.html
    C. VERSUS:

  5. US & Canada Designated Market Area (DMA) Rankings (see Post #2, below)
    A. 2007-2008 Nielsen Media DMA Rankings of US TV markets:
    B. Top program reports in Canada by BBM-Nielsen per week including NHL TV viewers in select cities):
    C. DMA markets in the USA and Canada per Wikipedia: [sorted by rank for 2007-08]

  6. NHL National TV Ratings Sources
    A. Andrew’s Dallas Stars historical NHL TV ratings:
    B. TV Ratings (US) - general list of top weekly shows by category

  7. Historical Data - NHL Business
    A. Andrew's Stars Page/NHL Business: Forbes Financial Estimates, Levitt Report Numbers, Team Payrolls & Avg Player Salaries, TV ratings, Etc.

  8. CBA and Player's Share of Revenues Scale
    A. Copy of the CBA Link Here for PDF Download from NHL.com
    The players' share will be 54% to the extent League revenues in any year are below $2.2 billion;
    55% when League revenues are between $2.2 billion and $2.4 billion;
    56% when League revenues are between $2.4 billion and $2.7 billion;
    57% when League revenues in any year exceed $2.7 billion. (Prorated within the scale.)
  9. Arena Naming Rights
    A. Arena Naming Rights ($ Value) - ESPN.com

  10. NHL Marketing & Branding Strategy
    A. Brandweek Interview with NHL's John Collins, EVP Sales/Marketing

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(MOD EDIT) TMR Methodology - Opinion/Editorial by ColoradoHockeyFan

Originally Posted by kdb209 View Post
No. That is a BAD place to find pricing info.

The bogus numbers on the Team Marketing Report site have been debunked numerous times on the BoH board.

Probably the best (and possibly the only) numbers you are going to find for avg ticket prices were the numbers leaked last year in the Globe & Mail:

Thank you. (And thanks to Fugu too.)

Continue to spread the message about the worthlessness of Team Marketing Report, and we will eventually triumph over misinformation! Can I get a hallelujah!

And to further the cause, here is the sorted version of the accurate numbers from that Globe and Mail link:

PHP Code:
Average ticket prices by team
Team                   2006
-07  2005-06
Toronto Maple Leafs    80.33    78.98
Colorado Avalanche     71.04    65.55
New York Rangers       63.53    54.19
Dallas Stars           61.43    58.37
Edmonton Oilers        61.14    50.20
Montreal Canadiens     60.82    58.74
Boston Bruins          59.71    56.61
Vancouver Canucks      58.74    56.24
Detroit Red Wings      56.95    56.72
Columbus Blue Jackets  56.07    53.77
Philadelphia Flyers    54.59    51.94
Minnesota Wild         54.54    51.18
Anaheim Ducks          52.25    49.79
San Jose Sharks        50.95    49.05
Calgary Flames         50.70    46.97
Ottawa Senators        50.38    45.30
New Jersey Devils      49.91    48.97
Los Angeles Kings      46.75    44.17
New York Islanders     45.04    46.30
Carolina Hurricanes    44.91    38.81
Tampa Bay Lightning    44.50    42.38
Phoenix Coyotes        43.60    45.66
Chicago Blackhawks     40.79    39.74
Nashville Predators    40.33    34.74
Florida Panthers       39.75    44.59
Washington Capitals    39.57    36.16
Louis Blues        39.50    35.23
Pittsburgh Penguins    38.62    38.05
Atlanta Thrashers      37.27    32.70
Buffalo Sabres         36.67    36.37
League average         52.13    49.31 
Edit: An additional note on one of the reasons that Team Marketing Report's numbers are bogus. Sometime around the 2000-2001 season, they inexplicably decided to stop including anything termed "premium seating" in their average ticket prices. This immediately invalidates their numbers because of the way in which they collect their data--from marketing reps of the respective teams. Each team is allowed to label as "premium seating" any portion of their arena. So a team like Colorado, for example, can simply say that the entire lower bowl is "premium," and exclude it from the average, which is how you wind up with their laughable (made-up) "average" ticket price of under $40!

