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05-15-2009, 03:35 PM
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Bruins can afford 1 at least.

They don't have to pay Fernandez and can trade 1 or 2 guys with mid-level contracts.

Krejci and Kessel don't deserve more than 3M each - probably more like 2M.
You have absolutely no concept of what the NHL salary structure is like in today's NHL. None.

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I can tell you that there is zero chance that Boynton is coming back to Boston...none.
Was afraid of that. I know he's not exactly the most coachable guy but I like his play on the ice.

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05-15-2009, 04:12 PM
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I don't expect us to sign a single guy outside of our organization, if we do it will be a Yelle type, perhaps on D. I would expect one of Savard or Kessel to be gone in a trade but ideally my team would look like.

Lucic-Savard-Kessel
Sturm-Bergeron-Kobasew
Wheeler-Krejci-Ryder
Axe-Bitz-Thornton

Chara-Wideman
Stuart-Hunwick
Ward-Ference
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05-15-2009, 04:32 PM
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I don't expect us to sign a single guy outside of our organization, if we do it will be a Yelle type, perhaps on D. I would expect one of Savard or Kessel to be gone in a trade but ideally my team would look like.

Lucic-Savard-Kessel
Sturm-Bergeron-Kobasew
Wheeler-Krejci-Ryder
Axe-Bitz-Thornton

Chara-Wideman
Stuart-Hunwick
Ward-Ference
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Tamps, if that can fit under the cap, I'm all for it. I agree that keeping one of Yelle & Axe is good. I think one of Ward or Ference could be moved.

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Tamps, if that can fit under the cap, I'm all for it. I agree that keeping one of Yelle & Axe is good. I think one of Ward or Ference could be moved.
Yea I feel exactly the same way about that lineup. It's what I would love to have for next year for the 12 forwards. I just don't think it's possible capwise.

Also agree about Ward or Ference. Ward would be making way too much money for a 3rd pairing defenseman.

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05-16-2009, 03:21 PM
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I don't expect us to sign a single guy outside of our organization, if we do it will be a Yelle type, perhaps on D. I would expect one of Savard or Kessel to be gone in a trade but ideally my team would look like.

Lucic-Savard-Kessel
Sturm-Bergeron-Kobasew
Wheeler-Krejci-Ryder
Axe-Bitz-Thornton

Chara-Wideman
Stuart-Hunwick
Ward-Ference
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#1 I don't like your new handle go back to Tampbear
#2 Remove Axe insert Sobotka
#3 What if he who shall not be named shows up at camp............

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If Axelsson doesn't return for whatever reason, what do you guys + gals think of Travis Moen as a 3rd line LW and penalty killer? Moen brings size and physicality.

His cap number was .912 on his last contract.

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05-17-2009, 10:50 AM
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If Axelsson doesn't return for whatever reason, what do you guys + gals think of Travis Moen as a 3rd line LW and penalty killer? Moen brings size and physicality.

His cap number was .912 on his last contract.
I like Moen a lot. Tough kid...we should have acquired him instead of Montador.

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05-17-2009, 11:27 AM
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A couple mid to lower level UFA' I'd like to see I'd we could move some money out...

Oduya
Beauchemin
Morris
Seidenberg
Leopold

Steve Begin
Scott Nichol
Travis Moen
Mike Rupp

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05-17-2009, 12:13 PM
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Nevermind...just saw that Tukka Rask is getting 3.2M!!! Are you kidding me?
His hit next year in under a million dollars. That 3.2 million is tied to bonuses which he will never see.

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His hit next year in under a million dollars. That 3.2 million is tied to bonuses which he will never see.
I don't think that is exactly correct.

I believe his cap number is 3.2 million until it becomes impossible for him to achieve his bonuses. When it becomes impossible for him to achieve his bonuses the Bruins will get cap relief which could be used for midseason pickups.

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I don't think that is exactly correct.

I believe his cap number is 3.2 million until it becomes impossible for him to achieve his bonuses. When it becomes impossible for him to achieve his bonuses the Bruins will get cap relief which could be used for midseason pickups.
I got a number of $850,000 from the capologist at SOSH, PedrospecialK who also posts here. He has the numbers down pretty damn good. I also heard the same thing from KPD on the radio.

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A couple mid to lower level UFA' I'd like to see I'd we could move some money out...

Oduya
Beauchemin
Morris
Seidenberg
Leopold

Steve Begin
Scott Nichol
Travis Moen
Mike Rupp
PM you hit the nail on the head with that one. Seidenberg is the exact type of defenceman we are looking for. Size and speed, very physical and has alot of puck sense. If we could add him to our defence corps that would really make an impact IMO.

Chara - Wideman
Seidenberg - Stuart
Ward - Hunwick

3 pairings that can all play 20 minutes, each pairing has capabilities at both ends of the ice and it balances out the talent on our backend well so that Chara and Wideman don't have to take as much of the burden as they did this season.

