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06-04-2009, 08:05 PM
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Colorado - Los Angeles

To Col:
Tom Preissing (2.750)
Jack Johnson (RFA) (Previously 2.150)

To LA:
Scott Hannan (4.50)
Darcy Tucker (2.25)
'09 3rd Round Pick (63rd overall)


Revamped deal:

To Col:
Johnson (2.15) [RFA]
'09 3rd (?? overall)

To LA:
Wolski (2.80)

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LA gets a solid defender in Hannan and rid themselves of Preissing. Tucker sucks, but he's only signed for one more year. The 3rd round pick is compensation for taking on additional salary.

Colorado gets a chance to develop a former 3rd overall draft selection, and rid themselves of Darcy Tucker. I also think Preissing can be effective if put in a new surrounding. Colorado also saves about 2 million in salary (once Johnson is re-signed).


Flame away.


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06-04-2009, 08:12 PM
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You are buying me a new keyboard. I spit Water all over my keyboard when i read this deal.


But no less this is retarded.

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I lol'd iced tea all over the computer desk. LA gets *****.


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I lol'd iced tea all over the computer desk. LA gets *****.
Why? Johnson blows ass right now. -42 in his 120 game career, and only 9 goals to go along with it. This trade is a gamble for Colorado, not LA. At least they get an established #2 defenseman. Oh, and find me some LA fans who want Preissing.

That's what I thought.


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06-04-2009, 08:20 PM
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LA politely declines.

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06-04-2009, 08:23 PM
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Why? Johnson blows ass right now. -42 in his 120 game career, and only 9 goals to go along with it. This trade is a gamble for Colorado, not LA. At least they get an established #2 defenseman. Oh, and find me some LA fans who want Preissing.

That's what I thought.
LA will keep JJ for this trade.

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06-04-2009, 08:24 PM
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LA will keep JJ for this trade.
Fair enough, but I think we can at least agree this trade isn't that far off in value.

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06-04-2009, 08:24 PM
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Kings ONLY trade Johnson for scoring.

Let's talk Wolski or Svatos.

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06-04-2009, 08:25 PM
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You forgot to include the 3rd overall. Thanks.

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06-04-2009, 08:26 PM
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Kings ONLY trade Johnson for scoring.
How about something like:

To LA:
Wolski (2.80)
Svatos (2.05)

To Col:
Johnson (2.15) (RFA)
'09 2nd (35th overall) or '09 3rd (65th overall)

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06-04-2009, 08:30 PM
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To Col:
Tom Preissing (2.750)
Jack Johnson (RFA) (Previously 2.150)

To LA:
Scott Hannan (4.50)
Darcy Tucker (2.25)
'09 3rd Round Pick (63rd overall)

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LA gets a solid defender in Hannan and rid themselves of Preissing. Tucker sucks, but he's only signed for one more year. The 3rd round pick is compensation for taking on additional salary.

Colorado gets a chance to develop a former 3rd overall draft selection, and rid themselves of Darcy Tucker. I also think Preissing can be effective if put in a new surrounding. Colorado also saves about 2 million in salary (once Johnson is re-signed).

Flame away.
I think flames you will get

both ave players are beiung run out of town by the fans. Kings get hosed with their pants on

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06-04-2009, 08:31 PM
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How about something like:

To LA:
Wolski (2.80)
Svatos (2.05)

To Col:
Johnson (2.15) (RFA)
'09 2nd (35th overall) or '09 3rd (65th overall)

?
Take out Svatos and make the 2nd a 3rd and I'd consider doing that. Wolski plays LW/C right?

I think the 2nd rounder would be enough for Svatos, but we don't have room for both and I want DL to keep the 35th overall, or try to move it up.

Although now that I think of it, I don't think LA has the 65th overall, I think we have a 3rd but that it came from someone else.

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06-04-2009, 08:32 PM
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I think flames you will get

both ave players are beiung run out of town by the fans. Kings get hosed with their pants on
Hannan? Colorado's best defensive defender is getting run out of town? Since when?

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How about something like:

To LA:
Wolski (2.80)
Svatos (2.05)

To Col:
Johnson (2.15) (RFA)
'09 2nd (35th overall) or '09 3rd (65th overall)

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LA would do that trade in a heartbeat.

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06-04-2009, 08:33 PM
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Take out Svatos and make the 2nd a 3rd and I'd consider doing that. Wolski plays LW/C right?

I think the 2nd rounder would be enough for Svatos, but we don't have room for both and I want DL to keep the 35th overall, or try to move it up.

Although now that I think of it, I don't think LA has the 65th overall, I think we have a 3rd but that it came from someone else.
Yeah he does. He played center this year, but LW the two years before this one.

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06-04-2009, 08:35 PM
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Yeah he does. He played center this year, but LW the two years before this one.
hmmm...

Wolski-Stoll-Brown is not a bad 2nd line.

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It could be equal, but we don't really want to trade potential for potential... looking for potential for talent at this point

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Why? Johnson blows ass right now. -42 in his 120 game career, and only 9 goals to go along with it. This trade is a gamble for Colorado, not LA. At least they get an established #2 defenseman. Oh, and find me some LA fans who want Preissing.

That's what I thought.
If Johnson blows, why on earth would Colorado want him?

The reality is, for significant stretches of the past 2 seasons, Johnson has been LA's top defenseman. That doesn't say that much - given LA's core (particularly 2 seasons ago) but the guy is hardly a bust. He is progressing and well on his way to be a top pairing, if not #1, defenseman.

LA will not be 'dumping' Johnson. If he goes, he goes for quality scoring. And I don't see a fit with Colorado. Perhaps if a swap of firsts and Wolski is in the deal.

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06-04-2009, 08:43 PM
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Why? Johnson blows ass right now. -42 in his 120 game career, and only 9 goals to go along with it. This trade is a gamble for Colorado, not LA. At least they get an established #2 defenseman. Oh, and find me some LA fans who want Preissing.

That's what I thought.
You clearly have not watched Johnson play. Ever.

Oh yes, +/- is the perfect indication of skill...

We don't want a softie on our team like Wolski

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If Johnson blows, why on earth would Colorado want him?

The reality is, for significant stretches of the past 2 seasons, Johnson has been LA's top defenseman. That doesn't say that much - given LA's core (particularly 2 seasons ago) but the guy is hardly a bust. He is progressing and well on his way to be a top pairing, if not #1, defenseman.

LA will not be 'dumping' Johnson. If he goes, he goes for quality scoring. And I don't see a fit with Colorado. Perhaps if a swap of firsts and Wolski is in the deal.
Because he's only 21, and the reason he blows is the way LA has been using him. LA is deep defensively, but in Colorado he'd likely get the top power play time with Liles to show if he can be the offensive dynamo he was made out to be when he was drafted.

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You clearly have not watched Johnson play. Ever.

Oh yes, +/- is the perfect indication of skill...

We don't want a softie on our team like Wolski
I've watched him play many times. He isn't given alot of offensive chances, and isn't good in his own end.

Doughty was clearly better than him last year, despite being a rookie.

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To LA:
Wojtek Wolski
Marek Svatos
3rd Overall

To COL:
Jack Johnson
Teddy Purcell
5th overall
35th overall

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