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Stamkos+ for NYI pick

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06-09-2009, 05:51 AM
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stamkos is going to be better than tavares. makes no sense for tb to do this trade
No he isn't

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06-09-2009, 06:22 AM
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06-09-2009, 06:27 AM
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Stamkos has just as much potential as Tavares. Bob Mackenzie even said last year that he spoke to many NHL general managers and they viewed Stamkos as the better NHL prospect.

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No he isn't
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06-09-2009, 06:33 AM
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Let's bring them both to Toronto

From a Lightning perspective, I don't do this... Stamkos is more a sure thing.

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06-09-2009, 07:15 AM
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I'll go out on a limb here:

Not only will Tavares best Stamkos' rookie season (23G, 23A) ...

He will also best Stamkos offensively THIS season. (*barring injury)


If Tavares isn't better than Stamkos, I'll drink a litre of raw sewage. Mark my words.

I predict at least 70 points from Tavares.
Your post has been saved....because you are wrong on so many levels....Tavares will be lucky to hit 50 points in his rookie year.

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06-09-2009, 07:39 AM
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For teams drafting this high, they are probably lacking in quite a few areas. Do you want a kid whose touted for his all around game and leadership? Or a kid who can only score?

Unlesss you have the pieces there already, Id still pick stamkos over tavares if i was to build a team around one of them.

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06-09-2009, 07:48 AM
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you guys are all nuts 23 goals and 46 points do not a star make on a team with quite a bit of offensive talent. the Isles have far less and I'll guarantee Tavares does better as a rookie. now watch all the losers coming out making excuses for Stamkos. but I'll tell you this if he was as good as you all think you wouldnt need to make excuses now would you? how good could he be if they had Vinny and St Louis and Malone and Stamkos and just beat out the Isles who had DiPietro for all of 2 games. go ahead now go and make your excuses for Stamkos now
Just a Q, if Tavares is drafted by NYI, and only scores a measly 25g, will you be let down? Will you want to trade him to the team with the 1st overall, if it isn't NYI?

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06-09-2009, 08:03 AM
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I personally would take Tavares over Stamkos, but Stamkos seems like the safer pick right now...

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06-09-2009, 08:06 AM
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Stamkos and Tavares both have upside that are too close to compare ok ppl?

but Stamkos has produced in the NHL and already at the WHC

I take Stammy

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I loved Tavares at the WJC. I also wasn't impressed by Hedman.

However, I see trading Stamkos and a second, just as insurance for Tavares as a clear mistake in the making. If only for the fact that this is a deep draft and whoever is picked 32nd should have a good probably of being a player.

There's still definitely the possibility of the Islanders taking Hedman or even Duchense first.

It's not about getting the best players, it's about getting the right players.

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06-09-2009, 09:34 AM
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Stamkos is and will be a better player than anyone drafted this year or last year.
I agree with this.

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06-09-2009, 09:39 AM
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I guess if TB would include the rights to "Seen Stamkos?", and the website URL, it might make sense!

I just don't see why TB does this deal. There's nothing but downside when you make a deal like that IMO.

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06-09-2009, 10:08 AM
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Tavares is the better goal scorer. Stamkos is the better everything else.

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06-09-2009, 10:11 AM
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In my opinion Tampa would be crazy to trade Stamkos for Tavares/Hedman. All 3 players should turn out to be great but Stamkos has already proven that he can play in the NHL and succeed (as evidence: his play in the second half and World Championship).

Last year he was touted to be the next franchise centermen in the mold of Steve Yzerman. So why give up on him so early?

Tavares/Hedman for all their talent still haven't proven themselves at the NHL level thus there is still a risk that they could bust/dissapoint (Tavares has skating issues, Hedman perhaps may have trouble adjusting to game over here in North America).

Taking in consideration the 2nd round pick from Tampa in the original proposal, which could turn out to be a Klingberg/Erixon/Budish/Panik, the deal is heavily in favor of NYI.

Tampa would be big losers as:
Stamkos + Klingberg/Erixon/Budish/Panik > 1st overall pick (Tavares/Hedman)

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06-09-2009, 10:21 AM
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so a first overall(stamkos) and 2nd overall for a first overall when the top two in the draft is a split on whos betterr???? Isles take this and laugh to the bank

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06-09-2009, 10:22 AM
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Disagree completely. Stamkos was getting higher projections than Tavvy is getting and for good reason.
Stamkos was NOT getting higher projections than Tavares. Not sure where you guys get fed this bull (poop) but stop.

And who calls him "Tavvy"?

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06-09-2009, 10:25 AM
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Stamkos was NOT getting higher projections than Tavares. Not sure where you guys get fed this bull (poop) but stop.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=217783

lol u sad bro?

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06-09-2009, 10:47 AM
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Well this thread has backfired from the starters point of view. As a Lightning fan I wouldn't give Stamkos straight up for the pick, much less add a 2nd.
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Fair value, actually. Nice proposal.

Thing is, Stamkos has been marketed heavily in TBAY and the Isles are already hyping up JT (along with the rest of the league); ultimately, the trade fails purely from a marketing standpoint.

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06-09-2009, 10:57 AM
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...and to everyone still confused, the OP said:

2nd ROUND pick.
Not the 2nd overall.

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so a first overall(stamkos) and 2nd overall for a first overall when the top two in the draft is a split on whos betterr???? Isles take this and laugh to the bank
2nd round, not 2nd overall.

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06-09-2009, 11:07 AM
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...and to everyone still confused, the OP said:

2nd ROUND pick.
Not the 2nd overall.
Well some people can't read but either way Stamkos will be better than Tavares so Tampa having to give up ANYTHING is just silly.

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06-09-2009, 11:10 AM
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Well some people can't read but either way Stamkos will be better than Tavares so Tampa having to give up ANYTHING is just silly.
Dubey and Darth finally agree!

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