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05-17-2009, 04:16 PM
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#1 I don't like your new handle go back to Tampbear
#2 Remove Axe insert Sobotka
#3 What if he who shall not be named shows up at camp............
It won't let me change it back just yet, but I agree, changing the name was a rash move.

I would like to get Sobotka in there, but I think the team needs Axe more than Sobotka right now. Truthfully I would like to sit Wheeler for him, but that is not a realistic expectation.

The third thing I would like to plan for but I don't have any real reason to yet.

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05-17-2009, 08:28 PM
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It won't let me change it back just yet, but I agree, changing the name was a rash move.

I would like to get Sobotka in there, but I think the team needs Axe more than Sobotka right now. Truthfully I would like to sit Wheeler for him, but that is not a realistic expectation.

The third thing I would like to plan for but I don't have any real reason to yet.
My name change didn't work out either
Axe is going back to Sweden imo
little birdie told me "expect a re signing very soon"

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05-18-2009, 08:29 PM
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My name change didn't work out either
Axe is going back to Sweden imo
little birdie told me "expect a re signing very soon"
I would be ok if Axe went back to Sweden, I still like him on the team though.

for the re-signing do you mean Soda?

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05-23-2009, 06:59 AM
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just recieved this months hockey news mag and they have krecji ranked 8th in top free agents of 2009 , also has kessel ranked 14th. also says both will recieve offer sheets . lets get them both signed already.

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I could see the B's signing a 7th Defeneman and perhaps a reserve Forward but that's it for Boston. We could see some 2 way contract signings but who knows.

Lucic - Savard - Kessel
Wheeler - Krejci - Ryder
Sturm - Bergeron - Kobasew
Bitz - Sobotka - Thornton

Chara - Wideman
Ference - Hunwick
Ward - Stuart

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05-23-2009, 03:05 PM
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I could see the B's signing a 7th Defeneman and perhaps a reserve Forward but that's it for Boston. We could see some 2 way contract signings but who knows.

Lucic - Savard - Kessel
Wheeler - Krejci - Ryder
Sturm - Bergeron - Kobasew
Bitz - Sobotka - Thornton

Chara - Wideman
Ference - Hunwick
Ward - Stuart

Thomas
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If PC takes the view that he likes the team as is with Hunwick/Ference healthy that line-up with Murray still in as a buyout will still allow for a significant trade deadline acquisition which may be the best route to go next year when all is said and done with ward being the only one removed.


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I got a number of $850,000 from the capologist at SOSH, PedrospecialK who also posts here. He has the numbers down pretty damn good. I also heard the same thing from KPD on the radio.
agreed on PSK (even if he is wrong which I don't think he is if much, he's excellent at this stuff); makes me wonder why all the gloom and doom. If the Bruins can get Muzz contract off and sign the K's for what PSK has (and it might even be high) then the Bruins don't have to make any significant cuts, Also, someone wrote the cap can't go down if revenues are up, and didn't they go up this year?

Next year is the concern, but even then the Bruins have contracts coming off, and will have a clearer idea on Bergeron's value, and how it may effect an extension for Savard. or to just let him go; as well as others like Thornton, Ward & Ference coming off. That might be the problem year but that's still $10 Mil off the books.

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agreed on PSK (even if he is wrong which I don't think he is if much, he's excellent at this stuff); makes me wonder why all the gloom and doom. If the Bruins can get Muzz contract off and sign the K's for what PSK has (and it might even be high) then the Bruins don't have to make any significant cuts, Also, someone wrote the cap can't go down if revenues are up, and didn't they go up this year?

Next year is the concern, but even then the Bruins have contracts coming off, and will have a clearer idea on Bergeron's value, and how it may effect an extension for Savard. or to just let him go; as well as others like Thornton, Ward & Ference coming off. That might be the problem year but that's still $10 Mil off the books.

Dan, where did you see this and what are the K's numbers indicated? Thanks.

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drop to UFA: yelle, recchi, fernandez

Trade Ference for a pick
Trade Ward for a pick

resign Kessel 3.5 per /5 years
resign Krejci 3.0 per / 4 years
resign Hunwick 1.3 per / 3 years
Sign Derrick Morris 1.3 / 1 year

Call up Rask and Sobotka

Lucic(850,000) - Savard(5,000,000) - Kessel(3,500,000)
Wheeler(2,825,000) - Krecji(3,000,000) - Ryder(4,000,000)
Sturm(3,500,000) - Bergeron(4,750,000) - Kobasew(2,333,333)
Bitz(740,000) - Sobotka(750,000) - Thornton(516,667)

Chara(7,500,000) - Wideman(3,937,500)
Stuart(1,300,000) - Hunwick(1,300,000)
Morris(1,300,000) - Montador(800,000)/Hindy(757,000)


Thomas (5,000,000)
Rask (3,200,000)

Cap Hit: 56,859,500 (which is over the current cap limit) Question: is the CBA counting the bonuses next year? This would be the Ideal team that would put us over the top I think (Un-Injured) if it was ever possible to put this together.

