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06-08-2009, 07:36 PM
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Racist is the wrong word, but it is generalizing.

The fact is, nationality should not matter. But any team that doesn't ask a player if they ever intend to play for them before drafting them is making a huge mistake. That goes for everyone from PK Subban to Emelin.

I am all for drafting Russians, just be sure to check with them to see if they want to come over before wasting a pick.
Sounds good in theory, but far from realistic. You'll ask an 18 year old Russian if he wants to play in the NHL, for the Habs, and he MAY tell you yes, but in comes the Russian league offering him much more money (tax free) on a guaranteed contract, allowing him to stay relatively close to home rather than play in a foreign country overseas, and see if they'll honor those words made a few years earlier...

Rarely do you see Canadian players not wanting to play in Canada. Not saying that it never happens, but they are few and far between.


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His AGENT told them he was staying. Hello?

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This kid was wayyyyyy overhyped cause he has a few good games against 17-19 year olds.
You can blame it on McGuire who still think he's the same player than 3 or 4 years ago. Naming him the best d-men outside of the NHL and he surely never saw him play ever again after the Worlds...

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06-08-2009, 07:39 PM
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You can blame it on McGuire who still think he's the same player than 3 or 4 years ago. Naming him the best d-men outside of the NHL and he surely never saw him play ever again after the Worlds...
Sounds about right.

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His AGENT told them he was staying. Hello?
Yeah, the direct quote attributed to Meehan lends this report a pretty good share of credibility. That's damn disappointing, I was really hoping we'd be able to get him over to North America for a year of adjustment in the AHL with a few games in the show before giving him a real chance to shine next year.

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06-08-2009, 07:49 PM
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Been waiting for him for so long... Too long. **** him now, he can stay in ****ing Russia.

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06-08-2009, 07:51 PM
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http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p....php?pid=78669

I'd stay home with those stats too. He makes Jeff Finger look good!

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How about getting the right Russians? How about doing a better job in really knowing their intentions? How the heck does the Rangers are able to convince Grachev and Anisimov to join their ranks while we're unable to do so?
Vokourov needs to do a better job to know their real intentions.....
I feel the same way. If they can't do a better job of reading their Russian-prospects' intentions, they need to stay away.

Prospect Psychology Fail !

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06-08-2009, 07:57 PM
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Racist is the wrong word, but it is generalizing.

The fact is, nationality should not matter. But any team that doesn't ask a player if they ever intend to play for them before drafting them is making a huge mistake. That goes for everyone from PK Subban to Emelin.

I am all for drafting Russians, just be sure to check with them to see if they want to come over before wasting a pick.
best post!
the rest of you guys....LOL

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06-08-2009, 08:04 PM
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It's rue frontenac
Which is a group of real journalists, just locked out.

Just because a report originates from the web doesn't make it false.

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06-08-2009, 08:06 PM
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These guys are after one way contracts when they are playing pro over there!

With todays reality of the salary cap! Teams can't afford giving away those one way contract to a guy that may or may not make the team and fock off back to europe!

So I say that if a player is so commited to make the NHL he should first sign a 2 way and then see how it goes!

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maybe its their way of playing hardball.

how can Meehan not know exactly how long or if he signed for sure.

fool's hope?

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I wrote this guy off a while ago, no sense in really counting him amongst our prospects. I consider Valentenko the same way.

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Which is a group of real journalists, just locked out.

Just because a report originates from the web doesn't make it false.
Dude....Covering sport is not journalism it's gossiping

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Sounds good in theory, but far from realistic. You'll ask an 18 year old Russian if he wants to play in the NHL, for the Habs, and he MAY tell you yes, but in comes the Russian league offering him much more money (tax free) on a guaranteed contract, allowing him to stay relatively close to home rather than play in a foreign country overseas, and see if they'll honor those words made a few years earlier...

Rarely do you see Canadian players not wanting to play in Canada. Not saying that it never happens, but they are few and far between.
Agreed, this is true, but that is part of the skill of today's NHL.

Teams need to do their research on high value Europeans. I mean, imagine the laughter if what happened to Cherepanov (in his draft year, not later) had happened to say... Ovechkin.

People still need to draft Europeans and Russians if they're the best guy available. They just need to do their research and make sure the guy is committed to North America.

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Dude....Covering sport is not journalism it's gossiping
Depends how you do it.

A lot of random stuff this year was more akin to People than Time, I admit, but this article is pretty straight forward journalism.

Step #1: Hear report.

Step #2: Call agent. Confirm report.

Step #3: Post facts.

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Not to sound like sour grapes but this is my train of thought. Based on what I've heard from posters here who have seen him play on a (semi)regular basis and his stats in the KHL I can't help but think he knows he's not good enough to play in the NHL.
Think about it, if you're making 2,3,4MM in Russia and still have fairly poor performance and are a bottom pairing defenceman why on Earth would you leave. If he comes over to the NHL and sucks he won't be able to go back and get the same kind of money in Russia because he can't wave the NHL card to them anymore because no one here will want him. So, he dangles a Habs contract offer to Ak Bars and they bump up their offer to make him stay. If you ask me, the only way or time he will ever come over is when he's run out of the KHL and some retard GM takes a flyer on him because of his talent, at which point he will demand NHL money and top dman time and will surely disappoint.
That's just the way I see it and as such, **** him, let him rot in Ak Bars.

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Are we going to hear about the possibility of Emelin coming over next year too ?

Who cares, he wouldn't be a top 4 like people had him. O'bryne would probably be higher and would ultimately cause Emelin to be in the AHL where he would have split anyways.

He probably makes more money there, he's close to home, let him stay there. He wouldn't drastically improve this team anyways.

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06-08-2009, 09:46 PM
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Trade his rights for what ? Gomez ? His rights have no value. The only rights of a Russian player we have that have any value are of Perezhogin and that's a 5th maybe ? Depends on the cap space of the team wanting him.


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What's up with drafting losers who don't want to play in the best hockey league of the world?

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Could it be that Meehan is trying to raise the bid ? Is he Komisarek's agent too ? Maybe this will lead to a higher contract to Mike....

BTW - what exactly were the Habs allowed to offer ? Is there a cap for entry level contracts in NHL applying to Emelin ?

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