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Dany Heatley asks for trade from Senators (per EJ Hradek on NHL Live)

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06-09-2009, 01:25 PM
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JVR, Lupul, and Carle/Jones for Heatley.
I'm pretty sure this is the new Halak, Ryder and a 2nd.

Heatley for Dion is good, but how does that free up capspace for Calgary to sign Bouwmeester ?

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Marleau + Michalek for Heatley+ #3Dman/Utility player (Neil?)

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I would think that LA would be Murray's first call, but I don't think Murray wants anything to do with JJ, unless he is going to flip him right away.....wonder how much Pitt would like JJ to appease Crosby ...

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with the cap the way it is and his lack of value due to his demand for a trade, coming off a poor year, and NTC phanuef straight up for heatley would be the best possible you could get i think.

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Ottawa doesn't have to deal him right away. He is 5 years away from hitting the market and locked up, so all teams intrested in his services will have to make an offer they cant refuse. Now if he was in the final year of his deal, then that would be totaly different.

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06-09-2009, 01:26 PM
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That Richards contract though...hard for us to deal with. You'd have to take Jason Smith as well.

This is the kind of deal the Sens will be looking for. Not Lupal, not Phaneuf (well maybe actually).
I don't think anyone wants Lupal.....Lupul on the other hand.....

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And why not Theodore, Nylander, Alzner and a 1st for Heatley...

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It's a longshot to actually happen, but I can see Tambellini trying really hard to make Heatley an Oiler.

- Katz pushed hard for Hossa and desperately wants a superstar forward for this team.
- Edmonton has been trying to find a scoring LW to play with Hemsky forever. Preferably someone with size.

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06-09-2009, 01:27 PM
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so... assuming this is true, who can afford his cap hit.

We'll limit to the west, because there is no way Murray is stupid enough to trade him in-conference and the TSN article states that Heatley is believed to be looking at a Western Conference team.

Ducks: Ryan+ or Perry+
Flames: Phaneuf+ (i really hope not)
Hawks: I'd hope we ask for Keith
Avs: Duchene +
BJs: Filatov++
Stars: I dont see it, but it would have to includ #8 overall
Detroit: no way
Oil: Dont have the one key piece needed.
Kings: Have a lot of pieces, but are they willing to give up multiple good young pieces for that "next step"?
Wild: dont see it.
Nashville: salary-no
Yotes: salary-no
Sharks: no space
Blues: see LA
Canucks: Hodgson+
let's break each of those down further:

Ducks - no cap space for that kind of contract... they already have a lot tied up with Getzlaf and Perry... $7.5mill/yr will impact their team that much more... don't see Anaheim as a realistic possibility.

Flames - makes the most sense, as he would likely want to play there, so waiving his NMC isn't a factor.... the flames would have to do a lot of reshuffling - maybe sending Langkow to another team, to send Phaneuf to Ottawa and then sign JBo... but after the season they had, a reshuffling is a good bet.

Hawks - too many salary problems there... they can't afford to send a dman like Keith, on a bargain contract, to add Heatley... they just dont' have that kind of cap flexibility unless they tear apart their team, which I can't see them doing.

Avs - rebuilding team now... why would Heatley waive his NMC to go there?

Jackets - financial concerns with the franchise... affording his $7.5mill/yr cap hit is hard enough... affording to pay him $10mill next year will be impossible!

Stars - possibility as a reshuffling may happen there as well, but Richards would have to be going the other way to create the cap space, and I'm not sure that the Sens have much value for Richards at this point.

Detroit - as you said, ain't happening

Oilers - another possibility as it's a team that Heatley would waive his NMC to go to, but they would have to send one of their top 2 defenders to create the cap room to make this work.

Kings - good young team, but is this really a team that Heatley is going to waive his NMC to go to? They have yet to prove they are past their rebuilding stage.

Wild - don't see it either

Preds - again financial problems... won't happen

Coyotes - same as above, and risk of relocating, Heatley isn't going to waive his NMC here.

Sharks - good possibility, but Marleau or Thornton would be going the other way

Blues - again, not sure I see Heatley waiving his NMC to go there right now... improving team but still in transition.

