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Dany Heatley asks for trade from Senators (per EJ Hradek on NHL Live)

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06-09-2009, 12:39 PM
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Ottawa fans... would your rather have...


Phaneuf

or

Souray/Visnovsky and Cogliano.
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06-09-2009, 12:40 PM
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The poster who suggested Minny actually made a pretty good call. They've got a guy who was part of the management group who traded for him in Pitsburgh as their new GM, they could be losing Gaborik which leaves a gaping hole at wing on their top line, and they've got the cap room to bring him in.

The only questions become 1) Do they have the pieces to trade for Healtey? and 2) Would Heatley waive his NTC to go there? I don't see why not, personally.

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lol...

Heatley + Spezza

for

Lecavalier + St Louis

...major blockbuster, and pretty fair value since Lecavalier is the best player by a fair margin. (Spezza and Heatley combined are about as tough as the tiny St Louis)

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Ottawa fans... would your rather have...


Phaneuf

or

Souray/Visnovsky and Cogliano.
you dont need to be an Ottawa fan to see the better value ...Phaneuf alone would still be the better deal than Souray AND Visnovsky AND Cogliano (salary cap hits or not)

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06-09-2009, 12:41 PM
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lol...

Heatley + Spezza

for

Lecavalier + St Louis

...major blockbuster, and pretty fair value since Lecavalier is the best player by a fair margin. (Spezza and Heatley combined are about as tough as the tiny St Louis)
heatley is at leat = to vinny if not better and is on a way better contract. i dont see this as why would heatley leave OTT for TB a bad franchise to the worst cept the isles

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06-09-2009, 12:42 PM
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The trade proposal was actually JJ, 5th overall & Stoll, so that's a darn nice package IMO. Only problem is that Stoll/Handzus are too similiar to Fischer IMO.
We would need one of the young bucks on D (not JJ), a killer young winger (not Stoll) and the 1st rounder to start.

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06-09-2009, 12:42 PM
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The poster who suggested Minny actually made a pretty good call. They've got a guy who was part of the management group who traded for him in Pitsburgh as their new GM, they could be losing Gaborik which leaves a gaping hole at wing on their top line, and they've got the cap room to bring him in.

The only questions become 1) Do they have the pieces to trade for Healtey? and 2) Would Heatley waive his NTC to go there? I don't see why not, personally.
Something around Burns for Heatley might work for both teams.

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I will tell you now Sen fans don't get your hopes to high on what you will get in return. I know I did when Pronger asked to be traded and that deal has sucked for the Oilers so far.

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Do you even know anything about Heatley ?
I know he asked to be traded from Atlanta because of the Snyder situation which is understandable. Now 1 year into his contract, he asks for yet another trade? It sounds like he's not happy anywhere he plays but maybe there are locker room issues with the Sens.

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or

Neither
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Something around Burns for Heatley might work for both teams.
Ahhh, now we're getting somewhere.

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We would need one of the young bucks on D (not JJ), a killer young winger (not Stoll) and the 1st rounder to start.
There was a deal proposed, the 5th overall, jj, Moller and a 2nd, or 3rd round pick for Heatley. Even if you're not a fan of jj, it's a good deal and you could possibly turn and flip him to someone else.

Or ask for Hickey/Teubert/Voinov/ which ever other young promising defenseman they have ?

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06-09-2009, 12:44 PM
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Marleau for Heatley straight up? Similar salaries, would be good for both teams.

I think Hradek also said he thinks he would probably want to go to the western conference, but that was just speculation.
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Sorry, but there's not one player the Sens take straight up from SJ for Heatley. Marleau would be our 2nd line center.

Honestly, what makes most sense to me is a trade with L.A involving a top prospect and top 6 forward. Murray wouldn't trade him for a 1st as the centerpeice, and I doubt he'll do a star for star trade.

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I know Heatley is better than Hossa but if I was a GM wouldn't be better to go for Hossa than Heatley since he won't cost any assets?