Well this is what I could put together, I know it's flawed but.. it was worth a shot.

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drop to UFA: yelle, recchi, fernandez

Trade Ference for a pick
Trade Ward for a pick

resign Kessel 3.5 per /5 years
resign Krejci 3.0 per / 4 years
resign Hunwick 1.3 per / 3 years
Sign Derrick Morris 1.3 / 1 year

Call up Rask and Sobotka

Lucic(850,000) - Savard(5,000,000) - Kessel(3,500,000)
Wheeler(2,825,000) - Krecji(3,000,000) - Ryder(4,000,000)
Sturm(3,500,000) - Bergeron(4,750,000) - Kobasew(2,333,333)
Bitz(740,000) - Sobotka(750,000) - Thornton(516,667)

Chara(7,500,000) - Wideman(3,937,500)
Stuart(1,300,000) - Hunwick(1,300,000)
Morris(1,300,000) - Montador(800,000)/Hindy(757,000)


Thomas (5,000,000)
Rask (3,200,000)

Cap Hit: 56,859,500 (which is over the current cap limit) Question: is the CBA counting the bonuses next year? This would be the Ideal team that would put us over the top I think (Un-Injured) if it was ever possible to put this together.

Well this is what I could put together, I know it's flawed but.. it was worth a shot.
Wheeler and Rask will count for 0.875 and 0.850 respectively. So a difference of 4.3 million just on those 2 alone, which in turn brings your cap number down to 52,559,500. Huge difference just on those two. Plus Recchi could also replace Kobasew and free up around another million if neccessary.

I don't see the Bruins being in that much cap trouble at all.

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Ideally I see the Bruins signing Krejci, letting Kessel get a offer sheet and if 4.5mil+ let him walk, if less then match it.

I see Krejci getting signed at 4 years at 5mil per.
Kessel at 5 years for 4 mil per.
Resign Hunwick at 1.25mil for 3 years
Sign Dennis Siedenberg for 2 years at 2mil per.
Let Montador, Axe walk.
Resign Hnidy for 1 year at 800k
Resign Yelle for 1 year at 600k.
Trade both Ference and Ward for a picks.
Call up Rask and you get a lineup like this:

Wheeler-Savard-Kessel
Lucic-Krejci-Ryder
Sturm-Bergeron-Kobasew
Bitz-Yelle-Thornton

Chara-Hunwick
Wideman-Hnidy
Siedenberg-Stuart

Thomas
Rask

That would be a cap hit of around 54,264,167. I may be a little off but that sounds pretty swell to me, and that's quite a solid team. This is without taking in to account possible bonuses though.

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Ideally I see the Bruins signing Krejci, letting Kessel get a offer sheet and if 4.5mil+ let him walk, if less then match it.
I see Krejci getting signed at 4 years at 5mil per.
Kessel at 5 years for 4 mil per.
Resign Hunwick at 1.25mil for 3 years
Sign Dennis Siedenberg for 2 years at 2mil per.
Let Montador, Axe walk.
Resign Hnidy for 1 year at 800k
Resign Yelle for 1 year at 600k.
Trade both Ference and Ward for a picks.
Call up Rask and you get a lineup like this:

Wheeler-Savard-Kessel
Lucic-Krejci-Ryder
Sturm-Bergeron-Kobasew
Bitz-Yelle-Thornton

Chara-Hunwick
Wideman-Hnidy
Siedenberg-Stuart

Thomas
Rask

That would be a cap hit of around 54,264,167. I may be a little off but that sounds pretty swell to me, and that's quite a solid team. This is without taking in to account possible bonuses though.
The bolded statement I do not agree at all with CB however I'm with you the rest of the way. I believe Kessel is just as important to this teams future as Krejci and we need both.

From that point on we agree on just about everything, I think 5mil per year for DK might be a little high, I could see both him and Phil at 4mil per year.

But the Seidenberg addition would be huge for the Bruins, I've been on that bandwagon myself. I think your lines are very well balanced and I like your defence pairs very much. I know he's no star but I'd definatly keep Hnidy over Montador, I think Shane has proved he's valuable to us.

So I think outside of a little disagreement off the top our ideal Bruins team is pretty much a mirror image.

edit: Knew I forgot someone, I'd love to keep Aaron Ward, I just love the way the guy plays he's a warrior.

And if Axelsson will come back I take him over Yelle but from what I've been hearing he's likely going to Frolunda.

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