Canucks - possibility, but the price would be too high, as you're not only losing Hodgson+ to get him, but also losing any chance at bringing in the Sedins back, which then changes the core and makeup of the team, and will no doubt raise question marks just how competitive they can be moving forward... would Heatley waive his NTC to go into such an uncertain situation?


I basically see only a very few teams that would have the interest in Heatley, be a team where he'd waive his NMC to go to, and have the assets needed to get a deal done...

not a lot of options really.

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No interest in Marleau from me. Heatley is on a distinct level higher than Marleau, and Marleau's contract is only for one more year. You absolutely cannot risk the major piece in the Heatley trade walking away in 1 year. Something around Vlasic/Ehroff, Clowe/Michalek/Pavelski, + would absolutely interest me though.

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You should probably start preparing yourself now for the crushing letdown when you see the package Heatley does bring in.
Ottawa fans are in for a rude surprise.

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Does Heatley have a NTC?
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So then he's obviously only willing to go a contender that can afford him AND give up enough to make the Sens FO happy. That leaves what, four or five possible destinations?


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I'd say the kings would offer something like

#5 in 2009 draft
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good prospect (and I mean like Moller, despite hating to give him up)
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And why not Theodore, Nylander, Alzner and a 1st for Heatley...
Two of those players have almost no value anymore.

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Ottawa doesn't have to deal him right away. He is 5 years away from hitting the market and locked up, so all teams intrested in his services will have to make an offer they cant refuse. Now if he was in the final year of his deal, then that would be totaly different.
True but it's a bit dumb to force a guy to play when/where he doesn't want to. Then comes the lackluster effort, floating around the ice, shots week or wide, and problems in the dressing room. They won't string it out any longer than they have to, and recovering $7.5mill/year is good incentive to take the best deal you get by training camp.

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How has this affected the auto insurance rates in Ottawa?
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Fine with me. I'd deal Heatley way before I'd deal Spezza. This team needs some change.

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How has this affected the auto insurance rates in Ottawa?


What a stupid thing to say. You look like a complete idiot now. Congrats.

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Why not? Unless the Sens are looking to blow up their roster, some mega package deal isn't likely.

You end up with a high salary start swap as the most likely scenario.

Something like Phaneuf or Marleau actually makes the most sense unless they tell Heatley to suck it up and he ain't going anywhere.

I just don't know if a SJ guy with a SJ wife is going to agree to go east.
We're going for a cheap, top 6 - like a Ryan Clowe, a good second liner - like Michalek and a high draft pick. This is serious - this is Dany Heatley. We have no choice as an org. but to get the best package out there.

And there will be a bidding war, you know there will. Do we'll get it.

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"Hey Murph, trade for Heatley." - Getzlaf

Heatley - Getzlaf - Perry
Ryan - x/Ebbett - Selanne

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Um yea... if the Ducks land Heatley they wont have Ryan anymore. That is a sure thing .

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Why not something around Lecavalier and Heatley.

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Hossa was signed and traded.
He's not talking about when he was traded to Altanta, he's talking about what Atlanta got for him from Pitsburgh at the deadline.

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I'd say the kings would offer something like

#5 in 2009 draft
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2nd or 3rd round pick
If jj does want that amount, then Ottawa would probably turn this down, if he wants less, than I'm sure Ottawa would jump all over this **** in no time.

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Ottawa fans are in for a rude surprise.
Hey man, if we don't get the offers we want, we'll keep him until someone buckles.

That's the game we're playing here. We can rejuvenate the franchise in one shot - we cannot waste it.

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let's break each of those down further:


Canucks - possibility, but the price would be too high, as you're not only losing Hodgson+ to get him, but also losing any chance at bringing in the Sedins back, which then changes the core and makeup of the team, and will no doubt raise question marks just how competitive they can be moving forward... would Heatley waive his NTC to go into such an uncertain situation?


I basically see only a very few teams that would have the interest in Heatley, be a team where he'd waive his NMC to go to, and have the assets needed to get a deal done...

not a lot of options really.
Heatley for Luongo

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