It's true they can't be sure they will get Hossa after bidding war and Hossa might want a longer deal but doesn't have to give up many players/picks/prospects

For this reason I think Heatley's value would be highest few days after July 1st.

By than most top free agents would be gone and teams who missed out on them will fight for Heatley

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06-09-2009, 12:45 PM
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I agree though that IF (and that's still a big if) he's traded, it'll be to Alberta. If I'm the Oilers, I offer O'Sullivan, Cogliano/Gagner, Gilbert/Visnovsky/Souray and two 1sts.
No offense - but I think you're on crack. Potentially 3 good young contributing roster players (Gagner, POS, Gilbert) & 2 1st? For a team that has made the P/O's once over the last 5 years, and has a ton of holes on their roster (1st line center, goaltending, defensive d-men, etc).

I could see a Souray, Cogliano/POS, 1st round DP offer being in the ballpark.

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We would need one of the young bucks on D (not JJ), a killer young winger (not Stoll) and the 1st rounder to start.
So which young buck besides JJ, who isnt asking for 5.5M? Doughty isnt going to happen. So youre looking at Hickey, Teubert or Voynov.

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and cue Heatley to Calgary rumors... since they have been rampant in the past... does Heatley have a NTC or NMC?
Calgary would have to trade the whole team to bring him in so they aren't over the cap. And doesn't everyone on the flames have NTC such as Langkow, Iginla, Regehr and Phaneuf where do they get the cap room from.

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06-09-2009, 12:46 PM
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as a calgary fan id propose:
langkow
sarich
boyd
1st
(for)
Healtey

(OR)
phanuef
primeau
(for)
heatley

(OR)
phanuef
1st
langkow
sarich
(for)
heatley
spezza

but these wont happen i see him going to LA for

heatley
(for)
Doughty
JJ
5th overall
stoll(return salary)



and the falmes trades i made are jsut jokes so if i see an oilers trade sending
f'in nillson or schremp ill flip
nobody wants your failed players

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Calgary would have to trade the whole team to bring him in so they aren't over the cap. And doesn't everyone on the flames have NTC such as Langkow, Iginla, Regehr and Phaneuf where do they get the cap room from.
Phaneuf is too young to have a NTC and as far as I know Langkow doesn't either

and if the Flames could move Langkow & Vandermeer they free up 6.8 million

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I know he asked to be traded from Atlanta because of the Snyder situation which is understandable. Now 1 year into his contract, he asks for yet another trade? It sounds like he's not happy anywhere he plays but maybe there are locker room issues with the Sens.
He asked to be traded from Atlanta because of the 'Thrashers' situation. (Franchise going nowhere and nobody cares). Snyd's was a tragic situation obviously, but Heater still keeps in touch with his family. He was not running from that.

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as a calgary fan id propose:
langkow
sarich
boyd
1st
(for)
Healtey

(OR)
phanuef
primeau
(for)
heatley

(OR)
phanuef
1st
langkow
sarich
(for)
heatley
spezza

but these wont happen i see him going to LA for

heatley
(for)
Doughty
JJ
5th overall
stoll(return salary)



and the falmes trades i made are jsut jokes so if i see an oilers trade sending
f'in nillson or schremp ill flip
nobody wants your failed players
Nilson and Schremp for Heatley straight up.

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06-09-2009, 12:48 PM
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Calgary would have to trade the whole team to bring him in so they aren't over the cap. And doesn't everyone on the flames have NTC such as Langkow, Iginla, Regehr and Phaneuf where do they get the cap room from.
if phaneuf is involved in the trade, then the flames wouldnt have to shed to much salary (or any at all) to get heatley to fit.

phaneuf does not have an ntc.

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Isn't this the second time Heater has asked for a trade? Now it was understandable the first time, but this does raise some questions. Did they say why Heatley wants a trade?

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