Edit: For a clear illustration of the effect of the above artificial calculation of average ticket price, observe the historical prices reported by TMR documented here:


Note the average ticket prices reported for Colorado during the 2000-01 season and the 2001-02 season. According to TMR, the average ticket price dropped that year from $63.11 in 2000-01 to $37.36 in 2001-02. In other words, TMR would have you believe that the Avs, coming off of a Stanley Cup winning season, with one of the best single seasons ever put together by an NHL team, not only decided to drop their ticket prices (laughable enough), but decided to drop them by an unheard of 41%! (clearly more laughable). As a season ticket-holder for the past 12 years, I can assure you that no such thing happened (not that I needed to tell you this). There was no drop, obviously. There was an increase (also obviously). The artificial numbers reported by TMR that year (and every year thereafter) are simply the result of the seat classification flaw mentioned above in this post.

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The NYC DMA has 7,391,940 TV Households.


Local Television Market Universe Estimates
Estimates as of January 1, 2008 and used throughout the 2007-2008 television season
Effective September 22, 2007
Rank Designated Market Area (DMA) TV Homes % of US
1 New York 7,391,940 6.553
2 Los Angeles 5,647,440 5.007
3 Chicago 3,469,110 3.076
4 Philadelphia 2,939,950 2.606
5 Dallas-Ft. Worth 2,435,600 2.159
6 San Francisco-Oak-San Jose 2,419,440 2.145
7 Boston (Manchester) 2,393,960 2.122
8 Atlanta 2,310,490 2.048
9 Washington, DC (Hagrstwn) 2,308,290 2.046
10 Houston 2,050,550 1.818
11 Detroit 1,925,460 1.707
12 Phoenix (Prescott) 1,802,550 1.598
13 Tampa-St. Pete (Sarasota) 1,783,910 1.582
14 Seattle-Tacoma 1,782,040 1.580
15 Minneapolis-St. Paul 1,706,740 1.513
16 Miami-Ft. Lauderdale 1,536,020 1.362
17 Cleveland-Akron (Canton) 1,533,710 1.360
18 Denver 1,477,280 1.310
19 Orlando-Daytona Bch-Melbrn 1,434,050 1.271
20 Sacramnto-Stkton-Modesto 1,391,790 1.234
21 St. Louis 1,244,370 1.103
22 Pittsburgh 1,158,210 1.027
23 Portland, OR 1,150,320 1.020
24 Baltimore 1,095,490 0.971
25 Charlotte 1,085,640 0.962
26 Indianapolis 1,072,090 0.950
27 San Diego 1,051,210 0.932
28 Raleigh-Durham (Fayetvlle) 1,039,890 0.922
29 Hartford & New Haven 1,007,490 0.893
30 Nashville 966,170 0.857
31 Kansas City 927,060 0.822
32 Columbus, OH 905,690 0.803
33 Cincinnati 904,340 0.802
34 Milwaukee 891,010 0.790
35 Salt Lake City 874,650 0.775
36 Greenvll-Spart-Ashevll-And 838,270 0.743
37 San Antonio 792,440 0.703
38 West Palm Beach-Ft. Pierce 775,340 0.687
39 Grand Rapids-Kalmzoo-B.Crk 739,640 0.656
41 Harrisburg-Lncstr-Leb-York 723,620 0.642
40 Birmingham (Ann, Tusc) 730,430 0.648
42 Norfolk-Portsmth-Newpt Nws 717,440 0.636
43 Las Vegas 707,470 0.627
44 Albuquerque-Santa Fe 677,740 0.601
45 Oklahoma City 676,850 0.600
46 Greensboro-H.Point-W.Salem 671,980 0.596
47 Memphis 667,890 0.592
48 Louisville 657,180 0.583
49 Jacksonville 655,470 0.581
50 Buffalo 636,700 0.564

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BoH Forum "Official Data Sources"

Thought this was noteworthy enough to deserve its own thread. One of the side effects of the Phoenix bankruptcy case is that several previously non-public NHL documents have been included in the court filings. This includes the NHL Constitution as well as some of the ByLaws and BoG procedure documents. I know we have many posters here on the BoH that would like to look at these.

Here's what I've been able to find available online so far:

From the William Daly declaration: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/v5/co...oyotesDaly.pdf
- NHL Constitution: pages 26-56
- NHL ByLaw 35 (Transfer of Franchise Ownership): pages 58-59
- NHL ByLaw 36 (Transfer of Franchise Location): pages 79-83
- NHL and NHL Enterprises licensing agreement: pages 61-77

- Complete NHL By-Laws:
part 1: http://multimedia.thestar.com/acroba...aabfd50c84.pdf
part 2: http://multimedia.thestar.com/acroba...ad66870a42.pdf

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