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Dany Heatley asks for trade from Senators (per EJ Hradek on NHL Live)

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06-09-2009, 12:06 PM
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Did you think Pronger asking to be traded was BS?
Well this is the perfect example, Pronger had asked for a trade and everyone knew it yet he still got 2 firsts Smid and Lupul. If Heatly did ask for a trade and we get something simular I will be happy.

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Just heard it on AM640 Toronto

They said Murray was notified today and he's mulling over possible scenarios

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Doug McLean on the Fan 590 brought up a good point about Heatley and Clouston. Clouston didn't manage Heatley the way he thought he should be playing (Re: System, ice-time, PP Units, etc.). If this rumour is in fact true, maybe McLean is on to something.

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No, they'll get a lot. He's 28, signed to a long-term contract, and he's a proven 40 (and 50) goal scorer. Even though he's rumoured to have demanded a trade, teams will be chomping at the bit to get a talented LW like Heatley.
Depends what you mean by a lot more. Teams aren't going to dismantle themselves for him.

Though, I agree he'll get more than some of the proposals in here for him.

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TSN is just reporting that ESPN reported it.

I still think the whole thing is BS. He just signed an extension LAST year.
Yeah, and so did Chris Pronger in Edmonton. Means nothing.

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Cue the "cue the Heatley to Team X rumors" posts.

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If he's traded to a Calgary or Edmonton, to be closer to home, then fine.

But if he wants out because he just wants to jump ship from a losing team, then shame on him.

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06-09-2009, 12:10 PM
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I think a lot of people are overvaluing the type of return he could get...

first of all, doesn't he have a NTC or a NMC? If not that changes things... but if he has one, and I'd assume he does, there will only be a limited number of teams that he'll waive his clause to go to... he won't be shopped on the open market, and that will effect his value.

Secondly, a $7.5mill multiyear deal isn't something that a lot of teams have room for... so not only would the team that he wants to go to need to have the necessary room to add him, they would need to move back the type of contracts to make it fit.

This would, for example, eliminate the trade proposal above by Columbus... it's already been said that they are having financial problems and Rick Nash's contract is already a big one for them to carry... how are they going to add another big money player like that?

Given his contract, and his NTC/NMC, my guess is that the return won't be some rebuilding package of picks and top prospects... there aren't many teams that can afford to take that contract without sending significant salary back... and the few teams that can, are likely all in rebuilding modes of their own, having that kind of open payroll space, and it's unlikely that Heatley is going to waive his NTC to go to such teams.

So my guess is that the return will be a lot more like the original trade that brought him to Ottawa (a 1-for-1 type deal sending a key player with a big contract the other way).... and considering his NTC, my guess is that the options will be limited.

Calgary is always in rumours when it comes to Heatley... but a trade there IMO is more likely going to be a Phaneuf/Heatley trade more so than picks and prospects or lesser contracts.... or with Edmonton for Visnovsky/Souray+ type deals - basically sending a big contract back.

With the cap uncertainty now heading into the next couple years, coupled with the lack of teams that actually have available cap space, as well as Heatley's NTC or NMC, add it all up and I don't see more than a very few options where he can be moved, and the return will likely be a big contract coming the other way.

Phaneuf for Heatley makes a lot of sense to me....

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Que the JMFJ and his 5.5 million dollar contract + for heatley talks haha.

Is it draft day yet ?

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"Hey Murph, trade for Heatley." - Getzlaf

Heatley - Getzlaf - Perry
Ryan - x/Ebbett - Selanne

*Mouth waters*
Oh yeah! Bobby Ryan + for Dany Heatley. Let's do it!

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I fully expect Murray to get ripped off if he trades Heatley.

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similiar deal to what Hossa got

since they were once traded for each other

1st round pick, very good prospect, a decent players or two

i'll use Blue Jackets (AS AN EXAMPLE)

1st
Brassard, Derick
Torres, Raffi

maybe something along these lines...teams have to pay to land a 50-50 guys
How can what Hossa got as a rental be equivalent to what Heatley could get signed to a good deal for 5 more years.

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Hossa was a soon to be UFA. Heatley is signed for FIVE more years.
That offer is also 5X more valuable than what Atlanta got for Hossa.

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Just heard it on AM640 Toronto

They said Murray was notified today and he's mulling over possible scenarios
Oh God yes. Heatley doesn't even realize how much this will help the Sens.

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There are some pretty big fish available in the trade market this off-season.

Vinny
Heatly
Briere
Marleau

And these are just widely speculated names. Who knows what sort of madness is being discussed behind closed doors.

Hold on to your cap sapce.

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Salary is 10, cap hit is 7.5.
OK, then damn. Marleau for Heatley. That would be sweet. Marleau would be great on the Sens. Heatley would be great anywhere, but I'd love to see him on the Sharks. Doug Wilson's gotta be all over this possibility...now we need to hear something about Marleua waiving his NTC...

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I fully expect Murray to get ripped off if he trades Heatley.
No chance. There will be 15 teams clamoring to try to come up with the best package.

It's very exciting from that standpoint.

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I think a lot of people are overvaluing the type of return he could get...

first of all, doesn't he have a NTC or a NMC? If not that changes things... but if he has one, and I'd assume he does, there will only be a limited number of teams that he'll waive his clause to go to... he won't be shopped on the open market, and that will effect his value.
according to nhlscap, it's a NMC

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06-09-2009, 12:13 PM
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wow, wtf???

Anyway, whats this guy's history at being a credible source??
Hradek knows his **** a majority of the time so i would say this is possible..

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OK, then damn. Marleau for Heatley. That would be sweet. Marleau would be great on the Sens. Heatley would be great anywhere, but I'd love to see him on the Sharks. Doug Wilson's gotta be all over this possibility...now we need to hear something about Marleua waiving his NTC...
No chance.

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...and Eklund will be reporting this as an e4 in...

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Phaneuf for Heatley makes a lot of sense to me....
I was thinking this, too. Then Calgary would need to move either Jokinen or Langkow to free up space for J-Bo, which becomes critical in replaceing Phaneuf. No way we lose Phaneuf without replaceing him with another top flight young anchor on D.

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Any link to this?
no link, just observation. everytime a team is mentioned to want to move someone there is a Player X to L.A and usually it is for JJ and the 5th. This scenary seems to fit perfect

Heatley to L.A- fills that LW scoring threat need
pick

for

Jack Johnson - half believe he is the next big dman, half think he and daddy are idiots
5th overall - no matter who is picked one hell of a player
Stoll/Preissing/Handzus - and the player with salary to lessen the cap hit
pick

then there are the bargining chips

Moller/Purcell/Doughty's gitch
2nd rounder - whats a trade rumer without the 2nd rounder
4th rounder - much like it higher cousin the 2nd rounder this could be the deal breaker, but of course it will be thrown out there by someone

Yes I am being half sarcastic but half serious at the same time, I give this post 1 hour before the proposals to L.A start pouring in, and the above should have covered the bases

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The sens are dealing in a position of strength. Heater just signed the deal with lots of years at top dollar. not alot of teams can afford that price. Plus i think that he also has a ntc in his contract. that means that if the sens don't have the deal that they want heater is not going anywhere.

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For fun

To Dallas:
Heatley

To Ottawa:
Richards
Neal - I hate to include him,
1st in 09 - just for **** and giggles

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