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Leafs moving back in draft to #13 slot (buffalo)

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05-29-2009, 05:16 PM
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Leafs moving back in draft to #13 slot (buffalo)

According to http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=31878 what this guy has to say, Ryan Ellis will get drafted 13th overall.
Now lets say HYPOTHETICALLY leafs want to move back to 13th to draft him. What would Buffalo have to give T.O to move up?

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According to http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=31878 what this guy has to say, Ryan Ellis will get drafted 13th overall.
Now lets say HYPOTHETICALLY leafs want to move back to 13th to draft him. What would Buffalo have to give T.O to move up?
As there's a drop off after 7 ... T. Meyers

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Not many attractive pieces in Buffalo... wouldn't consider moving down to 13 unless Tyler Myers was coming our way. Perhaps consider Derek Roy.

That being said, problably not happening.

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Not likely for Buffalo to select a D with their first pick. The org needs some F depth especially with size.

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As there's a drop off after 7 ... T. Meyers
Its Myers....and no chance we (the leafs) get him

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Not many attractive pieces in Buffalo... wouldn't consider moving down to 13 unless Tyler Myers was coming our way. Perhaps consider Derek Roy.

That being said, problably not happening.
Derek Roy to move up 6 spots?


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Buffalo wont move up. They'll stay there and take Kassian, and if not him, Ellis

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Buffalo wont move up. They'll stay there and take Kassian, and if not him, Ellis
If they can move up to 7, they can pick up Schroder or Cowan. Both will be better than Kassian and Ellis, respectively.

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the leafs need forwards

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the leafs need forwards
I would think they need another defenseman, like Voctir Hadmen.

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Not many attractive pieces in Buffalo... wouldn't consider moving down to 13 unless Tyler Myers was coming our way. Perhaps consider Derek Roy.

That being said, problably not happening.
Yes, give up Myers to move up to draft a player who won't be as good as Myers. Seems like a solid idea.

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I would think they need another defenseman, like Voctir Hadmen.
Well, we do need another young top 4 defenceman. But, i would guess if we move down to 13, it would be for one of Ellis, or Moore. However, this teams biggest needs are for top line forwards and goalies. To move down to 13, i think we would probably ask for a good forward or goalie prospect. Maybe something could be worked around the 7th overall, 13th overall, and Enroth.


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Well, we do need another young top 4 defenceman. But, i would guess if we move down to 13, it would be for one of Ellis, or Moore. However, this teams biggest needs are for top line forwards and goalies. To move down to 13, i think we would probably ask for a good forward or goalie prospect. Maybe something could be worked around the 7th overall, 13th overall, and Enroth.
When was the last time a team traded one of their top prospects to move up 6 spots--and not even into the top 5??

Toronto is NOT getting Myers or Enroth, so you guys can stop tossing them in like they're worthless.

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When was the last time a team traded one of their top prospects to move up 6 spots--and not even into the top 5??

Toronto is NOT getting Myers or Enroth, so you guys can stop tossing them in like they're worthless.
Where in my post does it say top prosepect? I said a good forward or goalie prospect. Secondly, in this years draft, after 7 there is a talent drop off. Teams have to overpay this year to get into the top 7, specially when its a drop of 6 spots. Next, it says a deal could be worked around the 7th, Enroth, and 13th. Enroth is not that good. With Miller signed till 2013, why does Buffalo even need him?

Oh, and finally, maybe read a post carefully before flaming away.


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Where in my post does it say top prosepect? I said a good forward or goalie prospect. Secondly, in this years draft, after 7 there is a talent drop off. We are not dropping for scraps or spare parts. Next, it says a could be worked around the 7th, Enroth, and 13th. Enroth is good, but not that good. With Miller signed till 2013, why does Buffalo even need him?

Oh, and finally, maybe read a post carefully before flaming away.
You may not have said top prospect, but thats what Enroth is. He's one of our top 2 or 3 prospects. and yes he is that good.

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You may not have said top prospect, but thats what Enroth is. He's one of our top 2 or 3 prospects. and yes he is that good.
He's not that good. Harding has proven alot more and Enroth is not Harding good. But serously it says around that pick. When i say around, that means it could be adjusted, or added to. Miller is your starting goalie and everyone knows that. So why do you think its farfetched that you deal him, in this years draft to fill another hole in your organization?

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13th and ennis for 7th.

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13th and ennis for 7th.
All for it. I think the leafs might need to add a second rounder to that.


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According to this guy, Schenn is going 7th, why would Burke trade down when the guy he wants falls into his laps?

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Lets say the leafs do move to 13. If we have the choice to draft either Ellis or Moore, whom do we go with? I say Moore.

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When was the last time a team traded one of their top prospects to move up 6 spots--and not even into the top 5??

Toronto is NOT getting Myers or Enroth, so you guys can stop tossing them in like they're worthless.
it wasnt a toronto fan that made this trade proposal, and the question was asked what Buff. would have to give up to get the leafs pick, and there is no way in hell that toronto trades that pick for nothing but the 13th pick, especially when the drop off of talent is pretty high after 7th. So buff would have to give up something significant, it is 6 places in the draft after all, so ya you can be almost certain burke wouild ask for myers, not saying buff would be smart to do that, but thats probably what it would take.

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When was the last time a team traded one of their top prospects to move up 6 spots--and not even into the top 5??

Toronto is NOT getting Myers or Enroth, so you guys can stop tossing them in like they're worthless.
While I can't see Burke dropping that far down, if he did, I would expect that he would want guys like Myers and Enroth as well as the 13th pick (and probably more).

Also, I don't think that anyone here was calling either Myers or Enroth "worthless". I know I'm not.

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it wasnt a toronto fan that made this trade proposal, and the question was asked what Buff. would have to give up to get the leafs pick, and there is no way in hell that toronto trades that pick for nothing but the 13th pick, especially when the drop off of talent is pretty high after 7th. So buff would have to give up something significant, it is 6 places in the draft after all, so ya you can be almost certain burke wouild ask for myers, not saying buff would be smart to do that, but thats probably what it would take.
He might as well ask for Roy, Miller, Enroth, Ennis, and Stafford in addition to Myers. He's going to get the same response from Darcy Regier.

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He's not that good. Harding has proven alot more and Enroth is not Harding good. But serously it says around that pick. When i say around, that means it could be adjusted, or added to. Miller is your starting goalie and everyone knows that. So why do you think its farfetched that you deal him, in this years draft to fill another hole in your organization?
Maybe you should do a little research as Enroth is the only potential NHL caliber goalie signed in the organization outside of Miller and Lalime. They couldn't let him go without needing to sign or trade for another goalie. Smart teams deal from a positional strength which goalie and forward isn't for Buffalo. If the Leafs wanted a prospect to entice Buffalo to move up it would have to come from the Brennan, Gragnani, Schleistel, Weber, Persson logjam.

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Not many attractive pieces in Buffalo... wouldn't consider moving down to 13 unless Tyler Myers was coming our way. Perhaps consider Derek Roy.

That being said, problably not happening.
lol you want Buffalo to give up one of their best players if not the best to move up 6 spots?

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